# Here are the defenses offered (so far) for Trump's “Grab them by the pussy" comment **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 9, 2016, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-are-the-defenses-offered-so-far-for-trumps-grab-them-by-the-pussy-comment/768029 "2016-10-09T03:55:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-are-the-defenses-offered-so-far-for-trumps-grab-them-by-the-pussy-comment/768029/121 "2016-10-10T05:01:42Z")
> [@Amateur\_Barbarian](#): > > You know, this whole comment comes off like junior high bathroom smut by little boys who have never been within grabbing range of the real thing. Since you metaphorically “grab” guys by their dong or balls, but can’t actually “grab” a woman by her snatch, it has that aura of not really knowing what he’s talking about. > > Yeah, yeah, he meant cop a submarine feel. But it still sounds like a 13yo speaking from badass-y ignorance. Aren’t there quite a few women who have come forward to say that Trump has done to them exactly as he boasted? ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-are-the-defenses-offered-so-far-for-trumps-grab-them-by-the-pussy-comment/768029/122 "2016-10-10T05:10:57Z")
> [@Amateur\_Barbarian](#): > > You know, this whole comment comes off like junior high bathroom smut by little boys who have never been within grabbing range of the real thing. Since you metaphorically “grab” guys by their dong or balls, but can’t actually “grab” a woman by her snatch, it has that aura of not really knowing what he’s talking about. > > Yeah, yeah, he meant cop a submarine feel. But it still sounds like a 13yo speaking from badass-y ignorance. Yes, thank you. I wish people spent more time on how juvenile he sounded. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 11:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-are-the-defenses-offered-so-far-for-trumps-grab-them-by-the-pussy-comment/768029/123 "2016-10-10T11:18:28Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > I did. Clinton had to pay $850k to Paula Jones for her case against him. > > Juanita Broaddrick: > > For sure, let’s not forget Monica and her cum-stained dress. > > And I have yet to hear a liberal say anything against Clinton for all this. But every time I turn around, it seems like he’s talking to a crowd of you and you’re cheering your asses off for him. Clinton was accused of rape and sexual assault. If he did it, that is a terrible, terrible thing. Ken Starr investigated these claims and did not find sufficient evidence for criminal proceedings. Clinton chose to settle the lawsuit by Jones without admission of guilt. Monica Lewinsky never accused Clinton of rape or sexual assault or any other crime. Trump has been accused of rape and sexual assault. If he did it, that is a terrible, terrible thing. **Trump has personally bragged about sexually assaulting women, and this bragging is on video.** That is something that Clinton has not done. But thank you for trying to have an actual discussion. Hopefully we can continue. ---
**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-are-the-defenses-offered-so-far-for-trumps-grab-them-by-the-pussy-comment/768029/124 "2016-10-10T12:12:45Z")
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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-are-the-defenses-offered-so-far-for-trumps-grab-them-by-the-pussy-comment/768029/125 "2016-10-10T12:38:08Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > My first act after I build my time machine is to travel to 1996 and not vote for Bill Clinton. > > Wait a tic, I _didn’t_ vote for him in 1996. Ha! Obviously this is evidence I will invent time travel in the future! Quick get me the Powerball numbers for this week! > [@Clothahump](#): > > If you weren’t a mod, I’d put your dumb ass on ignore. > > I was correct in what I said. You need proof: Bill Clinton. Rapist and Philander-in-Chief. But you libs think the sun shines out of his ass. His actions were a helluva lot worse than what Trump said. Let’s use Bryan’s time machine and go back and see what someone said about the women who accused [Bill Clinton](http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/flashback-donald-trump-called-bill-clintons-accusers-terrible/story?id=42686582). Guess who it was. \It was Donald Trump \ ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-are-the-defenses-offered-so-far-for-trumps-grab-them-by-the-pussy-comment/768029/126 "2016-10-10T15:37:02Z")
Has anyone tried the euphemism tack? Trump is nothing if not a loutish braggart, “grab her by the pussy”, could be argued to mean ‘take charge, woman love that’. “We really have them by the balls”, usually does not mean you are actually touching anyone’s testicles. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-are-the-defenses-offered-so-far-for-trumps-grab-them-by-the-pussy-comment/768029/127 "2016-10-10T15:43:06Z")
> [@Sitnam](#): > > Has anyone tried the euphemism tack? Trump is nothing if not a loutish braggart, “grab her by the pussy”, could be argued to mean ‘take charge, woman love that’. > > “We really have them by the balls”, usually does not mean you are actually touching anyone’s testicles. I honestly can’t tell if you’re joking or not, but ‘we really have them by the balls’ is totally different than a woman suggesting to another woman that she go up and ‘just grab his junk, there’s no way he’ll say no to that’. Besides, ‘we’ve got them by the balls’ is a well known saying, ‘grab her by the pussy’ isn’t, was directed at someone and people have complained that he did just that. So, I’m pretty sure the euphemism thing doesn’t work. ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-are-the-defenses-offered-so-far-for-trumps-grab-them-by-the-pussy-comment/768029/128 "2016-10-10T15:50:39Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > I honestly can’t tell if you’re joking or not, but ‘we really have them by the balls’ is totally different than a woman suggesting to another woman that she go up and ‘just grab his junk, there’s no way he’ll say no to that’. > > Besides, ‘we’ve got them by the balls’ is a well known saying, ‘grab her by the pussy’ isn’t, was directed at someone and people have complained that he did just that. So, I’m pretty sure the euphemism thing doesn’t work. I wasn’t joking, and I agree he’s a prick. Even if it was something a pimple faced teenager would say in a locker room the man was 60 when he said it. The OP was asking for defenses Trump supporters were offering to excuse his assholery. Hence my question. ---
**Author:** ![Leo\_Krupe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ebca7d/32.png) [@Leo\_Krupe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leo_Krupe)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-are-the-defenses-offered-so-far-for-trumps-grab-them-by-the-pussy-comment/768029/129 "2016-10-10T15:57:11Z")
> [@Sitnam](#): > > **Has anyone tried the euphemism tack?** Trump is nothing if not a loutish braggart, “grab her by the pussy”, could be argued to mean ‘take charge, woman love that’. > > “We really have them by the balls”, usually does not mean you are actually touching anyone’s testicles. Yes. It doesn’t work with Trump. What did he mean then when he told his crowd to punch someone in the face? Or EXTREEEM vetting? Or the dozen or so other outrageous things he’s said? ---
**Author:** ![Randolph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Randolph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Randolph)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-are-the-defenses-offered-so-far-for-trumps-grab-them-by-the-pussy-comment/768029/130 "2016-10-10T16:31:25Z")
It’s just euphemisms plus extreme visualization. What is reality, anyway? ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-are-the-defenses-offered-so-far-for-trumps-grab-them-by-the-pussy-comment/768029/131 "2016-10-10T16:34:39Z")
His actions were definitely assholish and dickish. He really can be a jerk. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-are-the-defenses-offered-so-far-for-trumps-grab-them-by-the-pussy-comment/768029/132 "2016-10-10T16:53:49Z")
> [@Bullitt](#): > > His actions were definitely assholish and dickish. He really can be a jerk. But is he the jerk president America _needs_, or the jerk president America _deserves_ ? ---
**Author:** ![Nawth\_Chucka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c57346/32.png) [@Nawth\_Chucka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nawth_Chucka)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2016, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-are-the-defenses-offered-so-far-for-trumps-grab-them-by-the-pussy-comment/768029/133 "2016-10-11T03:25:15Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > Thank fuck you weren’t a woman in yours. One of the best things I’ve read all day. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2016, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-are-the-defenses-offered-so-far-for-trumps-grab-them-by-the-pussy-comment/768029/134 "2016-10-11T04:57:49Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > If a Democrat says it, they get a pass. But if a Republican says it, they are immediately branded as spawn of Satan. > [@Clothahump](#): > > If you weren’t a mod, I’d put your dumb ass on ignore. > > I was correct in what I said. You need proof: Bill Clinton. Rapist and Philander-in-Chief. But you libs think the sun shines out of his ass. His actions were a helluva lot worse than what Trump said. What I was referring to, you pathetic fuckwit, was your first remark. Examples were given of Democrats being called to account for sexist behavior and you ignored them. But you are so blinded by partisanship that you can’t even keep the conversation straight. I can’t put you on ignore either, but I wouldn’t do so if I could. You provide too much hilarity. I’ve never known a poster so utterly inept at supporting his own arguments. You embarrass yourself with every post you make. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2016, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-are-the-defenses-offered-so-far-for-trumps-grab-them-by-the-pussy-comment/768029/135 "2016-10-11T15:58:16Z")
From Bret Stephens’ column today: \*"“Congrats to my running mate @realDonaldTrump on a big debate win!” tweeted Mike Pence as soon as it ended. “Proud to stand with you as we #MAGA.” That’s “Make America Great Again,” though at this stage in the campaign it could equally mean “Mount Another Genital Assault."\* 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2016, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-are-the-defenses-offered-so-far-for-trumps-grab-them-by-the-pussy-comment/768029/136 "2016-10-11T16:03:29Z")
In the grand scheme of major issues facing our country, Trump’s assinine comments ranks very very low. ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2016, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-are-the-defenses-offered-so-far-for-trumps-grab-them-by-the-pussy-comment/768029/137 "2016-10-11T16:47:03Z")
> [@Bullitt](#): > > In the grand scheme of major issues facing our country, Trump’s assinine comments ranks very very low. If he were not the nominee of one of the major parties I would agree with you. However, his asinine comments reveal a lot about the character of the man and that is a major issue facing our country. ---
**Author:** ![Nawth\_Chucka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c57346/32.png) [@Nawth\_Chucka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nawth_Chucka)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2016, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-are-the-defenses-offered-so-far-for-trumps-grab-them-by-the-pussy-comment/768029/138 "2016-10-11T18:45:03Z")
> [@Bullitt](#): > > In the grand scheme of major issues facing our country, Trump’s assinine comments ranks very very low. In the realm of things that affect roughly 50% of the population preventing sexual assault as a way of increasing our quality of life is a high priority. People dismissing its importance are a large part of the problem. ---
**Author:** ![Go\_Arachnid\_Laser\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b2d939/32.png) [@Go\_Arachnid\_Laser\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Go_Arachnid_Laser_1)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2016, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-are-the-defenses-offered-so-far-for-trumps-grab-them-by-the-pussy-comment/768029/139 "2016-10-11T19:23:38Z")
> [@aldiboronti](#): > > So if a woman lets you screw her it’s rape? Your stance would put most of the male population in prison. Can I show you a scene from It’s Always Sunny? It’s really funny- [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/-yUafzOXHPE/hqdefault.jpg "It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia - The "Implication"") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yUafzOXHPE) I think that it kinda illustrates the whole grey area thing. ---
**Author:** ![Nars\_Glinley](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nars_glinley/32/8177_2.png) [@Nars\_Glinley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nars_Glinley)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2016, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-are-the-defenses-offered-so-far-for-trumps-grab-them-by-the-pussy-comment/768029/140 "2016-10-11T22:03:47Z")
> [@Sitnam](#): > > Has anyone tried the euphemism tack? Trump is nothing if not a loutish braggart, “grab her by the pussy”, could be argued to mean ‘take charge, woman love that’. > > “We really have them by the balls”, usually does not mean you are actually touching anyone’s testicles. I honestly believe that Trump’s “grab her by the pussy” comment was simple (and incredibly inappropriate) hyperbole. He didn’t say that he had done it, just that he could have because he was a star. Given his braggadocio, I think that if he had acted like that, he would have said so. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-are-the-defenses-offered-so-far-for-trumps-grab-them-by-the-pussy-comment/768029.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-are-the-defenses-offered-so-far-for-trumps-grab-them-by-the-pussy-comment/768029.md?page=8)