# Here I am, minty green. Something you want to say? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 9, 2002, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400 "2002-12-09T01:04:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Truth\_Seeker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5fc32e/32.png) [@Truth\_Seeker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truth_Seeker)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2002, 8:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/161 "2002-12-10T08:29:51Z")
> [@](#): > > \*\*You don’t believe it’s an anti-gay slur if the person who used it is homophobic? \*\* What if he is? Under your reasoning, it would be an equally forbiden anti-gay insult if he had used “boy” or _shudder_ “showtune hummer.” Anyway, I have it on good authority that this whole mess is the result of a typo. **Doghouse** meant to type "turd **bugler**. ---
**Author:** ![istara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e79b87/32.png) [@istara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/istara)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2002, 8:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/162 "2002-12-10T08:39:50Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Happy Lendervedder \* > **Or, to put it another way, girls have turds too ya know.** By God we do NOT! We are far too roses-and-ribbons for something that vulgar. _We are girls And that is it Like Queen Liz We do not shit_ ---
**Author:** ![t-keela](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a3d4f5/32.png) [@t-keela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/t-keela)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2002, 8:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/163 "2002-12-10T08:49:46Z")
Is there an award for the most hijacked thread? Cause this one went to shit!!! ---
**Author:** ![Dijon\_Warlock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a9a28c/32.png) [@Dijon\_Warlock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dijon_Warlock)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2002, 9:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/164 "2002-12-10T09:04:41Z")
How 'bout “fartbiter”? Can we use that one? Chuck Barris used to call people insufferable fartbiters. I always liked that one. And here I sit with half a wall wattled! What’ll I do? ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2002, 9:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/165 "2002-12-10T09:16:59Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by blowero \* > \*\* Grow the fuck up, people! And despite your assumption that I _must_ be gay if that kind of idiocy offends me, UncleBill, the truth is, it offended me because it was _offensive_…period. > That’s all I’m going to say on the matter. I have better things to do than waste time arguing with a few morons who won’t admit there might be something they actually didn’t know. I leave you to your schoolyard antics. \*\* Well then, you’re just gonna have to be offended. I think you’re the kind of person who goes out of his way to be offended. That’s as polite as I can say it. ---
**Author:** ![Desmostylus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c57346/32.png) [@Desmostylus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Desmostylus)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2002, 10:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/166 "2002-12-10T10:48:37Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by blowero \* > **It wouldn’t have bugged me at all if the person who used it had just admitted he didn’t realize it was an anti-gay slur and apologized. But instead we got several responses from immature people who not only insist that they are right when they are obviously dead-wrong, but also are amused by posting every _other_ derogatory term for gays that they can think of. Grow the fuck up, people!** Uh, Earth to **blowero** It seems to me, and I was there at the time, that this thread got out of hand when this was said: > [@](#): > > _Originally posted by Mr. A. Nemo_ > \*\*I’m so glad you can make light out of such hatred. > > Its used in the same fashion as fudgepacker, shitstabber, stoolpusher, fartknocker, bonesmuggler. Which are all extremely offensive and derogatory remarks aimed at homosexuals. Nigger and fag are also adolescent slurs so that makes them acceptable in your mind?\*\* Who exactly were these “immature people” you refer to? ---
**Author:** ![Koxinga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/4af34b/32.png) [@Koxinga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Koxinga)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2002, 11:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/167 "2002-12-10T11:06:30Z")
First time I ever started a thread that went into four pages. I should do this more often. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2002, 11:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/168 "2002-12-10T11:35:26Z")
Yeah, but this one was hopelessly derailed after 6 posts. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2002, 11:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/169 "2002-12-10T11:36:33Z")
Sorry, there should be a smiley there. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Desmostylus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c57346/32.png) [@Desmostylus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Desmostylus)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2002, 11:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/170 "2002-12-10T11:45:23Z")
Well, it was a pretty lame-arsed thread until Eternal and Mr. A. Nemo showed up. ---
**Author:** ![apotheosis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ba8739/32.png) [@apotheosis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/apotheosis)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2002, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/171 "2002-12-10T12:21:43Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Desmostylus \* > \*\*Well, it was a pretty lame-arsed thread until Eternal and Mr. A. Nemo showed up. \*\* Surely you’re not going to marginalize **blowero’s** contribution, such as it is. Has anyone mentioned “pooter shooter” yet? ---
**Author:** ![Mr.A.Nemo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/94ad74/32.png) [@Mr.A.Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.A.Nemo)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2002, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/172 "2002-12-10T12:26:50Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by spooje \* > \*\*We’ve been over this, haven’t we? Yes, I suppose the word could used that way. But it is an assumption on your part that it _always_ is used that way. > > Ya know, when my 8 yr old nephew uses the word to playfully insult his friends, it’s because he thinks the word ‘turd’ is funny as hell. _It is not because he is filled with hatred and venom at homosexual men_. I’m pretty sure he does not fully understand what ‘homosexual’ means, if he understands it all. \*\* Would you approve of your 8 year old nephew running around calling his friends _fag_ or _faggot_? Because he doesn’t know the meaning and he thinks its funny? Because those terms don’t always mean homosexual… he could be calling his friends a cigarette or a bundle of sticks, right? ---
**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2002, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/173 "2002-12-10T12:30:02Z")
> [@](#): > > What the fuck, Maeglin? You don’t believe it’s an anti-gay slur if the person who used it is homophobic? Think about what you are saying. That’s like saying “nigger” isn’t a racial slur if a white racist uses it. Is it a racial slur when, say, Chris Rock says it? > [@](#): > > Would you approve of your 8 year old nephew running around calling his friends fag or faggot? I would approve of my 8-year-old nephew running around calling a piece of kindling a “faggot”. Would you be offended if your 8-year-old nephew was running around calling someone, say, “broccoli”? Or perhaps “lozenge”? ---
**Author:** ![apotheosis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ba8739/32.png) [@apotheosis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/apotheosis)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2002, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/174 "2002-12-10T12:50:15Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Mr. A. Nemo \* > \*\*Would you approve of your 8 year old nephew running around calling his friends _fag_ or _faggot_? Because he doesn’t know the meaning and he thinks its funny? Because those terms don’t always mean homosexual… he could be calling his friends a cigarette or a bundle of sticks, right? \*\* So when will you be taking “The **Straight** Dope” to task for picking a name that implies a pro-heterosexual bias, o hypersensitive one? ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2002, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/175 "2002-12-10T12:50:45Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Mr. A. Nemo \* > \*\*Would you approve of your 8 year old nephew running around calling his friends _fag_ or _faggot_? Because he doesn’t know the meaning and he thinks its funny? Because those terms don’t always mean homosexual… he could be calling his friends a cigarette or a bundle of sticks, right? \*\* Well if he’s using those words to mean a cigarette or a bundle of sticks, how could that be wrong? Here’s the problem. You say 'that’s an anti-gay slur and _everyone knows it’_ \*. And put near everbody except you and **blowero** say ‘No, it’s not’. You even have the gall to call someone ‘subhuman’ for using it. Just because you personally take it as a slur does not make it a slur exclusively. If we all agreed that it was a slur, maybe things would be different. But clearly, we do not agree. If the results of this thread are any indication, you are of the minority opinion. A very small, but vocal minority. I would never use the word, because it sounds childish and stupid to me. But I cannot assign the heinousness to the use of it that you obviously do. \*[sub] actually, this was **blowero** ’s contention[/sub] ---
**Author:** ![Desmostylus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c57346/32.png) [@Desmostylus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Desmostylus)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2002, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/176 "2002-12-10T12:58:27Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Mr. A. Nemo \* > \*\*Would you approve of your 8 year old nephew running around calling his friends _fag_ or _faggot_? Because he doesn’t know the meaning and he thinks its funny? Because those terms don’t always mean homosexual… he could be calling his friends a cigarette or a bundle of sticks, right? \*\* My neighbour’s kid runs around shooting people and animals with his toy gun. I certainly wouldn’t approve if he was using a real gun. The thing is, it’s a toy gun, and _he’s just a fucking kid_. ---
**Author:** ![UncleBill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/d26b3c/32.png) [@UncleBill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBill)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2002, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/177 "2002-12-10T13:08:32Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by blowero \* > **Uh, Earth to UncleBill. I am not gay, and I never said I was, and that shouldn’t have a goddamn thing to do with it.** I was factually incorrect in the sentence “You have intimated you are a homosexual male.” I apologize for that factual error. The rest stands. ---
**Author:** ![Desmostylus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c57346/32.png) [@Desmostylus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Desmostylus)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2002, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/178 "2002-12-10T13:21:35Z")
I just re-read my last post, and oh, shit! I’ve just realised: a) I must think children are animals b) I must be opposed to the second amendment c) Maybe I’m a pedophile because I used the words “fucking” and “kid” in the same sectence. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2002, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/179 "2002-12-10T14:00:07Z")
> [@](#): > > Ass-munching is equally disgusting no matter the genders of the muncher and ass-owner respectively. > [@](#): > > You’ve hijacked my thread to Cuba, you lot of carpet munchers! Give it back! > [@](#): > > I’m not a lesbian. But I do munch like one! > [@](#): > > Did anyone find out if “buttmuncher” is allowed? It’s all so confusing. GodDAMNit, folks, can’t any of you fucking capitalize my friggin’ name?!? I’m so offended. ☹ Just looking for a little respect, that’s all. ---
**Author:** ![vanilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f19dbf/32.png) [@vanilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vanilla)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2002, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400/180 "2002-12-10T14:05:18Z")
I’m just imagining someone reading this board for the first time, and picking **this** thread as the first read. :eek: [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-am-minty-green-something-you-want-to-say/141400.md?page=10)