# Her Daddy & Boyfriend act out ancient ritual. Black eyes result. Newslink

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [May 12, 2008, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/her-daddy-boyfriend-act-out-ancient-ritual-black-eyes-result-newslink/449103 "2008-05-12T23:17:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2008, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/her-daddy-boyfriend-act-out-ancient-ritual-black-eyes-result-newslink/449103/1 "2008-05-12T23:17:42Z")

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He crawled through his Sweetheart’s bedroom window.  
His Sweetheart wasn’t home.  
Her Daddy was.  
Wackiness ensues.  
[http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/Quirks/2008/05/12/romantic\_teen\_runs\_afoul\_of\_girls\_dad/3277/](http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/Quirks/2008/05/12/romantic_teen_runs_afoul_of_girls_dad/3277/)

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> SYCAMORE TOWNSHIP, Ohio, May 12 (UPI) – Court records showed that an Ohio teenager apparently wasn’t aware his girlfriend wasn’t home when he slipped into her bedroom and ran into her father.
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> The youth, Jesse Laboiteaux, 18, wound up with two black eyes and faced assault and burglary charges in what started out as a romantic rendezvous with his 15-year-old girlfriend.

Ah! Young love! And hilarious, clichéd paternal violence. How oft-times they do go together. 😃

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**Author:** ![corkboard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@corkboard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/corkboard)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/her-daddy-boyfriend-act-out-ancient-ritual-black-eyes-result-newslink/449103/2 "2008-05-13T12:16:02Z")

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He was 18? And she was 15? He deserves the black eyes, and then some.

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**Author:** ![WF\_Tomba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/d9b06d/32.png) [@WF\_Tomba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WF_Tomba)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/her-daddy-boyfriend-act-out-ancient-ritual-black-eyes-result-newslink/449103/3 "2008-05-13T12:21:18Z")

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_Behind the door  
her daddy keeps a shotgun.  
He keeps it in the wintertime,  
and in the month of May,  
and if you ask him  
“Why the ammunition?”  
he’ll say it’s for a cowboy  
who’s gone fur, fur away!_

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/her-daddy-boyfriend-act-out-ancient-ritual-black-eyes-result-newslink/449103/4 "2008-05-13T12:28:43Z")

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[QUOTE=corkboard]  
He was 18? And she was 15? He deserves the black eyes, and then some.  
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Right, 'cos there are no girls ever that knocked around willingly with 18-year-old boys - they were all coerced, and they were all damaged.

:rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/her-daddy-boyfriend-act-out-ancient-ritual-black-eyes-result-newslink/449103/5 "2008-05-13T12:39:58Z")

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[QUOTE=Malacandra]  
Right, 'cos there are no girls ever that knocked around willingly with 18-year-old boys - they were all coerced, and they were all damaged.

:rolleyes:  
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By the act of quoting your post **Malacandra** , I reiterate your point! 😃 Or, in other words, ditto etc.

Eighteen and fifteen aren’t all that much removed, either chronologically or emotionally really. Daddy giving the boy a punchout just sucks and I hope the kid sues him for all the dosh he’s got. Damn, I’d HATE to be a teenager nowadays!

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/her-daddy-boyfriend-act-out-ancient-ritual-black-eyes-result-newslink/449103/6 "2008-05-13T12:49:06Z")

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Well, in the eyes of the law, he _was_ breaking and entering, or some such, so it’s hard to see how he could sue. After all, nobody invited him in. It isn’t clear from the little blurb whether Dad even knew who he was punching out until afterwards.

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**Author:** ![Jimson\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/838e76/32.png) [@Jimson\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimson_Jim)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/her-daddy-boyfriend-act-out-ancient-ritual-black-eyes-result-newslink/449103/7 "2008-05-13T13:16:50Z")

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[QUOTE=kambuckta]  
By the act of quoting your post **Malacandra** , I reiterate your point! 😃 Or, in other words, ditto etc.

Eighteen and fifteen aren’t all that much removed, either chronologically or emotionally really. Daddy giving the boy a punchout just sucks and I hope the kid sues him for all the dosh he’s got. Damn, I’d HATE to be a teenager nowadays!  
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You’d hate to be a teenager today. I’m worried about being a parent these days. You seriously believe it’s OK for someone to break into a home to “visit” a 15 year old girl? I have to say I’d be a bit miffed by any one breaking into my home. And unlike my neighbor in the story I don’t respond to suspicious noises empty handed.

I think you’re wrong about the proximity of age. 3 years in high school is a lot of development both emotionally and physically. I wouldn’t allow my 15 year old daughter to date an 18 year old guy. In fact the young lady here is below the age of consent. And since the “boyfriend” is 18 dad could have charged him with statuary rape had he caught them in the same room together under these circumstances.

And just as an observation, what kind of “boy friend” doesn’t know when his girl friend is going to be spending the night at someone else’s home? Between cell phones and email these two should have known exactly where each other was.

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**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/her-daddy-boyfriend-act-out-ancient-ritual-black-eyes-result-newslink/449103/8 "2008-05-13T13:21:59Z")

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One of the things about this board that never fails to warm my heart is how assiduously and consistently the rights of teenage boys to fuck anything that won’t put up a fight are defended, even to the point that breaking and entering in the service of same is deemed defensible.

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/her-daddy-boyfriend-act-out-ancient-ritual-black-eyes-result-newslink/449103/9 "2008-05-13T13:38:03Z")

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[QUOTE=storyteller0910]  
One of the things about this board that never fails to warm my heart is how assiduously and consistently the rights of teenage boys to fuck anything that won’t put up a fight are defended, even to the point that breaking and entering in the service of same is deemed defensible.  
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Where did anyone actually defend the breaking and entering?

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/her-daddy-boyfriend-act-out-ancient-ritual-black-eyes-result-newslink/449103/10 "2008-05-13T13:44:36Z")

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Not enough info to form an opinion on this.

Did the boy ever meet the father before this? If so, did they get along? Did the father approve of the relationship?

How long have they been dating? Was the relationship consentual, or was it a case of (as many Dopers will no doubt assume) consistant child rape?

Was the boy asked to leave first, or did the dad just come out swinging?

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**Author:** ![DCTrekkie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dctrekkie/32/18862_2.png) [@DCTrekkie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCTrekkie)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/her-daddy-boyfriend-act-out-ancient-ritual-black-eyes-result-newslink/449103/11 "2008-05-13T13:57:20Z")

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[QUOTE=Jimson Jim]  
In fact the young lady here is below the age of consent. And since the “boyfriend” is 18 dad could have charged him with statuary rape had he caught them in the same room together under these circumstances.  
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Just for being in the same room together? :dubious:

Also it seems like he only snuck in through her window, expecting her to be there waiting for him. Whilst that may legally count as “breaking and entering” it’s not really the same thing. Of course the father presumably didn’t know this so he was justified in attacking him.

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**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/her-daddy-boyfriend-act-out-ancient-ritual-black-eyes-result-newslink/449103/12 "2008-05-13T13:57:27Z")

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[QUOTE=Mangetout]  
Where did anyone actually defend the breaking and entering?  
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Well,

[QUOTE=kambuckta]

Daddy giving the boy a punchout just sucks and I hope the kid sues him for all the dosh he’s got.

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But you know what? I’m not getting any more involved in this conversation than that. People get way more passionate about this subject than about, say, politics or religion, and this isn’t a hill on which I wish to fight.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/her-daddy-boyfriend-act-out-ancient-ritual-black-eyes-result-newslink/449103/13 "2008-05-13T14:01:47Z")

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[QUOTE=storyteller0910]  
One of the things about this board that never fails to warm my heart is how assiduously and consistently the rights of teenage boys to fuck anything that won’t put up a fight are defended, even to the point that breaking and entering in the service of same is deemed defensible.  
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Almost as heartwarming as the knee-jerk reaction of people who assume that teenagers _must_ be fucking. And the ridiculous rigid ethical code of people who think “slipping in through a bedroom window to see his girlfriend” = “breaking and entering”. Were you on set picketing freaking _Dawson’s Creek_?

Oh, and let’s not forget that a high school senior dating a high school sophomore = an evil evil rapist who ought to be locked up.

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/her-daddy-boyfriend-act-out-ancient-ritual-black-eyes-result-newslink/449103/14 "2008-05-13T14:06:40Z")

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OK, completely missed that, but one sentence in the whole thread so far is hardly enough to qualify your original statement about the whole board, consistency and assidiousness, etc. Maybe some other folks will come along and render the accusation true, but at the moment, it looks a bit too broad a brush.

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**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/her-daddy-boyfriend-act-out-ancient-ritual-black-eyes-result-newslink/449103/15 "2008-05-13T14:13:23Z")

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[QUOTE=Really Not All That Bright]

And the ridiculous rigid ethical code of people who think “slipping in through a bedroom window to see his girlfriend” = “breaking and entering”. Were you on set picketing freaking _Dawson’s Creek_?

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This has nothing to do with an “ethical” code. It has to do with common sense. You don’t go into someone’s house, at any time of day or night but especially not after dark, without being _damn_ sure you’re expected. I had a teenage sister once. I knew her boyfriends vaguely, of course. But if she was out at a friend’s house and I heard a sound in her room and stepped in to see someone _climbing in the freaking window_, it would have scared the holy living _shit_ out of me. My possible reactions to such an event might vary from running to punching to throwing a lamp, depending on the circumstances.

It’s really pretty simple: don’t go into people’s houses when they don’t know you’re coming. If you’re not _sure_ they know you’re coming, err on the side of caution. If you choose to ignore this advice - however noble your motives - be aware and accepting of the fact that a punch in the face is a possible outcome of your decision, when faced with frightened homeowners who may not even know your identity, let alone your motives.

Kid wasn’t evil or unethical. He was fucking stupid.

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> Oh, and let’s not forget that a high school senior dating a high school sophomore = an evil evil rapist who ought to be locked up.

Damn, somebody said that in this thread? Well, whoever said that, that guy’s an idiot. Who was it, again? I missed it.

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**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/her-daddy-boyfriend-act-out-ancient-ritual-black-eyes-result-newslink/449103/16 "2008-05-13T14:14:52Z")

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[QUOTE=Mangetout]  
OK, completely missed that, but one sentence in the whole thread so far is hardly enough to qualify your original statement about the whole board, consistency and assidiousness, etc. Maybe some other folks will come along and render the accusation true, but at the moment, it looks a bit too broad a brush.  
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Fair enough.

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/her-daddy-boyfriend-act-out-ancient-ritual-black-eyes-result-newslink/449103/17 "2008-05-13T14:15:39Z")

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/her-daddy-boyfriend-act-out-ancient-ritual-black-eyes-result-newslink/449103/18 "2008-05-13T14:21:29Z")

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[QUOTE=storyteller0910]  
It’s really pretty simple: don’t go into people’s houses when they don’t know you’re coming. If you’re not _sure_ they know you’re coming, err on the side of caution. If you choose to ignore this advice - however noble your motives - be aware and accepting of the fact that a punch in the face is a possible outcome of your decision, when faced with frightened homeowners who may not even know your identity, let alone your motives.

Kid wasn’t evil or unethical. He was fucking stupid.  
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Agreed. This is the sort of action that, if it was in a movie, would be really romantic. In real life, it’s pretty moronic.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/her-daddy-boyfriend-act-out-ancient-ritual-black-eyes-result-newslink/449103/19 "2008-05-13T14:29:14Z")

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[QUOTE=storyteller0910]  
Damn, somebody said that in this thread? Well, whoever said that, that guy’s an idiot. Who was it, again? I missed it.  
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Did you know that the entry for “hyperbole” in the dictionary is 5 pages long?

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**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/her-daddy-boyfriend-act-out-ancient-ritual-black-eyes-result-newslink/449103/20 "2008-05-13T14:29:53Z")

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[QUOTE=Ludovic]  
Did you know that the entry for “hyperbole” in the dictionary is 5 pages long?  
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…and yet oddly, nowhere is it synonymous with “misrepresentation.”

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