# Here it is, she's been asking for it, the pitting of Quiddity Glomfuster

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 10, 2007, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-it-is-shes-been-asking-for-it-the-pitting-of-quiddity-glomfuster/403495 "2007-05-10T02:31:37Z")\
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**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2007, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-it-is-shes-been-asking-for-it-the-pitting-of-quiddity-glomfuster/403495/421 "2007-05-11T20:55:56Z")

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[QUOTE=nashiitashii]  
Takes a lot of strength not to emit a “YA RLY” into a post responding to that, but somehow I manage.

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O RLY?

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**Author:** ![Auntbeast](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Auntbeast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Auntbeast)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2007, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-it-is-shes-been-asking-for-it-the-pitting-of-quiddity-glomfuster/403495/422 "2007-05-11T20:56:18Z")

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It’s hell to live in this old world. What with all the misunderstandings and lack of communication and all.

Which is why it is important, especially in a context that can not easily show your emotional state, expressions or intent, to be as clear as possible. Which is also why many people have taken time out of their lives to try to get it through your head that what you are putting forth is not what you say you intend to put forth. It is amazing to me all the different ways that this has been said to you QG, and yet, overwhelmingly, you don’t seem to grok that.

I recently read somewhere (probably here somewhere) that we judge ourselves by our intentions and others by their actions or words. You have the inside scoop on your intentions. We don’t. And a fair number of people have tried to explain to you that your intentions are NOT coming through as sent. The logical path to take would be to wonder why that was, examine what you are doing and see if their might be a better way to get your actual meanings across in a way that is more generally perceived to be the way you want it to be.

My daughter is 19 months old and isn’t talking much yet, but she is able to adequately express to me when she is tired, thirsty, wants to go outside, wants to play in her pool, wants to watch a movie or wants to play. She has figured out ways to do this without speaking. Trial and error. Seeing what works and what doesn’t. It is called learning.

Is it beyond the realm of comprehension that maybe, just maybe, you might possibly be doing something to come across in a way that is NOT your intent and maybe, just maybe, there is something you could do to improve it?

Being misunderstood and wrongly thought of is never pleasant. I had a customer think that I said something about him because he was black, when I found that out, I was devastated. I was also forbidden to speak to him about it, so I wasn’t allowed to change his mind. It was months later, I was able to say something to him for him to realize that he could not have been more wrong. To this day, he is still one of my favorite customers. I wished I had the opportunity to right the wrong that he felt much, much sooner. It saddens me to see you having the opportunity to right a wrong, and not taking it for the gift it is. Maybe it is too painful for you to do in this thread, but I hope you do it in others.

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**Author:** ![fisha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@fisha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fisha)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2007, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-it-is-shes-been-asking-for-it-the-pitting-of-quiddity-glomfuster/403495/423 "2007-05-11T20:59:45Z")

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snort

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**Author:** ![rayh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e79b87/32.png) [@rayh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rayh)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2007, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-it-is-shes-been-asking-for-it-the-pitting-of-quiddity-glomfuster/403495/424 "2007-05-11T21:16:58Z")

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But **Auntbeast** it is our fault that we just don’t “get” her, have you not been reading?

I mean some people do “get” her but they are obviously smarter than the rest of us. And the ones that don’t “get” her are not worth bothering about.

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2007, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-it-is-shes-been-asking-for-it-the-pitting-of-quiddity-glomfuster/403495/425 "2007-05-11T21:18:20Z")

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[QUOTE=Quiddity Glomfuster]  
What happened to ‘don’t sweat the small stuff’ and all those philosophies?  
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If I piss off 1 person in 10, I don’t sweat it. If I piss off 9 in 10, I pause and think about that. You’ve got a weird definition of ‘small stuff’, I think.

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**Author:** ![Sarahfeena](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarahfeena/32/519_2.png) [@Sarahfeena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarahfeena)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2007, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-it-is-shes-been-asking-for-it-the-pitting-of-quiddity-glomfuster/403495/426 "2007-05-11T21:25:55Z")

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[QUOTE=Quiddity Glomfuster]  
Because, WhyNot, there is almost nothing that someone won’t find offensive. It’s the Offended Culture. Everybody’s offended about something all the time. Some people are offended by ‘cunt’ and some people love the word. It is impossible to please everybody. Completely, totally, impossible.  
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That is completely true. But there are people here who never piss anyone off, people here who piss people off occasionally, and people here who piss people off consistently. Some people seem to want to be in that latter group, for whatever reason. I don’t really understand why, but I think they get a charge out of it. Maybe you are one of those folks. If not, I don’t know why you wouldn’t at least try to modify some behaviors that many others find offensive.

As far as the “um” thing is concerned, I have mentioned before that I find it unnecessarily snotty, and I mentioned that there is a message board (a pretty busy one) where it is specifically not allowed. I bring this up only to make the point that it’s not like there are 5 people in the world who think it reads snotty.

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> Is this the Borg? Seriously. I don’t think it’s snarky, I think it means different things to different people and that they use it based on what it means to them and there’s nothing wrong with that.
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> If the point of this board is to turn all members into clones of each other, screw that. If there’s one thing I cannot stand, it’s herd mentality.

I think you are missing the point. God knows, there is plenty of diversity of thought and personality on this board. That’s what is fun about it. But there is a such thing as trying to figure out what is an appropriate way to act in a given social situation (which this is, sad as that may seem 🙂 ), and trying to act accordingly. None of us acts exactly the same way or uses exactly the same language no matter where we are and who we are with. We modify appropriately, in an attempt to get along in society. It’s not a hard concept, really.

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> It also drives me nuts that people get offended because they assume the motivations of the other. Nobody has a right to do that. If somebody feels offended by someone else, they are obliged to inquire whether the ‘offender’ intended offense. I have no idea when culture changed such that people spend half their lives being offended at stupid, petty things, but it badly needs to stop.

Again, you are missing the point. The point is that if people are misunderstanding you over and over again, there might be some reason for it that could be easily amended. For example, “um” is just two letters. If people constantly misinterpret your intended tone because of your usage of it, it would be easy enough for you to stop. That’s all. If you don’t want to, fine, but you risk it continuing to be misinterpreted.

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> It’s illegal to convict someone without evidence, yet it has become a pastime of way too many people and it wasn’t always this way. I don’t know how or why it changed, but people weren’t always ready to get offended at a hair-trigger. They used to be sensible and not let stupid things get to them. It’s lunacy. It’s unhealthy. Cripes.
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> What happened to ‘don’t sweat the small stuff’ and all those philosophies? How did people get so bloody uptight and pole-assed? And why does a spunky female like you just let them steamroll over you? If your intent is pure, then let them understand you and who you are as you are and broaden their damn perspectives instead of trying to squeeze everyone into their narrow ones.

I doubt that **WhyNot** thinks she’s been steamrolled. You describe her as “spunky,” so she must not be _too_ beaten down. She is smart enough to realize that broadening horizons isn’t about insisting on using “um” on a message board. It’s about the exchange of ideas. I would posit that **WhyNot** has done more for broadening horizions & attitudes than most of the people on this board. Certainly more than you have, I’m sorry to say. Why? Because presenting concepts that might be a little foreign to some people is best done with reason and good humor, and not with condescending snips.

The fact is, people get annoyed and let off steam here, because there are so many places in real life that we can’t do so. You think it’s healthy to just let stuff go…some people think that it’s healthy to express annoyance or anger, rather than bottling it up inside. You think we should all broaden our horizons by accepting people the way they are…maybe you should try it sometime.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2007, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-it-is-shes-been-asking-for-it-the-pitting-of-quiddity-glomfuster/403495/427 "2007-05-11T22:11:57Z")

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[QUOTE=Quiddity Glomfuster]  
Because, WhyNot, there is almost nothing that someone won’t find offensive. It’s the Offended Culture. Everybody’s offended about something all the time. Some people are offended by ‘cunt’ and some people love the word. It is impossible to please everybody. Completely, totally, impossible.  
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True enough, but most of us are able to get by without offending enough people to generate a ten page long pit thread in two days. That’s… unusually controversial, to say the least.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2007, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-it-is-shes-been-asking-for-it-the-pitting-of-quiddity-glomfuster/403495/428 "2007-05-11T22:41:56Z")

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[QUOTE=Quiddity Glomfuster]  
I have zero emotion invested in this; it’s mildly interesting as a study of human behaviour  
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> [@Quiddity Glomfuster](#):
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> If there’s one thing I cannot stand, it’s herd mentality. It also drives me nuts that people get offended because they assume the motivations of the other…It’s lunacy. It’s unhealthy. Cripes.

Jeepers. That coolly amused detachment didn’t last long. :dubious:

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**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2007, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-it-is-shes-been-asking-for-it-the-pitting-of-quiddity-glomfuster/403495/429 "2007-05-11T23:03:48Z")

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I didn’t know **The Ryan** had a sister.

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**Author:** ![SLingshot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7cd45c/32.png) [@SLingshot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SLingshot)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2007, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-it-is-shes-been-asking-for-it-the-pitting-of-quiddity-glomfuster/403495/430 "2007-05-11T23:10:24Z")

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[QUOTE=Morbo]  
I didn’t know **The Ryan** had a sister.  
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Good one! I’d completely forgotten about him.

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**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2007, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-it-is-shes-been-asking-for-it-the-pitting-of-quiddity-glomfuster/403495/431 "2007-05-11T23:31:18Z")

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[QUOTE=Quiddity Glomfuster]  
It’s illegal to convict someone without evidence…  
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Oh, really? Would you show me where it says that?

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**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2007, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-it-is-shes-been-asking-for-it-the-pitting-of-quiddity-glomfuster/403495/432 "2007-05-11T23:49:13Z")

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[QUOTE=Liberal]  
Well, this set of pixels very much likes Quiddty Glomfuster. She rose to my defense not very long ago when I needed it most, and wittingly or not, deflected an awful lot of rancor onto herself. Whatever anyone else might think of her, I think she is courageous. And I appreciate her.  
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**Lib** , old nemesis and newfound friend, would you agree that “courage” on its own can – and often is – not just mindless but utterly unnecessary depending on the circumstances it is used in? Just because someone stood-up to your defense in said referenced thread doesn’t mean that you have to return the “favor” against all the logic piled against your doing so.

And you, of all people, are pretty well versed on the latter.

Point being, I see you owe her no debt of gratitude for having the courage to ‘defend’ you for all the wrong reasons anyway. I honestly don’t think what you did vis-a-vis PPR was worthy of your so-called “new standards.” Quite the contrary actually, buying-off someone that might have better arguments than yourself but is, presumedly, in a less bountiful financial situation than yours, is simply (and you’ll have to excuse me, for I know not how else to say it) the cowards’ wallet way out.

FWIW, I am not exactly financially strapped, but I’d _never_ even try to buy someone off the boards. And that includes the insufferable prig, **QG** , subject of this OP.

My twopence, pal.

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**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2007, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-it-is-shes-been-asking-for-it-the-pitting-of-quiddity-glomfuster/403495/433 "2007-05-11T23:53:40Z")

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[QUOTE=Quiddity Glomfuster]

Because, WhyNot, there is almost nothing that someone won’t find offensive. It’s the Offended Culture. Everybody’s offended about something all the time. Some people are offended by ‘cunt’ and some people love the word. It is impossible to please everybody. Completely, totally, impossible.  
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That’s an awfully absolutist statement. Have you, in fact, EVER been taken to task for using the phrase “Hold on a moment here” instead of “Um”?

[QUOTE=Sarahfeena]  
I doubt that WhyNot thinks she’s been steamrolled. You describe her as “spunky,” so she must not be too beaten down. She is smart enough to realize that broadening horizons isn’t about insisting on using “um” on a message board. It’s about the exchange of ideas. I would posit that WhyNot has done more for broadening horizions & attitudes than most of the people on this board. Certainly more than you have, I’m sorry to say. Why? Because presenting concepts that might be a little foreign to some people is best done with reason and good humor, and not with condescending snips.  
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Thanks! Nope, I don’t feel steamrolled. I do feel a little “just don’t go there” about a few topics. I don’t offer a lot of herbal advice here, and the herbal advice I offer is extremely tepid and non-controversial stuff. On other boards, I do recommend exotic herbal therapies for more hard core medical conditions. Not here. I’ve wetted my toes in the vaccination debate, but I’ve not come out swinging (mostly 'cause y’all - as well as more current research - have tempered my formerly anti- stance into a cautious stance). Flower essences and homeopathy - whoo-boy! Just best not to go there in these parts.

So, yeah, I do temper my posts to the audience here. I’m not here to change Doperdom - I like Doperdom. I’m proud, however, that I’ve managed to broaden some horizons \*\*Quiddity \*\*doesn’t probably realize I’ve broadened 'cause she’s newish. The attitudes towards polyamory, open marriage and neopaganism have DRASTICALLY swung to the more understanding and accepting since I’ve been posting, and yes, I’m proud to have been a part of that, along with some other fine Dopers. I can’t tell you what warm fuzzies I got when one of the first posts in the recent \*\*MizzGrand \*\*trainwreck said something like, “Look, if you want an open marriage, great, but this ain’t it!” and it WASN’T from a poly Doper! Woot! Those are some of the areas I’ve made my personal “fight ignorance” goals on. And the only reason I’ve managed to do that is because I’ve kept my communication as friendly as possible while offering challenging ideas.

In short (too late), I’ve chosen to fight battles over tolerance and acceptance of alternate world views that increase love (or at least understanding) between actual people, not the use of the word “Um” to start a post.

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**Author:** ![Roonwit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@Roonwit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roonwit)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2007, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-it-is-shes-been-asking-for-it-the-pitting-of-quiddity-glomfuster/403495/434 "2007-05-12T01:33:55Z")

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Blessed are the peacemakers, for they weave the rope with which the arrogant and insufferrable climb out of the holes they’ve dug for themselves.

(Or, um, hang themselves…whichever).

😉

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**Author:** ![nashiitashii](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7c8e57/32.png) [@nashiitashii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nashiitashii)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2007, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-it-is-shes-been-asking-for-it-the-pitting-of-quiddity-glomfuster/403495/435 "2007-05-12T02:29:38Z")

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[QUOTE=RedFury]  
**Lib** , old nemesis and newfound friend, would you agree that “courage” on its own can – and often is – not just mindless but utterly unnecessary depending on the circumstances it is used in? Just because someone stood-up to your defense in said referenced thread doesn’t mean that you have to return the “favor” against all the logic piled against your doing so.  
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I had been meaning to mention this, but courage isn’t always free of a whoppin’ chunk of stupidity behind the actions.

**Auto** : [YA RLY.](http://images.google.com/images?q=ya%20rly&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&sa=N&tab=wi) (Psst: Image #3 is relevant to your interests.) 😉

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2007, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-it-is-shes-been-asking-for-it-the-pitting-of-quiddity-glomfuster/403495/436 "2007-05-12T02:34:16Z")

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[QUOTE=DoctorJ]  
:o

Talk about your buried lede!

If anyone is in contact with her, tell her that I’m sure a bunch of us are dying to hear more.  
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I think that explains a HELL of a lot-no wonder she was so nasty, if she was that deeply closeted.

(And I, for one, would LOVE to hear **Joe Cool** ’s reaction to this! Talk about karma!)

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**Author:** ![shamrock227](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@shamrock227](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shamrock227)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2007, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-it-is-shes-been-asking-for-it-the-pitting-of-quiddity-glomfuster/403495/437 "2007-05-12T03:41:58Z")

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[QUOTE=Quiddity Glomfuster]  
Is this the Borg? Seriously. I don’t think it’s snarky, I think it means different things to different people and that they use it based on what it means to them and there’s nothing wrong with that.

If the point of this board is to turn all members into clones of each other, screw that. If there’s one thing I cannot stand, it’s herd mentality.  
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Come on now. You must see that there is a huge difference between “herd mentality” or “clones” and “trying to be on the same page in an attempt to foster more effective communication”.

I quit Mensa after a couple of months because every gathering sounded just like reading any one of your posts in this thread. The horror, they were just so smart and clever that poor, ordinary, regular people just didn’t understand them. They weren’t thrilled when I pointed out that Stephen Hawking is way smarter than any of them but very few people have trouble “getting” him. People, no matter how smart, aren’t mind readers. They can’t read one thing but just “know” that you really meant something else.

I’m beginning to think that you are being deliberately obtuse about this.

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**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2007, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-it-is-shes-been-asking-for-it-the-pitting-of-quiddity-glomfuster/403495/438 "2007-05-12T04:34:29Z")

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[QUOTE=nashiitashii]

**Auto** : [YA RLY.](http://images.google.com/images?q=ya%20rly&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&sa=N&tab=wi) (Psst: Image #3 is relevant to your interests.) 😉  
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[NO WAI!](http://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/user_images/pics/1/8455000/ngbbs44328f77ced80.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2007, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-it-is-shes-been-asking-for-it-the-pitting-of-quiddity-glomfuster/403495/439 "2007-05-12T04:35:52Z")

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> **Auntbeast** : I can’t. I feel like a failure as a Southern Woman.

Forget the buscuits. I’ve used my oven for storage for years.

Become a minor Southern writer. It works just as well.

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> **Rubystreak** : : I find older women much more decorous and passive-aggressive. I think of myself as straight-up aggressive.

I don’t think that I can make generalizations about the way that women are _now_. Certainly my generation grew up being taught to be the “proper lady” that you spoke of. Generally that meant being _passive_. It almost ruined us.

Somewhere along the way we taught ourselves and others to be _assertive_ – to speak up for ourselves, to demand to be treated fairly and to treat others fairly. I see **featherlou’s** behavior as being assertive. That’s healthy. Negotiations, boycotting, peaceful demonstrations, compromises, “fair fighting,” debating, lawsuits, straight forward conversations are all considered assertive behaviors.

Name-calling and bullying behaviors are considered _aggressive_ behaviors. They are not concerned with anyone but the self. Since people don’t usually respond favorably to a bully, aggressive behaviors don’t usually have desireable outcomes.

A _passive-aggressive_ person is someone who goes from one extreme to the other. Maybe someone you work with may be quiet and smiling and go along with whatever you want for three years and not say anything. Then one day he blows up in your face and starts screaming at you about how you never consider what he wants and you always have to have it done your way and he blames everything on you. Of couse, you’ve never had any input from him all along that he wasn’t pleased as punch. This person goes from all smiles to all fangs and talons.

I used to teach a course in communications and the difference in these styles of communication were one of the most helpful things that I taught. My students seemed to like it too.

**Rubystreak** , you asked for a cite for the following quote:

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> What I’m talking about is something that’s much more objective and measurable. It can be as simple as observing the pattern of pronoun use, noun modification, self-involvment, and discussion of relationships.

That information is very specific and I don’t have my textbooks on syntax at my fingertips. I have seen a least one study on the web in recent times and that is what I am drawing my examples from.

Here is a reference to gender specific patterns from a fairly recent book:

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> So far, then, I have argued that Fowler’s view of the best English (and, to that extent, ‘standard’ English) is that which is identified with a particular construction of English (rather than British) history. Further, it is largely derived from male patterns of speech and writing. I have suggested that his primary sources are literary and that the majority of the solecisms that he quotes are from written texts.

Tony Bex, STANDARD ENGLISH – THE WIDENING DEBATE, 1999, p. 97. This book is available at [Amazon.com](http://Amazon.com).

**featherlou** , in looking for a good cite for **Rubystreak** , I did find other sites that are perfectly willing to base their judgment of male and female writing on how aggressive the writer is. I wonder if I do that sub-consciously. I know better. (sigh)

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[QUOTE=Cervaise]  
Suddenly the thread wasn’t about her any more! Can’t have that.  
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In all fairness, it is her Pitting. I would say that the guest of honour of a Pitting gets to make it all about them from beginning to end if they want to.

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