# Here a Starbuck's, there a Starbuck's, EVERYWHERE a freakin' Starbuck's!

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**Created:** [October 7, 2002, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-a-starbucks-there-a-starbucks-everywhere-a-freakin-starbucks/131252 "2002-10-07T19:51:38Z")\
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**Author:** ![LolaCocaCola](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7cd45c/32.png) [@LolaCocaCola](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LolaCocaCola)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2002, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-a-starbucks-there-a-starbucks-everywhere-a-freakin-starbucks/131252/1 "2002-10-07T19:51:38Z")

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Especially in Manhattan!

Did you knooooooooooow that there are 131 Starbuck’s in Manhattan with 68 of those within 2 blocks of each other? (According to my trusty Village Voice)

And for you out-of-town folk, Manhattan is a mere 2 miles wide and 12 miles long!  
IS IT ANY WONDER I AM ON A MAJOR CAFFEINE BUZZZZZZZ?!?

:eek:

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**Author:** ![Simetra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Simetra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simetra)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2002, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-a-starbucks-there-a-starbucks-everywhere-a-freakin-starbucks/131252/2 "2002-10-07T19:53:54Z")

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Starbucks has Tazo tea.

That’s all I had to say, 'cause I really really like Tazo tea.

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**Author:** ![Maeglin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@Maeglin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maeglin)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2002, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-a-starbucks-there-a-starbucks-everywhere-a-freakin-starbucks/131252/3 "2002-10-07T20:01:00Z")

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And there’s at least one bodega on every block and street vendors in midtown that sell coffee at 1/3 the price of a Starbucks. Coffee of comparable quality.

So maybe you’re on a major caffeine buzz because you like getting ripped off?

🙂

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**Author:** ![Bomzaway](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e480ec/32.png) [@Bomzaway](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bomzaway)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2002, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-a-starbucks-there-a-starbucks-everywhere-a-freakin-starbucks/131252/4 "2002-10-07T20:17:07Z")

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I read somewhere that Starbucks has this notion that it’s better to have more of their own stores competing with each other in an area than to have other coffee shops moving in on their territory. Makes some sense really, but I wonder what the long term backlash might be from everyone being sick of seeing a Starbucks on every corner.

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**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2002, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-a-starbucks-there-a-starbucks-everywhere-a-freakin-starbucks/131252/5 "2002-10-07T20:25:50Z")

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“Starbucks to right of me,  
Starbucks to left of me,  
Starbucks in front of me!”  
I holler’d and thunder’d;  
“Latte with sauce carmel,  
Decaf with Turkish smell  
Overpriced swill they sell—”  
Cannot avoid those stores!  
Each time I go outdoors—  
There must be six hundred.

I know what you mean . . . they just opened another Starbucks a block diagonal from my office; we now have one on every corner.

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**Author:** ![LolaCocaCola](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7cd45c/32.png) [@LolaCocaCola](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LolaCocaCola)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2002, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-a-starbucks-there-a-starbucks-everywhere-a-freakin-starbucks/131252/6 "2002-10-07T20:35:59Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Maeglin \*  
> **And there’s at least one bodega on every block and street vendors in midtown that sell coffee at 1/3 the price of a Starbucks. Coffee of comparable quality.**

But I can’t get a half-caf, skinny Mocha Grande at the bodega. ☹

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**Author:** ![Tripler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripler/32/21807_2.png) [@Tripler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tripler)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2002, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-a-starbucks-there-a-starbucks-everywhere-a-freakin-starbucks/131252/7 "2002-10-07T20:49:58Z")

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Ain’t no Starbucks in North Dakota. . .

Tripler  
Thank God. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![ThatGuyWithPants](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/df788c/32.png) [@ThatGuyWithPants](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThatGuyWithPants)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2002, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-a-starbucks-there-a-starbucks-everywhere-a-freakin-starbucks/131252/8 "2002-10-07T20:52:13Z")

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Call me a republican, but wassnt Starbucks once a small community coffee shop at one point in time? It wouldnt have grown if they diddnt have good coffee and good service in the first place…so I personally cant blame Starbucks for being as popular as they are now. We have a local coffee shop called the Mean Bean that isnt 5 minutes from my house…but if I’m in the mood for some caffene, I opt to travel 20 minutes to the nearest Starbucks…come to think of it, the mall where I go get it at has…4 of them within a 1 mile radius! Ha! But anyways, back to the point. the Mean Bean has the worst coffee known to the human world…they use the same beans for EVERYTHING. Maybe you’ve heard of the bean before…the _Columbia Crappetta_

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**Author:** ![ResIpsaLoquitor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b3f665/32.png) [@ResIpsaLoquitor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ResIpsaLoquitor)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2002, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-a-starbucks-there-a-starbucks-everywhere-a-freakin-starbucks/131252/9 "2002-10-07T21:05:33Z")

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[Simpsons]

Better make your posts quick, kiddo. In five minutes, this place is becoming a Starbucks.

[/Simpsons]

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**Author:** ![Slainte](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a698b9/32.png) [@Slainte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slainte)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2002, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-a-starbucks-there-a-starbucks-everywhere-a-freakin-starbucks/131252/10 "2002-10-07T21:33:57Z")

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> \*Originally posted by ThatGuyWithPants \*  
> **It wouldnt have grown if they didn’t have good coffee and good service in the first place…**

Not necessarily - look at McDonalds.

Starbucks coffee itself is over-roasted IMO and I’d take a small, local coffeehouse over it any day of the week. YMMV

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**Author:** ![Athena](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/35a633/32.png) [@Athena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Athena)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2002, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-a-starbucks-there-a-starbucks-everywhere-a-freakin-starbucks/131252/11 "2002-10-07T22:15:55Z")

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I just went to the Starbucks Web site and did a search on the nearest Starbucks to me. Luckily, it found nothing.

Let me repeat that.

There are no Starbucks close enough to where I live for Starbucks to bother telling me about them.

Envy me.

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**Author:** ![Serendipity](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f17d59/32.png) [@Serendipity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Serendipity)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2002, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-a-starbucks-there-a-starbucks-everywhere-a-freakin-starbucks/131252/12 "2002-10-07T22:45:41Z")

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I only frequent Starbucks when I’m at a mall/airport/whatever that doesn’t have a local coffeehouse around and to get the above-mentioned Tazo tea (yum!) there(the only other place I’ve found that brand is at Putnam Market in Saratoga Springs, and they only sell sampler packs). Unfortunately, Starbucks pretty much has a monopoly on coffee here at school, so it’s unavoidable at times.

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**Author:** ![MikeG](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikeg/32/4329_2.png) [@MikeG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MikeG)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2002, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-a-starbucks-there-a-starbucks-everywhere-a-freakin-starbucks/131252/13 "2002-10-07T22:47:02Z")

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Damn, the Onion has gotten rid of its archived article “New Starbucks to open up in bathrooom of existing Starbucks.”!

Hilarious, the SB near my house had it up in their bathroom for months:)

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**Author:** ![White\_Lightning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@White\_Lightning](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/White_Lightning)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2002, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-a-starbucks-there-a-starbucks-everywhere-a-freakin-starbucks/131252/14 "2002-10-07T23:04:03Z")

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They recently remodeled the Plaza (outdoor supermarket + shops style affair) in the town where I live, and added some new shops (Pier 1, Bed Bath and Beyond, etc.), including, of course, a Starbucks.

There’s also a full-service Starbucks in the Barnes and Noble bookstore in the same Plaza.

There’s also a full-service Starbucks in the Albertson’s (supermarket) in the same Plaza.

Three stores. And we’re not talking square blocks, square miles here. We’re talking about three stores in one shopping center. Boggles my mind.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2002, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-a-starbucks-there-a-starbucks-everywhere-a-freakin-starbucks/131252/15 "2002-10-07T23:16:52Z")

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Reminds me of the Simpsons episode where Bart goes to the mall to get his ear pierced and outside of the piercing place, all the other stores are Starbucks.

I personally don’t like Starbucks. Their hot chocolate is weak, and frappucinos taste like cold coffee.

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**Author:** ![FisherQueen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/58f4c7/32.png) [@FisherQueen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FisherQueen)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2002, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-a-starbucks-there-a-starbucks-everywhere-a-freakin-starbucks/131252/16 "2002-10-08T00:11:50Z")

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In Columbus, Ohio, there’s a lovely neighborhood called German Village.

In German Village, there was a small ice-cream shop that made the best ice cream this side of Graeter’s.

Now, there’s a Starbucks.

May it burn down.

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**Author:** ![Some\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@Some\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Some_Guy)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2002, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-a-starbucks-there-a-starbucks-everywhere-a-freakin-starbucks/131252/17 "2002-10-08T00:24:25Z")

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Heh. Not too far from my house, there’s a Starbuck’s directly across the street from another Starbuck’s. I guess they figure they’d lose money if people had to use the crosswalk.

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**Author:** ![Myrr21](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Myrr21](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Myrr21)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2002, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-a-starbucks-there-a-starbucks-everywhere-a-freakin-starbucks/131252/18 "2002-10-08T01:14:21Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Bomzaway \*  
> \*\*I read somewhere that Starbucks has this notion that it’s better to have more of their own stores competing with each other in an area than to have other coffee shops moving in on their territory. Makes some sense really, but I wonder what the long term backlash might be from everyone being sick of seeing a Starbucks on every corner. \*\*

Well, heard an interview with a spokesman or something; he basically said that they found that a new Starbucks would suck business away from the old one at first, but that after a while the sales in the old one would return.

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**Author:** ![WSLer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a6a055/32.png) [@WSLer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WSLer)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2002, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-a-starbucks-there-a-starbucks-everywhere-a-freakin-starbucks/131252/19 "2002-10-08T01:58:15Z")

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Lewis Black did a screamingly funny rant on **Starbucks** about 6 months ago. The clip used to be up on the Comedy Central website, but curses!!! it’s been replaced.

Ah well, trust me, it was a good one.

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**Author:** ![LolaCocaCola](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7cd45c/32.png) [@LolaCocaCola](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LolaCocaCola)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2002, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-a-starbucks-there-a-starbucks-everywhere-a-freakin-starbucks/131252/20 "2002-10-08T02:15:16Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by WSLer \*  
> \*\*Lewis Black did a screamingly funny rant on **Starbucks** about 6 months ago. The clip used to be up on the Comedy Central website, but curses!!! it’s been replaced.
> 
> Ah well, trust me, it was a good one. \*\*

Funny you should mention that ~ the one and only taping of the Daily Show I went to, Lewis Black was there saying that very rant! It was funny as hell! 😃 - Tenacious D was also a guest that day.

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