# Here I am, minty green. Something you want to say? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 9, 2002, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400 "2002-12-09T01:04:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![My\_Darn\_Snake\_Legs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f14d63/32.png) [@My\_Darn\_Snake\_Legs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/My_Darn_Snake_Legs)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2002, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/281 "2002-12-12T19:39:25Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by UncleBill \* > \*\*Yes! We have sucked another one in! \*\* Possibly not the best choice of words to use in a thread about “turdburgling.” “Assgoblin!” Jeeze, I’m gonna have to use that one at work… ---
**Author:** ![Kezermezer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b487fb/32.png) [@Kezermezer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kezermezer)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2002, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/282 "2002-12-13T00:43:00Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Uzi \* > \*\*ROTFL! Imagine reading the whole dictionary to find the meaning of the word, “turdburglar”?! A person would have to be a real lozenge to do that.🙂 \*\* A loo lozenge (read urinal cake) to be precise 😉 , since we’re discussing toilet-related activities. Checkidout: [http://www.nanowrimo.org/viewtopic.php?t=3926&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0](http://www.nanowrimo.org/viewtopic.php?t=3926&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0) Oh, my poor ugly link. Won’t someone tell me how to make it all pretty like everyone else’s? ---
**Author:** ![Asylum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/53a042/32.png) [@Asylum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asylum)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2002, 10:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/283 "2002-12-13T10:47:40Z")
Quick question for **Doghouse Reilly** and **Minty Green** : how do you guys feel about permanently being associated with the word “turdburgler” in so many people’s minds? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![minty\_green](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f6c823/32.png) [@minty\_green](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/minty_green)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2002, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/284 "2002-12-13T13:17:03Z")
Like I could give a shit? ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2002, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/285 "2002-12-13T14:20:16Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by minty green \* > \*\*Like I could give a shit? \*\* But would you take a shit? ---
**Author:** ![Opengrave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/919ad9/32.png) [@Opengrave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Opengrave)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2002, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/286 "2002-12-13T21:53:46Z")
[More ass trouble brewing](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=149688) What to assmonkeys do… brew turd tea? :get it??? brewing…tea: ::I swear something happened, the keyboard stole all the funniness right out of that one:: ---
**Author:** ![Boxer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47774/32.png) [@Boxer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boxer)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2002, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/287 "2002-12-14T02:50:18Z")
So, my wife drags me over to the Straight Dope and makes me join. This is the fifth or sixth thread I read and now my kids are conspiring to call the men in the white coats. She and I are both sitting here laughing our…our gluteus maximi off (can I say that here?). The kids are whispering. “What are they laughing about? Shouldn’t we call someone? They are supposed to be the sane ones here.” Off topic question from a newby. Is there a sub-pit here for topics like this that really are too offensive, ranting, rude, and lowbrow for the BBQ Pit? ---
**Author:** ![Boxer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47774/32.png) [@Boxer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boxer)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2002, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/288 "2002-12-14T02:50:18Z")
So, my wife drags me over to the Straight Dope and makes me join. This is the fifth or sixth thread I read and now my kids are conspiring to call the men in the white coats. She and I are both sitting here laughing our…our gluteus maximi off (can I say that here?). The kids are whispering. “What are they laughing about? Shouldn’t we call someone? They are supposed to be the sane ones here.” Off topic question for a newby. Is there a sub-pit here for topics like this that really are too offensive, ranting, rude, and lowbrow for the BBQ Pit? ---
**Author:** ![Boxer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47774/32.png) [@Boxer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boxer)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2002, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/289 "2002-12-14T02:53:41Z")
Oops, well, now I know how to double post. Please don’t tell me there is a name they use that is meant to be offensive only to people too dumb to post properly. ---
**Author:** ![Boxer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47774/32.png) [@Boxer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boxer)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2002, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/290 "2002-12-14T02:55:10Z")
I did not double post that. I swear it was my evil twin. ---
**Author:** ![Koxinga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/4af34b/32.png) [@Koxinga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Koxinga)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2002, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/291 "2002-12-14T04:43:47Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Boxer \* > Off topic question for a newby. Is there a sub-pit here for topics like this that really are too offensive, ranting, rude, and lowbrow for the BBQ Pit? Yeah, Great Debates. ---
**Author:** ![1000Voices](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/1/b3f665/32.png) [@1000Voices](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/1000Voices)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2003, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/292 "2003-08-09T00:58:58Z")
Consider the words of Plato who said that “Love can exist without any other force, but Hate cannot exist without prior Love”. How can one paraphrase the Master? Forgive my humble attempt. One cannot truly HATE something until someone, or some principle that one loves has been violated. e.g.: Your Amtrak train is 15 minutes late, causing you to miss the start of your favorite tv show. You won’t HATE Amtrak for that. But if that delay caused you to arrive at the hospital a few minutes after your mother passed away, and you weren’t able to say goodbye, you may in part blame Amtrak and “hate” them forevermore. Not that Amtrak (or any other person or institution) purposefully tried to do you harm; but it is our PERCEPTION of the harm caused to ourselves, loved ones, or cherished principles that causes us to hate. So gay-bashers may perceive that homosexuals are hurting the morals of society; Democrats may perceive that Republicans are wasteful and selfish, etc. The point is, that hatred is based on our PERCEPTION of harm to those people or things that we love. If man ever evolves to the point that he can realize that faultiness of his perceptions, then, and only then will hatred subside. Until then, one more quote from the Master: A man is not wise until he can fully appreciate the depth of his ignorance, (and not just that of his neighbor’s) Parenthetic addendum mine… ---
**Author:** ![1000Voices](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/1/b3f665/32.png) [@1000Voices](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/1000Voices)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2003, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/293 "2003-08-09T00:59:56Z")
Consider the words of Plato who said that “Love can exist without any other force, but Hate cannot exist without prior Love”. How can one paraphrase the Master? Forgive my humble attempt. One cannot truly HATE something until someone, or some principle that one loves has been violated. e.g.: Your Amtrak train is 15 minutes late, causing you to miss the start of your favorite tv show. You won’t HATE Amtrak for that. But if that delay caused you to arrive at the hospital a few minutes after your mother passed away, and you weren’t able to say goodbye, you may in part blame Amtrak and “hate” them forevermore. Not that Amtrak (or any other person or institution) purposefully tried to do you harm; but it is our PERCEPTION of the harm caused to ourselves, loved ones, or cherished principles that causes us to hate. So gay-bashers may perceive that homosexuals are hurting the morals of society; Democrats may perceive that Republicans are wasteful and selfish, etc. The point is, that hatred is based on our PERCEPTION of harm to those people or things that we love. If man ever evolves to the point that he can realize that faultiness of his perceptions, then, and only then will hatred subside. Until then, one more quote from the Master: A man is not wise until he can fully appreciate the depth of his ignorance, (and not just that of his neighbor’s) Parenthetic addendum mine… ---
**Author:** ![1000Voices](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/1/b3f665/32.png) [@1000Voices](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/1000Voices)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2003, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/294 "2003-08-09T01:27:18Z")
Consider the words of Plato who said that “Love can exist without any other force, but Hate cannot exist without prior Love”. How can one paraphrase the Master? Forgive my humble attempt. One cannot truly HATE something until someone, or some principle that one loves has been violated. e.g.: Your Amtrak train is 15 minutes late, causing you to miss the start of your favorite tv show. You won’t HATE Amtrak for that. But if that delay caused you to arrive at the hospital a few minutes after your mother passed away, and you weren’t able to say goodbye, you may in part blame Amtrak and “hate” them forevermore. Not that Amtrak (or any other person or institution) purposefully tried to do you harm; but it is our PERCEPTION of the harm caused to ourselves, loved ones, or cherished principles that causes us to hate. So gay-bashers may perceive that homosexuals are hurting the morals of society; Democrats may perceive that Republicans are wasteful and selfish, etc. The point is, that hatred is based on our PERCEPTION of harm to those people or things that we love. If man ever evolves to the point that he can realize that faultiness of his perceptions, then, and only then will hatred subside. Until then, one more quote from the Master: A man is not wise until he can fully appreciate the depth of his ignorance, (and not just that of his neighbor’s) Parenthetic addendum mine… ---
**Author:** ![Koxinga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/4af34b/32.png) [@Koxinga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Koxinga)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2003, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/295 "2003-08-09T01:34:49Z")
Yes, yes, all very well and good, but did Plato have anything to say about turdburgling? Huh?! Answer me that! Waitaminnit–come to think of it . . . ---
**Author:** ![1000Voices](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/1/b3f665/32.png) [@1000Voices](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/1000Voices)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2003, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/296 "2003-08-09T02:30:18Z")
Quite a bit actually, being a Greek of the classical period, although the terminology would have vastly differed. Read Books 4-6 of “The Republic”… ---
**Author:** ![1000Voices](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/1/b3f665/32.png) [@1000Voices](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/1000Voices)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2003, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/297 "2003-08-09T02:37:02Z")
Oops, sorry about the triple post. I guess I have evil triplets… ---
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2003, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/298 "2003-08-09T02:54:54Z")
So it took you the better part of a year to come up with that? ---
**Author:** ![RoundGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/90ced4/32.png) [@RoundGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RoundGuy)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2003, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/299 "2003-08-09T03:14:04Z")
While I can’t possibly imagine why some goat-felching moron would want to resurrect this god-forsaken thread after _eight fucking months_, I’ve got to ask: Has there been a concensus reached as to whether the term in question is actually a slur? I have to admit, I am a cavedweller if it is. ---
**Author:** ![Wolfian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/7ea924/32.png) [@Wolfian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolfian)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2003, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/300 "2003-08-09T03:18:45Z")
Well he did just get here in April, so he probably just found the thread, though I’m not sure I would have re-opened this thread just for that if I were him/her. Meh. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400.md?page=14) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400.md?page=16)