# Here I am, minty green. Something you want to say? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 9, 2002, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400 "2002-12-09T01:04:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![owlstretchingtime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/958977/32.png) [@owlstretchingtime](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/owlstretchingtime)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2002, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/201 "2002-12-10T16:52:09Z")
You may be interested to know that Robert Plant is a Turd Burglar (although is world famous for not being an uphill gardener) THis from [http://www.led-zeppelin.org/reference/int22.html](http://www.led-zeppelin.org/reference/int22.html) He used to play with a band called Melvyn Giganticus and the Turd Burglars. ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2002, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/202 "2002-12-10T16:57:05Z")
_Waaaaaay down inside…_ ---
**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2002, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/203 "2002-12-10T17:08:59Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Fenris \* > \*\*Homophobe. > > Hate speecher. > > Bigot. > > You’re goin’ to hell. > > Fenris \*\* Holy shit! You said Fenris! Do you have any idea how insulting that is to the gay people of Finland? [sub]it’s true. I saw it used once on IRC. People were crying for days. [/sub] ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2002, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/204 "2002-12-10T17:09:38Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by The Ace of Swords \* > \*\*If 90% of folks think turdburglar is not even really insulting, than it’s not. The remaining 10% shouldn’t need to “sensitize” us to how it really is a horrible insult, they need to desensitize themselves to match the majority of reasonable folks. Otherwise we’re allowing 10% of folks to retroactively define our communication’s content. \*\* Good God, **Ace** : this is _another_ post of yours that I agree with. Is this the apocalypse or what? Seriously: well said! Fenris ---
**Author:** ![dalovindj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/65b543/32.png) [@dalovindj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalovindj)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2002, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/205 "2002-12-10T17:10:05Z")
Now I see why all of you [hang out in caves](http://www.mns.org.my/selangor/cavegroup/blastingbc.php) so much. This may be one shady lot, which MUST be watched. Fortunately there are groups dedicated to fighting you sick & evil fucks: > [@](#): > > The society has, over the years, reported acts of vandalism on cave artifacts; then in May this year, it detected a large-scale attempt to steal guano. If the attempt had been successful, it would have spelt disaster as the removal of guano will upset the ecological balance of the caves – it is a source of food for cave-dwelling insects. Looks like batshit turdburglars are a real problem here people. I’m starting to suspect that **blowero** and **Mr. Nemo** are just trying to throw us off the trail of a major heist they are setting up. Not on my watch you silly rabbits. . . “Why do I have to be Mr. Brown? Can’t I be Mr. Pink?” “No, some other turdburgler on some other job is Mr. Pink. You’re Mr. Brown.” DaLovin’ Dj ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2002, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/206 "2002-12-10T17:24:31Z")
Buttmunch. Dillhole Fartknocker Choadsmoker Dillweed Bunghole Bungwipe Ehehehe… “What’s a bunghole?” “You’re a bunghole, Bunghole!” ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2002, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/207 "2002-12-10T17:25:42Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by **spooje** _ > > Just because you personally take it as a slur does not make it a slur exclusively. If we all agreed that it was a slur, maybe things would be different. But clearly, we do not agree. Well, just to play devil’s advocate, there’s some contention over whether using “gay” to mean “sub par” or “uncool” or “stupid” is justifiable or not, but many of us in the gay community find it terribly offensive. And although there is no turdburgling community (that I know of) loudly protesting the use of the word, obviously there are a few (granted a _very_ few) who find the word offensive. And so, even though I have never, ever used this term before (nor, in fact, even heard of this term before this thread), I shall endeavour never to use it in the future. It is, after all, just Plain Courtesy. Esprix ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2002, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/208 "2002-12-10T17:29:11Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by **jehovah68** _ > > [hijack]Slippery slope there SPOOFE. Is it a slur or is it empowering to the speaker of the word if they belong to the group which is offended by its usage?[/hijack] We’ve covered this. Anybody got a link? Esprix ---
**Author:** ![mouthbreather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a698b9/32.png) [@mouthbreather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mouthbreather)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2002, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/209 "2002-12-10T17:37:10Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Esprix \* > \*\*And although there is no turdburgling community (that I know of) \*\* Looks like we’ve been covering our tracks pretty well. ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2002, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/210 "2002-12-10T17:44:42Z")
Burgle people’s turds as you would have them burgle unto you. The Brownish Rule? ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2002, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/211 "2002-12-10T18:53:00Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Esprix \* > \*\*And although there is no turdburgling community (that I know of) loudly protesting the use of the word, obviously there are a few (granted a _very_ few) who find the word offensive. And so, even though I have never, ever used this term before (nor, in fact, even heard of this term before this thread), I shall endeavour never to use it in the future. > \*\* Just to be clear, and in all seriousness, does this hold when you (and every other poster save one) really think that the word in question is being misinterpreted? Because I really think that “turdburgler” is simply a childish term of insult, because it sounds funny. As a thirdgrader, this would have been my favorite insult in the world - not because I would be equating the subject of the insult to being homosexual (I don’t think I knew _what_ a homosexual was in 3rd grade), but because the word “turd” is hilarious, and using it in a compound word only magnifies that hilarity. I would also suppose that “turdburgler” would continue to be my favorite word until Fr. Stark taught my 9th grade english class what “masticate” meantm, but that’s neither here nor there. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2002, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/212 "2002-12-10T18:56:24Z")
I was visiting some friends out of state the other day, and I found what appeared to be some very valuable fossils in their back yard. Thinking quickly, I broke into their garden shed and grabbed a bag of fertilizer they had lying around and hid the fossils inside, and headed for the border. Along the way, I killed a rooster and cooked it over a campfire I made with some mesquite chips I had in my backpack. Thusly provisioned, I crossed the California border at the dead of night and made it home with my valuable fossils. That’s right, I’m a bone-smuggling, cock-smoking turd-burglar. ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2002, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/213 "2002-12-10T19:10:02Z")
Well, if **Cajun Man** can have [a problem with the word “queer”](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=147281) - which has, for all intent and purposes, been reclaimed by the gay community and is actually used in mainstream organizations (Queer Nation, for one) and as an identifying moniker for the community - then surely “turdburglar” can be interpreted as offensive, even if it’s not meant to be. Yes, I think it’s silly, too, but I’m not inclined to offend someone who has given me no reason to offend them. Esprix ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2002, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/214 "2002-12-10T19:18:29Z")
Gotcha. What about in this case, where the offendee isn’t a member of the group that is supposedly being targeted? (Sorry to keeping aiming these your direction, Esprix, but you’re giving great replies - thanks.) ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2002, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/215 "2002-12-10T19:20:39Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by Esprix_ > Yes, I think it’s silly, too, but I’m not inclined to offend someone who has given me no reason to offend them. An excellent point. However, recall the first mention in this thread of the alleged offensiveness of “turdburglar”: > [@](#): > > _Originally posted by A. Nemo_ > That is a repugnant anti-gay slur. Its use as invective demonstrates what a bigoted subhuman you are The first deliberate offence in this thread came from the people claiming “turdburglar” was offensive. If **A. Nemo** or **blowero** had displayed a fraction of the tact and politeness **Cajun Man** had in his thread about the word “queer,” this hijack probably wouldn’t have gone past five or six posts. ---
**Author:** ![Mtgman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5a626/32.png) [@Mtgman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mtgman)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2002, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/216 "2002-12-10T19:21:13Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Miller \* > \*\*That’s right, I’m a bone-smuggling, cock-smoking turd-burglar. \*\* AND HE’S SOMEWHERE IN YOUR HOUSE! :eek: :eek: :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Witch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/258eb7/32.png) [@Witch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Witch)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2002, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/217 "2002-12-10T19:24:54Z")
Well, in this case, I liken it to the kid that ran home wailing to Mommy over every conflict, no matter how small, real or imagined. After awhile, you just stop listening. I’m all for being sensitive to _anyone’s_ feelings, but there’s a certain point when you just feel like saying… Aw…_c’mon._ Aren’t we pushing it a tad too far here? ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2002, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/218 "2002-12-10T19:35:59Z")
So pinching turds is or is not offensive? ---
**Author:** ![Witch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/258eb7/32.png) [@Witch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Witch)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2002, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/219 "2002-12-10T19:48:35Z")
If burgling is acceptable I’m going to assuming pinching is as well. Now…Is it “turd burgling” or “turd burglarling” when used as a verb? I’d hate to piss anyone off more than I already have. ---
**Author:** ![apotheosis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ba8739/32.png) [@apotheosis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/apotheosis)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2002, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/220 "2002-12-10T19:50:25Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Diane \* > \*\*Big vagina bigots. \*\* band name. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400.md?page=10) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400.md?page=12)