# Henry Louis Gates target of death threats, might have to move **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 5, 2009, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/henry-louis-gates-target-of-death-threats-might-have-to-move/505381 "2009-08-05T02:26:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2009, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/henry-louis-gates-target-of-death-threats-might-have-to-move/505381/21 "2009-08-05T15:08:04Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Would you deny that the smimka is the greatest woogie in all of blargledom? As I’ve pointed out to you repeatedly, your lack of comprehension of objective morality is entirely a personal failing on your part. If you understood it and disagreed with it, that’d be a respectable position. But your denial of its coherency just points to what’s wrong with you. It’s like someone who mocks free market capitalism by repeating phrases from Adam Smith with nonsense words substituted for “market” or “financial.” It’s just self-aggrandizing stupidity. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2009, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/henry-louis-gates-target-of-death-threats-might-have-to-move/505381/22 "2009-08-05T15:19:41Z")
Huh? I understand it and think it’s meaningless. So there. ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2009, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/henry-louis-gates-target-of-death-threats-might-have-to-move/505381/23 "2009-08-05T15:52:00Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > “Crowley is morally responsible” for this in 3 … 2 … 1 … Alistair Crowley is morally responsible. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2009, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/henry-louis-gates-target-of-death-threats-might-have-to-move/505381/24 "2009-08-05T16:01:10Z")
> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#): > > Alistair Crowley is morally responsible. Well, _was_. Unless you know something about Crowley that I don’t. And, to be serious for a moment, Alistair Crowley probably WAS more morally responsible than the average 21st Century American…he was completely aware of the im/morality involved in the things he did and _accepted that_ instead of blaming the moral consequences of those actions on somebody else. ---
**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2009, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/henry-louis-gates-target-of-death-threats-might-have-to-move/505381/25 "2009-08-05T16:03:00Z")
> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#): > > Alistair Crowley is morally responsible. What the hell did you mean by that?! Was that polemically sent? Don’t chicken out and not return to this thread. I want to know what you meant. I want to know… I want to know what you meant! Yeah! ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2009, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/henry-louis-gates-target-of-death-threats-might-have-to-move/505381/26 "2009-08-05T16:16:56Z")
Alistair Crowley was to posuers what Tyrannosaurus was to dinosaurs. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2009, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/henry-louis-gates-target-of-death-threats-might-have-to-move/505381/27 "2009-08-05T16:26:36Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > Well, _was_. Unless you know something about Crowley that I don’t. > > And, to be serious for a moment, Alistair Crowley probably WAS more morally responsible than the average 21st Century American…he was completely aware of the im/morality involved in the things he did and _accepted that_ instead of blaming the moral consequences of those actions on somebody else. If you’re at all interested in [Aleister Crowley,](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleister_Crowley) check [this](http://books.google.com/books?id=v5_WwEz19qwC&pg=PA103&lpg=PA103&dq=aleister+crowley+avram+davidson&source=bl&ots=lL-aKoBksf&sig=Ond4u-vqapoGD-9U4JjWV-ts8f0&hl=en&ei=RLJ5Sp3pFYaCtgewuN2WCQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1#v=onepage&q=&f=false) out (starting at p. 103). Avram Davidson’s prose, it has been said, begs to be read aloud. ---
**Author:** ![Cliffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@Cliffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cliffy)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2009, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/henry-louis-gates-target-of-death-threats-might-have-to-move/505381/28 "2009-08-05T17:15:00Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Huh? I understand it and think it’s meaningless. So there. No you don’t. You either don’t understand the sentence – and you’re therefore either a non-English speaker or an imbicile – or you have an opinion. It is clear that you do have an opinion, and that it is of the most selfish, self-aggrandizing, solipistic sort. Which you attempt to disguise by spewing nonsense. But we ain’t buying. –Cliffy ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2009, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/henry-louis-gates-target-of-death-threats-might-have-to-move/505381/29 "2009-08-05T17:17:01Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > If you’re at all interested in [Aleister Crowley,](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleister_Crowley) check [this](http://books.google.com/books?id=v5_WwEz19qwC&pg=PA103&lpg=PA103&dq=aleister+crowley+avram+davidson&source=bl&ots=lL-aKoBksf&sig=Ond4u-vqapoGD-9U4JjWV-ts8f0&hl=en&ei=RLJ5Sp3pFYaCtgewuN2WCQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1#v=onepage&q=&f=false) out (starting at p. 103). Avram Davidson’s prose, it has been said, begs to be read aloud. Oh, great, like I really needed to go buy four more books at BetterWorldBooks. ---
**Author:** ![buttonjockey308](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bcef8e/32.png) [@buttonjockey308](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buttonjockey308)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2009, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/henry-louis-gates-target-of-death-threats-might-have-to-move/505381/30 "2009-08-05T17:44:58Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Really the only ones to blame are the idiots making the threats. Yep. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2009, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/henry-louis-gates-target-of-death-threats-might-have-to-move/505381/31 "2009-08-05T18:14:14Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Huh? I understand it and think it’s meaningless. So there. Huh? I frimkle it and think it’s babnogular. So there. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2009, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/henry-louis-gates-target-of-death-threats-might-have-to-move/505381/32 "2009-08-05T18:43:09Z")
> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#): > > Oh, great, like I really needed to go buy four more books at BetterWorldBooks. You don’t have to, you can click the link and read it online. ---
**Author:** ![Ichini\_Sanshigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/d9b06d/32.png) [@Ichini\_Sanshigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ichini_Sanshigo)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2009, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/henry-louis-gates-target-of-death-threats-might-have-to-move/505381/33 "2009-08-05T19:09:25Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > If you’re at all interested in [Aleister Crowley,](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleister_Crowley) check [this](http://books.google.com/books?id=v5_WwEz19qwC&pg=PA103&lpg=PA103&dq=aleister+crowley+avram+davidson&source=bl&ots=lL-aKoBksf&sig=Ond4u-vqapoGD-9U4JjWV-ts8f0&hl=en&ei=RLJ5Sp3pFYaCtgewuN2WCQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1#v=onepage&q=&f=false) out (starting at p. 103). Avram Davidson’s prose, it has been said, begs to be read aloud. Hey, that guy totally ripped off _Fight Club_! ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2009, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/henry-louis-gates-target-of-death-threats-might-have-to-move/505381/34 "2009-08-05T19:15:41Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Huh? I understand it and think it’s meaningless. So there. You might possibly argue against the importance or relevance of the question, but asking whether slaveowners share moral responsibility for the bloodshed of slave rebellions is not meaningless. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2009, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/henry-louis-gates-target-of-death-threats-might-have-to-move/505381/35 "2009-08-05T19:16:04Z")
Must be a major disappointment for our repubs. The libs just don’t jump on stupid little bandwagons of blame. Of course it is Palins fault with Cheney pulling the strings. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2009, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/henry-louis-gates-target-of-death-threats-might-have-to-move/505381/36 "2009-08-05T19:34:29Z")
> [@Cliffy](#): > > Man, it’s great to live in post-racial America, huh? > > –Cliffy It was once. Rent got too high, so I moved to Post Apocalypse. Kind of a fixer-upper, but it’s fun shooting feral children from my balcony with my makeshift crossbow. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2009, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/henry-louis-gates-target-of-death-threats-might-have-to-move/505381/37 "2009-08-05T19:49:44Z")
Heavens! Have you some sort of quarrel with them? ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2009, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/henry-louis-gates-target-of-death-threats-might-have-to-move/505381/38 "2009-08-05T19:54:47Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Heavens! Have you some sort of quarrel with them? Puns like that, he’s gonna turn the crossbow on you next. Better bolt. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2009, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/henry-louis-gates-target-of-death-threats-might-have-to-move/505381/39 "2009-08-05T19:55:44Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > You might possibly argue against the importance or relevance of the question, but asking whether slaveowners share moral responsibility for the bloodshed of slave rebellions is not meaningless. Ok, bub. Let’s suppose the answer is yes–they are morally responsible. What are the consequences? And how are those consequences materially different than if we supposed the answer was no? ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2009, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/henry-louis-gates-target-of-death-threats-might-have-to-move/505381/40 "2009-08-05T19:59:08Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > You don’t have to, you can click the link and read it online. I read about four pages of it and knew I had to own the book. I went to BetterWorldBooks and searched on “Avram Davidson” and found a whole boatload of books by him. I bought four. And it’s all your fault. 😛 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/henry-louis-gates-target-of-death-threats-might-have-to-move/505381.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/henry-louis-gates-target-of-death-threats-might-have-to-move/505381.md?page=3)