# Here I lose any possible foodie cred I may have remaining

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-lose-any-possible-foodie-cred-i-may-have-remaining/837913>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [July 31, 2019, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-lose-any-possible-foodie-cred-i-may-have-remaining/837913 "2019-07-31T03:32:36Z")\
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**Author:** ![Machine\_Elf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@Machine\_Elf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Machine_Elf)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-lose-any-possible-foodie-cred-i-may-have-remaining/837913/21 "2019-07-31T17:05:29Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> Ketchup is wrong on most things, including fries.

I once saw a T-shirt that said “[I put ketchup on my ketchup.](https://www.amazon.com/Ketchup-My-T-shirt-Funny-Tomato/dp/B077R1L3XJ)” I almost bought it. I load each french fry with as much ketchup as it can possibly hold before bringing it to my mouth.

I’m not a fan of White Castle, but I love McDonald’s Filet-O-Fish sandwich.

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**Author:** ![Folly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folly/32/3219_2.png) [@Folly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folly)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-lose-any-possible-foodie-cred-i-may-have-remaining/837913/22 "2019-07-31T17:16:12Z")

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> [@SanVito](#):
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> Firstly, I have never understood why people on this board get so hung up on ketchup and hotdogs, and secondly, how do we pronounce catsup? I think I’ve only ever seen it written down.

I tipped a hamper full of cats onto the floor and they went rolling all over the place. Seven ended up cats down, but three were catsup.

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**Author:** ![Zyada](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zyada/32/3028_2.png) [@Zyada](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zyada)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-lose-any-possible-foodie-cred-i-may-have-remaining/837913/23 "2019-07-31T17:36:42Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> While I am philosophically confident that there is occasionally, indeed, some spot which White Castle would hit, I have no idea what or where that spot would be. My best guess would be for someone who has just been rescued back to civilization, after being forced to subsist on nothing but rabbit meat for an extended period of time, and who is thus suffering severe physiological consequences from a lack of dietary lipids.
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> The others, though, sure.

The spot it hits would probably somewhere between your navel and your spine

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**Author:** ![Spud](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spud/32/347_2.png) [@Spud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spud)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-lose-any-possible-foodie-cred-i-may-have-remaining/837913/24 "2019-07-31T17:41:12Z")

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> [@Folly](#):
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> I tipped a hamper full of cats onto the floor and they went rolling all over the place. Seven ended up cats down, but three were catsup.

i pronounce it much closer to Catch Up (run together).

As far as misusing it’s… what can I say, I was all hopped up on Hot Pockets.

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**Author:** ![jnglmassiv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f07891/32.png) [@jnglmassiv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jnglmassiv)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-lose-any-possible-foodie-cred-i-may-have-remaining/837913/25 "2019-07-31T18:03:02Z")

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> [@Spud](#):
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> Beans in Chili are fine.  
> Miracle Whip has it’s place.  
> Sometimes a White Castle burger hits the spot.  
> Ketchup is not forbidden on a hot dog.

I’m ok with all of these though I’ll tease you about the hot dogs. However, I can’t agree that Hot Pockets are good.

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**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-lose-any-possible-foodie-cred-i-may-have-remaining/837913/26 "2019-07-31T18:09:54Z")

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> [@Spud](#):
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> i pronounce it much closer to Catch Up (run together).

[Are you here to solve my ketchup problem?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2-1basQhX8)

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**Author:** ![DrCube](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a3d4f5/32.png) [@DrCube](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrCube)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-lose-any-possible-foodie-cred-i-may-have-remaining/837913/27 "2019-07-31T18:17:23Z")

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> [@SanVito](#):
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> Firstly, I have never understood why people on this board get so hung up on ketchup and hotdogs, and secondly, how do we pronounce catsup? I think I’ve only ever seen it written down.

Cecil wrote an article on it where he explains the perfectly valid reasons why ketchup is wrong on hot dogs. But I’m not the food police, eat whatever you want.

And I always though catsup was pronounced “ketchup”. Same word, just spelled differently, like jail and gaol.

I disagree with the OP on some points, and wholeheartedly agree on White Castle sliders. Oh, and I once stopped at that six stool, hundred year old burger joint in Kansas mentioned above. It was good, but doesn’t quite scratch the same itch as White Castle.

Foodies don’t have to march in lockstep. Don’t be ashamed of your unorthodox preferences!

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-lose-any-possible-foodie-cred-i-may-have-remaining/837913/28 "2019-07-31T18:20:00Z")

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Ketchup on a corndog is a sin. Yea, verily.

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**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-lose-any-possible-foodie-cred-i-may-have-remaining/837913/29 "2019-07-31T18:22:13Z")

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> [@Spud](#):
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> Ketchup is not forbidden on a hot dog.

This has been discussed quite a bit but there is a distinction here. Ketchup on a hotdog is fine (depending on your taste, of course), but ketchup doesn’t go on a Chicago dog. A Chicago-style hot dog is a particular way to serve a hot dog and has [yellow mustard, white onion, green relish, sport peppers, tomatoes, dill pickle spear, and celery salt](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago-style_hot_dog). That’s how it’s served, that’s it’s name, but you can actually have ketchup on a hot dog in Chicago without getting run out on a rail. The guys at my local hot dog place don’t care if someone wants ketchup. It’s akin to going to a place and ordering a chilidog but wanting whip cream on it instead of chili; without the chili it ceases to be a “chilidog.”

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**Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-lose-any-possible-foodie-cred-i-may-have-remaining/837913/30 "2019-07-31T18:23:54Z")

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[How come they call it “ketchup” sometimes and “catsup” other times?](http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/683/how-come-they-call-it-ketchup-sometimes-and-catsup-other-times/)

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**Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-lose-any-possible-foodie-cred-i-may-have-remaining/837913/31 "2019-07-31T18:29:40Z")

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> [@Machine\_Elf](#):
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> I once saw a T-shirt that said “[I put ketchup on my ketchup.](https://www.amazon.com/Ketchup-My-T-shirt-Funny-Tomato/dp/B077R1L3XJ)” I almost bought it. I load each french fry with as much ketchup as it can possibly hold before bringing it to my mouth.
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> I’m not a fan of White Castle, but I love McDonald’s Filet-O-Fish sandwich.

With ketchup?

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-lose-any-possible-foodie-cred-i-may-have-remaining/837913/32 "2019-07-31T19:00:18Z")

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> [@Spud](#):
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> Beans in Chili are fine.  
> Miracle Whip has it’s place.  
> Sometimes a White Castle burger hits the spot.  
> Ketchup is not forbidden on a hot dog.

1. Damn straight. When I make chili, I use a mixture of kidney beans and chickpeas.
2. Never understood Miracle Whip. It’s basically a cut-rate mayonnaise, watered down by the absence of egg yolks. But to each his own.
3. Yeppers.
4. Not only do I love ketchup on a hot dog, but the whole notion of getting all huffy about what you should or shouldn’t do to a _hot dog_ is beyond me.

I mean, even when it’s an all-beef kosher hot dog, it’s still the parts of the cow that they couldn’t sell as steaks or even as burger. That these ground-up leftover bits should be treated as something too pure to defile with ketchup…_are you fucking kidding me?!_

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**Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-lose-any-possible-foodie-cred-i-may-have-remaining/837913/33 "2019-07-31T20:02:08Z")

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> [@Spud](#):
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> …But then I noticed the brand. I was really hungry so decided to try one anyway. IT WAS GOOD, and I made another and IT WAS GOOD TOO.
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> I’m so ashamed… they were Hot Pockets!

Okay, admit it…you’re really Jim Gaffigan, arent’ you? 😃

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**Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-lose-any-possible-foodie-cred-i-may-have-remaining/837913/34 "2019-07-31T20:14:58Z")

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> [@Spud](#):
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> I
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> Beans in Chili are fine.  
> Miracle Whip has it’s place.  
> Sometimes a White Castle burger hits the spot.  
> Ketchup is not forbidden on a hot dog.
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> I’m so ashamed… they were Hot Pockets!

_Beans in Chili are fine._ No, they are required!

_Miracle Whip has it’s place._ Miracle Whip is great!

_Sometimes a White Castle burger hits the spot._ Only if you’re drunk.

_Ketchup is not forbidden on a hot dog._ HEATHEN!!!

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-lose-any-possible-foodie-cred-i-may-have-remaining/837913/35 "2019-07-31T20:37:14Z")

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Lots of resistance here to Miracle Whip…what about it’s evil dessert twin Cool Whip? Eh? Eh?

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**Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-lose-any-possible-foodie-cred-i-may-have-remaining/837913/36 "2019-07-31T20:47:18Z")

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> [@Spud](#):
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> Miracle Whip has it’s place.

When I was a kid I thought I didn’t like mayo. Later as an adult I discovered I do actually like mayo. My mom always bought Miracle Whip, which at the time I didn’t realize was different from mayo. It’s actually Miracle Whip that I don’t like.

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> Ketchup is not forbidden on a hot dog.

I thought it was only forbidden in Chicago. Has this rule spread throughout the rest of hte country?

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**Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-lose-any-possible-foodie-cred-i-may-have-remaining/837913/37 "2019-07-31T20:53:36Z")

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> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#):
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> Lots of resistance here to Miracle Whip…what about it’s evil dessert twin Cool Whip? Eh? Eh?

Frozen Cool Whip is a delight. White Castles are great going down but I have a problem with them once they hit that spot. Or they have a problem with me. We agree to disagree and the only real loser in this fight is the toilet.

I have eaten Hot Pockets and not hated them. I haven’t liked them either. When I was very young I ate my hot dogs with ketchup and sweet pickle relish. I also liked to put sugar on my Frosted Flakes, so you know how I was back then.  
ETA: I always thought chili had beans and chili con carne was the one with meat.

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**Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-lose-any-possible-foodie-cred-i-may-have-remaining/837913/38 "2019-07-31T20:55:54Z")

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> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#):
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> what about it’s evil dessert twin Cool Whip? Eh? Eh?

You mean Cool Hwip?

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-lose-any-possible-foodie-cred-i-may-have-remaining/837913/39 "2019-07-31T21:57:14Z")

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> [@Machine\_Elf](#):
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> I once saw a T-shirt that said “[I put ketchup on my ketchup.](https://www.amazon.com/Ketchup-My-T-shirt-Funny-Tomato/dp/B077R1L3XJ)” I almost bought it. I load each french fry with as much ketchup as it can possibly hold before bringing it to my mouth.

I’d fall into a diabetic coma with that much sugar.

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**Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-i-lose-any-possible-foodie-cred-i-may-have-remaining/837913/40 "2019-07-31T21:59:35Z")

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> [@Spud](#):
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> Miracle Whip has it’s place.

But that apostrophe doesn’t.

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