# Here I am, minty green. Something you want to say? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 9, 2002, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400 "2002-12-09T01:04:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Diane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2acd7d/32.png) [@Diane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diane)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2002, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/181 "2002-12-10T14:11:44Z")
> [@](#): > > All I see here is a bunch of rationalizing and arguing of semantics. Which further proves you are living in La La Land. We aren’t rationalizing or arguing semantics, we are just poking sticks at two shit slinging monkeys. (uh oh :eek:) ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2002, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/182 "2002-12-10T14:15:58Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Mr. A. Nemo \* > **All I see here is a bunch of rationalizing and arguing of semantics.** So after all this about how you’re such a delicate butterfly with such sensitive skin that even a wisp of gossamer might abrade it…after all that, you’re only _now_ getting around to telling us that you’re anti-semantic? Fenris ---
**Author:** ![Rodd\_Hill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/3ab097/32.png) [@Rodd\_Hill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rodd_Hill)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2002, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/183 "2002-12-10T14:32:06Z")
> [@](#): > > That’s all I’m going to say on the matter. I have better things to do than waste time arguing with a few morons who won’t admit there might be something they actually didn’t know. I leave you to your schoolyard antics. “Poo to you with knobs on–no takebacks!” ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2002, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/184 "2002-12-10T14:43:41Z")
This given anyone else the image of a penis with a miner’s hat? ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2002, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/185 "2002-12-10T14:49:30Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by lieu \* > \*\*This given anyone else the image of a penis with a miner’s hat? \*\* That sure would be pretty handy here in this cave! ---
**Author:** ![Diane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2acd7d/32.png) [@Diane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diane)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2002, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/186 "2002-12-10T14:52:33Z")
> [@](#): > > This given anyone else the image of a penis with a miner’s hat? > > That sure would be pretty handy here in this cave! Big vagina bigots. ---
**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2002, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/187 "2002-12-10T15:07:49Z")
This thread is destined to go down in the anals of Straight Dope history. ---
**Author:** ![Demise](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/34f0e0/32.png) [@Demise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Demise)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2002, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/188 "2002-12-10T15:09:15Z")
This must be a new sport, right? We’ll call it…X-treme Sensitivty! Hey, maybe **Nemo** and **blowero** can get sponsers. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Ace\_of\_Swords](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e495f1/32.png) [@The\_Ace\_of\_Swords](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Ace_of_Swords)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2002, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/189 "2002-12-10T15:12:08Z")
If I could kick the serious notch up one level (to 2) here, I do think that communication requires intent and commonly understood meaning. If I say “go fish,” and I _mean_ jump in a lake – and reasonable people understand the meaning, communication is there. Doesn’t mean a couple of hypersensitive people get to define my meaning, and I think that’s the problem here. Who gets to define what I mean by an insult? I do, and reasonable people get to confirm it. If 90% of folks think turdburglar is not even really insulting, than it’s not. The remaining 10% shouldn’t need to “sensitize” us to how it really is a horrible insult, they need to desensitize themselves to match the majority of reasonable folks. Otherwise we’re allowing 10% of folks to retroactively define our communication’s content. ---
**Author:** ![SuaSponte](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/67e7ee/32.png) [@SuaSponte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuaSponte)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2002, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/190 "2002-12-10T15:17:38Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by blowero \* > \*\*Ya know, Sua - I usually find your posts to be intelligent and informative, but this is way below your usual standards. You basically found virtually the exact same joke on 4 different web sites. Since you seem to have difficulty using a search engine effectively, here are some examples of “turd-burglar” being used as an anti-gay epithet: Ahem. I don’t know how to use a search engine? I typed in “turdburglar” and the above is what appeared on the first page (in google world, the most commonly linked sites). I established that turdburglar has a non-homophobic usage. Good for me. You have established that it also has a homophobic usage. Good for you. Now, **blowero,** when a word has two meanings, one offensive and one not, how does one decide what meaning the word has in a specific context? By determining the _intent_ of the speaker? If I were on the street and I heard a guy say ‘come and meet my bitch,’ I’d be offended - until I realized the guy was talking about his female dog. Why do you think that one meaning of the word “turdburglar” crowds out all other meanings? Sua ---
**Author:** ![bdgr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a87d85/32.png) [@bdgr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bdgr)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2002, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/191 "2002-12-10T15:23:57Z")
I suppose that this isnt really eligible for threadspotting ---
**Author:** ![Koxinga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/4af34b/32.png) [@Koxinga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Koxinga)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2002, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/192 "2002-12-10T15:25:06Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by The Ace of Swords \* > \*\*If I could kick the serious notch up one level (to 2) here, I do think that communication requires intent and commonly understood meaning. If I say “go fish,” and I _mean_ jump in a lake – and reasonable people understand the meaning, communication is there. Doesn’t mean a couple of hypersensitive people get to define my meaning, and I think that’s the problem here. Who gets to define what I mean by an insult? I do, and reasonable people get to confirm it. Not quite sure what you mean here. Are you thinking of something like the _real_ meaning of Nixon’s “Law and Order” campaign slogan supposedly being “put the black people back in their place”? (Or the later Willie Horton campaign issue?) ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2002, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/193 "2002-12-10T15:29:06Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by bdgr \* > \*\*I suppose that this isnt really eligible for threadspotting \*\* Now you’re being anti-menstruation. ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2002, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/194 "2002-12-10T15:58:10Z")
Dang, another Red scare. ---
**Author:** ![Maeglin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@Maeglin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maeglin)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2002, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/195 "2002-12-10T16:02:57Z")
I rather enjoyed the Crimson Tide. ---
**Author:** ![ptr2void](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ptr2void/32/3406_2.png) [@ptr2void](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ptr2void)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2002, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/196 "2002-12-10T16:17:01Z")
Aren’t we padding the post count here? ---
**Author:** ![dalovindj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/65b543/32.png) [@dalovindj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalovindj)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2002, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/197 "2002-12-10T16:17:25Z")
What’s black and white and red all over? ---
**Author:** ![roadrunner70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e19b73/32.png) [@roadrunner70](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/roadrunner70)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2002, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/198 "2002-12-10T16:25:41Z")
Pravda? [sub]oh great…now I’ve pissed off the commie turdburglers[/sub] ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2002, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/199 "2002-12-10T16:35:18Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by dalovindj \* > \*\*What’s black and white and red all over? \*\* I’m pretty sure there’s a really offensive Michael Jackson joke in here somewhere, but I’ll leave that alone. ---
**Author:** ![Raymond\_Luxury\_Yacht](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raymond_luxury_yacht/32/4099_2.png) [@Raymond\_Luxury\_Yacht](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raymond_Luxury_Yacht)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2002, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/200 "2002-12-10T16:46:06Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by SPOOFE \* > \*\*Is it a racial slur when, say, Chris Rock says it? > \*\* [hijack]Slippery slope there SPOOFE. Is it a slur or is it empowering to the speaker of the word if they belong to the group which is offended by its usage?[/hijack] [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400.md?page=11)