# Here I am, minty green. Something you want to say? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 9, 2002, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400 "2002-12-09T01:04:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Koxinga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/4af34b/32.png) [@Koxinga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Koxinga)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2002, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/1 "2002-12-09T01:04:58Z")
I don’t think I was out of line [in this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?postid=2688403#post2688403) but apparently you think I was. So, what would you like to say? ---
**Author:** ![minty\_green](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f6c823/32.png) [@minty\_green](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/minty_green)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2002, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/2 "2002-12-09T01:42:01Z")
Yeah. Don’t accuse me of wishing for the death of U.S. servicemen or the failure of their missions, asshat. ---
**Author:** ![Eternal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ecb155/32.png) [@Eternal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eternal)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2002, 7:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/3 "2002-12-09T07:33:45Z")
Yeah, and don’t you dare accuse ME of that either, turdburglar. ---
**Author:** ![Koxinga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/4af34b/32.png) [@Koxinga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Koxinga)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2002, 8:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/4 "2002-12-09T08:04:57Z")
Here’s what I said in the above-linked thread, and I stand by it: > [@](#): > > ## (posted by minty green: ) > > ## It wouldn’t have taken all that many at Tora Bora, probably just a couple thousand. Bush the Dumber, in his infinite wisdom, sent a mere handful of Special Forces guys to call in airstrikes and observe while our Afghan proxies let the really bad guys go. Ever heard of the fallacy of the excluded middle? That’s a pretty good example of it. We did about right when it came to routing the Taliban army by providing specific assistance to the Afghan opposition. At the same time, we did far too little when we had al Qaeda forces surrounded. These are hardly mutually exclusive concepts, you know. > > So it was a mixed result and could have been executed better–a theme that I’m sure will be discussed in military colleges in years to come. What I don’t see is any support for the adjectives:[ul] > > [li]disasterous[/li] > [li]colossal blunder[/li] > [li]an object of “regret for years to come” . . .[/li] > [li]. . . committed by a “bunch of goddamned fools”[/ul][/li] > Since no such disaster occurred, yet you keep pounding this imaginary point in order to attack Bush the Younger/Bush the Dumber (kind of tired invective at this point), I don’t think it’s so outrageous for me to interpret this as wishful thinking. **No, you didn’t advocate that US servicemen be killed, and I didn’t necessarily accuse you of that either.** But I do observe that you are unwilling to admit that Afghanistan was not the cataclysmic indictment of Bush that you pretend it is. I notice that aside from getting all huffy about my supposed smear against him, **minty green** has yet to rebut any of the points I’ve raised. > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Eternal \* > \*\*Yeah, and don’t you dare accuse ME of that either, turdburglar. \*\* Who the hell are you? If you want to join us in Great Debates, feel free. Otherwise, your “me too” is kind of lame, pal. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.A.Nemo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/94ad74/32.png) [@Mr.A.Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.A.Nemo)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2002, 9:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/5 "2002-12-09T09:00:05Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Eternal \* > Yeah, and don’t you dare accuse ME of that either, **turdburglar**. Bolding mine. That is a repugnant anti-gay slur. Its use as invective demonstrates what a bigoted subhuman you are. ---
**Author:** ![Mac\_Guffin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/2bfe46/32.png) [@Mac\_Guffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mac_Guffin)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2002, 9:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/6 "2002-12-09T09:08:07Z")
Turdburglar is an anti-gay slur? I just imagined it being a Copraphiliac version of the Hamburglar. huh. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2002, 9:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/7 "2002-12-09T09:12:06Z")
Using an adolescent slur without thinking of the ramifications makes someone subhuman??? ---
**Author:** ![RexDart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@RexDart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RexDart)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2002, 9:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/8 "2002-12-09T09:21:08Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by spooje \* > \*\*Using an adolescent slur without thinking of the ramifications makes someone subhuman??? \*\* I always knew those punk teens on [battle.net](http://battle.net) weren’t human! Ha! Who “0wnz j00” now? Not so l337 after all, huh? ---
**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2002, 10:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/9 "2002-12-09T10:27:55Z")
> [@](#): > > That is a repugnant anti-gay slur. Actually, it is a reference to kleptofecalmania. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.A.Nemo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/94ad74/32.png) [@Mr.A.Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.A.Nemo)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2002, 10:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/10 "2002-12-09T10:43:59Z")
I’m so glad you can make light out of such hatred. Its used in the same fashion as _fudgepacker_, _shitstabber_, _stoolpusher_, _fartknocker_, _bonesmuggler_. Which are all extremely offensive and derogatory remarks aimed at homosexuals. _Nigger_ and _fag_ are also **adolescent slurs** so that makes them acceptable in your mind? ---
**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2002, 11:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/11 "2002-12-09T11:19:43Z")
> [@](#): > > I’m so glad you can make light out of such hatred. And I’m glad you can make stupid out of such triviality. Or are homosexuals the only people who can steal feces? ---
**Author:** ![Desmostylus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c57346/32.png) [@Desmostylus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Desmostylus)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2002, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/12 "2002-12-09T12:22:11Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Mr. A. Nemo \* > \*\*I’m so glad you can make light out of such hatred. > > Its used in the same fashion as _fudgepacker_, _shitstabber_, _stoolpusher_, _fartknocker_, _bonesmuggler_. Which are all extremely offensive and derogatory remarks aimed at homosexuals. _Nigger_ and _fag_ are also **adolescent slurs** so that makes them acceptable in your mind? \*\* Please establish that **Eternal** is in fact an adult of your obvious knowledge and understanding, as so therefore should know better than to brandish such slurs in the pit. ---
**Author:** ![sailor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a587f6/32.png) [@sailor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sailor)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2002, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/13 "2002-12-09T12:29:50Z")
I would like to roint out that “disasterous” is not a word. Maybe you mean “disastrous”. Carry on. ---
**Author:** ![sailor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a587f6/32.png) [@sailor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sailor)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2002, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/14 "2002-12-09T12:33:32Z")
“roint” is not a word either. “point” is a word. ---
**Author:** ![Desmostylus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c57346/32.png) [@Desmostylus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Desmostylus)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2002, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/15 "2002-12-09T12:49:50Z")
**sailor:** “point” is a word. However, I believe that “roint” is also a word. It’s a schoolboy taunt meaning “your mother is being probed by aliens”. How dare you. You should be ashamed.🙂 ---
**Author:** ![istara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e79b87/32.png) [@istara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/istara)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2002, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/16 "2002-12-09T12:53:43Z")
I am thinking it would be easiest if all members on these boards were given a special icon by their name: **H** = homophobic **G** = gay or gay friendly **U** = uncertain/undetermined That way someone’s post could be compared to their sexual-orientation-tolerance/support status, to find out if the person was being sarcastic/funny/offensive/self-deprecatory, and a lot of misunderstandings and misplaced offence could be avoided. And likewise half of the threads in the Pit in recent weeks. I hope to think I am a **G** - gay friendly. Now we just need a judging committee to determined the sexual-orientation-tolerance/support status of every poster. Nominations welcome. ---
**Author:** ![Desmostylus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c57346/32.png) [@Desmostylus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Desmostylus)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2002, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/17 "2002-12-09T13:05:45Z")
Admirable sentiment, **istara**. Trouble is, when someone prefaces a statement with: “I don’t hate gays”, or “I dont hate [some religious group]” The next word is usually “but”. It’s the same as if someone prefaces a statement with: “I’m not a lunatic” It goes on from there how they’ve discovered perpetual motion, etc. ---
**Author:** ![Astroboy14](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/df705f/32.png) [@Astroboy14](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astroboy14)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2002, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/18 "2002-12-09T13:14:34Z")
C’mon, now! You guys are hijacking a fight! _Jer-RY! Jer-RY! Jer-RY!!_ ---
**Author:** ![istara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e79b87/32.png) [@istara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/istara)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2002, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/19 "2002-12-09T13:21:02Z")
Ah, **Desmotylus** - the beauty of this system would be that people don’t choose their own grading, it gets awarded by a special committee. So everyone starts with a **U** , and only gets the Glorious Golden **G** once they’ve proved their gay or gay-friendly status. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2002, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/20 "2002-12-09T13:23:34Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Mr. A. Nemo \* > \*\*Bolding mine. > That is a repugnant anti-gay slur. Its use as invective demonstrates what a bigoted subhuman you are. \*\* “Subhuman” is a term used by Nazis and white supremacist. It is a repugnant slur. Using it as invective just goes to show what an asshole you are. Fenris Who now expects Mr. Hypersensitivity to proclaim that “asshole” is an anti-rectal slur and call in the ADL (anti defecation league) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400.md?page=2)