# Henry Louis Gates target of death threats, might have to move

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/henry-louis-gates-target-of-death-threats-might-have-to-move/505381>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 5, 2009, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/henry-louis-gates-target-of-death-threats-might-have-to-move/505381 "2009-08-05T02:26:12Z")\
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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2009, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/henry-louis-gates-target-of-death-threats-might-have-to-move/505381/1 "2009-08-05T02:26:12Z")

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He’s already had to change his e-mail address and phone number. Story [here.](http://news.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view/20090803henry_louis_gates_jr_mulls_moving_over_death_threats_calls_crowley_a_nice_guy/srvc=home&position=0)

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**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2009, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/henry-louis-gates-target-of-death-threats-might-have-to-move/505381/2 "2009-08-05T02:41:32Z")

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“Crowley is morally responsible” for this in 3 … 2 … 1 …

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**Author:** ![emcee2k](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7bcc69/32.png) [@emcee2k](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emcee2k)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2009, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/henry-louis-gates-target-of-death-threats-might-have-to-move/505381/3 "2009-08-05T02:51:11Z")

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Crowley is morally responsible for this.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2009, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/henry-louis-gates-target-of-death-threats-might-have-to-move/505381/4 "2009-08-05T02:51:37Z")

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(never mind)

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2009, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/henry-louis-gates-target-of-death-threats-might-have-to-move/505381/5 "2009-08-05T02:55:36Z")

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How would it make sense for him to move? He’s in a university owned home and they can provide security for him there better than they could in most neighborhoods. (We know how quickly the police get there when called.)

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2009, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/henry-louis-gates-target-of-death-threats-might-have-to-move/505381/6 "2009-08-05T02:57:57Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> (never mind)

See! That’s what you get for arguing with me in another thread! You lost your chance in this thread.

I’m mildy surprised that **Rand Rover** is expanding his interest from economics. Not so surprised, given so, in his stance.

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**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2009, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/henry-louis-gates-target-of-death-threats-might-have-to-move/505381/7 "2009-08-05T03:06:55Z")

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> [@Frank](#):
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> Not so surprised, given so, in his stance.

And what is my “stance,” pray tell?

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2009, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/henry-louis-gates-target-of-death-threats-might-have-to-move/505381/8 "2009-08-05T03:11:41Z")

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> [@Rand\_Rover](#):
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> And what is my “stance,” pray tell?

:rolleyes: That you expect the liberals of the SDMB to blame Sgt. Crowley for being morally responsible for the threats to Gates.

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**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2009, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/henry-louis-gates-target-of-death-threats-might-have-to-move/505381/9 "2009-08-05T03:16:00Z")

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Ah, OK then.

Just so no one’s confused, I think the whole concept of whether one person is “morally responsible” for the actions of another is completely devoid of any meaning (because absolutely nothing depends on the conclusion).

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2009, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/henry-louis-gates-target-of-death-threats-might-have-to-move/505381/10 "2009-08-05T03:39:11Z")

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> [@Rand\_Rover](#):
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> And what is my “stance,” pray tell?

Wide?

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2009, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/henry-louis-gates-target-of-death-threats-might-have-to-move/505381/11 "2009-08-05T03:44:04Z")

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Shame on you, **BG**! What a mean, cruel suggestion for someone of tender sensibilities like **RR**. I’m certainly glad I didn’t say that!

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2009, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/henry-louis-gates-target-of-death-threats-might-have-to-move/505381/12 "2009-08-05T05:04:36Z")

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> [@Rand\_Rover](#):
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> Just so no one’s confused, I think the whole concept of whether one person is “morally responsible” for the actions of another is completely devoid of any meaning (because absolutely nothing depends on the conclusion).

Would you deny that slaveowners are morally responsible for the bloodshed of slave rebellions? I don’t think any true Libertarian/Objectivist could honestly deny that.

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**Author:** ![Mosier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@Mosier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mosier)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2009, 7:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/henry-louis-gates-target-of-death-threats-might-have-to-move/505381/13 "2009-08-05T07:47:01Z")

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> [@Rand\_Rover](#):
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> Ah, OK then.
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> Just so no one’s confused, I think the whole concept of whether one person is “morally responsible” for the actions of another is completely devoid of any meaning (because absolutely nothing depends on the conclusion).

What do they call it when someone invents a position their opponents do not hold, and then argues against that invented position?

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**Author:** ![Shagnasty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2009, 7:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/henry-louis-gates-target-of-death-threats-might-have-to-move/505381/14 "2009-08-05T07:57:57Z")

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I like this line from Gates in the article cited in the OP: "

When he’s not arresting you, Sgt. Crowley is a nice guy.”

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**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2009, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/henry-louis-gates-target-of-death-threats-might-have-to-move/505381/15 "2009-08-05T12:12:19Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> Would you deny that slaveowners are morally responsible for the bloodshed of slave rebellions? I don’t think any true Libertarian/Objectivist could honestly deny that.

Would you deny that the smimka is the greatest woogie in all of blargledom?

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2009, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/henry-louis-gates-target-of-death-threats-might-have-to-move/505381/16 "2009-08-05T12:18:27Z")

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The koopleburp is a greater woogie than the smimka. _Everyone_ knows that.

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**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2009, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/henry-louis-gates-target-of-death-threats-might-have-to-move/505381/17 "2009-08-05T12:27:05Z")

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:eek: Prepare for combat, good sir!

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2009, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/henry-louis-gates-target-of-death-threats-might-have-to-move/505381/18 "2009-08-05T13:24:28Z")

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Woogies at dawn!

Seriously, from reading the article it sounds like Gates and Crowley have amicably sorted out their little misunderstanding following the “beer summit”, and it’s random loons harrassing Gates because they saw something on television about the incident.

If I were inclined to hold a third party “morally responsible” it’d be folks like Glenn Beck who has been playing up the “Obama hates all white people” rhetoric of late, but I’m not. Really the only ones to blame are the idiots making the threats.

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**Author:** ![Cliffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@Cliffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cliffy)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2009, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/henry-louis-gates-target-of-death-threats-might-have-to-move/505381/19 "2009-08-05T13:35:38Z")

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Man, it’s great to live in post-racial America, huh?

–Cliffy

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2009, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/henry-louis-gates-target-of-death-threats-might-have-to-move/505381/20 "2009-08-05T15:05:20Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Shame on you, **BG**! What a mean, cruel suggestion for someone of tender sensibilities like **RR**. I’m certainly glad I didn’t say that!

- runs quote through Truthiness Translator[sup]TM[/sup] \*

“Damn you for beating me to it!”

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