# Here it is, she's been asking for it, the pitting of Quiddity Glomfuster

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 10, 2007, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-it-is-shes-been-asking-for-it-the-pitting-of-quiddity-glomfuster/403495 "2007-05-10T02:31:37Z")\
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**Author:** ![Quiddity\_Glomfuster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/c4cdca/32.png) [@Quiddity\_Glomfuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quiddity_Glomfuster)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-it-is-shes-been-asking-for-it-the-pitting-of-quiddity-glomfuster/403495/101 "2007-05-10T13:38:51Z")

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[QUOTE=Hentor the Barbarian]  
Wait, so now you are claiming to have read his books? Or by “works,” do you mean something other than books?I’m sure you are fairly impervious to my opinion, just as you appear to be to anyone elses. However, if you really are that disinterested, just don’t respond.  
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The folks in the philosophy club posted links to essays by Dawkins that the philosophy club Dawkins admirers said summarized the essence of his ideas. Since most of the folks in the club were philo profs, I believed them.

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**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-it-is-shes-been-asking-for-it-the-pitting-of-quiddity-glomfuster/403495/102 "2007-05-10T13:42:28Z")

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[QUOTE=Quiddity Glomfuster]  
Why? It’s not true? We know nothing of each other. I’ve been on boards where people confessed to adopting personas for their own amusement. They upheld them very well and only were ‘outed’ because they chose to confess. Since then, and since I’ve met some folks IRL that I met online, I’ve been very aware that the words I read may not be the genuine feelings of the writers whether they be good or ill.  
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Sure, you’ll get the odd freak or troll on such boards as this, but for the most part the folks I have ‘met’ here (either solely online or on occasion IRL) are real people with real opinions and real blood coursing through their veins. They are not merely holograms or pixels on the screen, and your dismissal of them (and me) as such is more a reflection of your prejudices and simple-mindedness than a description of their human value.

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**Author:** ![Quiddity\_Glomfuster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/c4cdca/32.png) [@Quiddity\_Glomfuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quiddity_Glomfuster)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-it-is-shes-been-asking-for-it-the-pitting-of-quiddity-glomfuster/403495/103 "2007-05-10T13:45:58Z")

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[QUOTE=What Exit?]

I think of this as a framework of a pitting that needed to happen and to some degree possibly an intervention.  
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You’re a bit late, actually. It’s all pretty much been said before. By the same people.

> [@](#):
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> Of course I do not think of the other posters as a bunch of pixels. I consider them people and some to be friends.

Be careful with that. I’ve seen people badly hurt because their online ‘friends’ just dropped them and never came back. Which brings me back to pixels on a screen; you just can’t believe what you read from someone is real until you’ve verified it with personal knowledge.

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**Author:** ![sinjin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ebca7d/32.png) [@sinjin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sinjin)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-it-is-shes-been-asking-for-it-the-pitting-of-quiddity-glomfuster/403495/104 "2007-05-10T13:51:19Z")

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[QUOTE=Quiddity Glomfuster]  
The salient point, for me, is that when people on a board think I’m male, they respond very differently to me. That very thing is a reason I don’t plan to change. It’s offensive to me that my opinions are admired so long as I’m not female and holding them.  
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Why do you keep bringing this up? Where are you getting it from? Cite? There are plenty of smart chicks on this board; Annamika, Jodi, Sarahfeena, Eve, vivalostwages, twickster, catsix, MsRobyn, Mouse-Maven, Rubystreak, and that’s just off the top of my head\* (I consider myself one of them too 🆒 ). I don’t agree with these woman or any of the rest of the “smart” women here on the dope all the time, many I disagree with almost all the time. You, however, are the only poster, male or female, in all the years I’ve been here, that I’ve ever been tempted to pit or call a troll. Take it for what it’s worth. :dubious:

\*The above list is not meant to be inclusive of all of the intelligent women posters I’ve seen on this board. Like I said that was just off the top of my head. And BTW what happened to Gabriell?

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**Author:** ![Quiddity\_Glomfuster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/c4cdca/32.png) [@Quiddity\_Glomfuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quiddity_Glomfuster)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-it-is-shes-been-asking-for-it-the-pitting-of-quiddity-glomfuster/403495/105 "2007-05-10T13:51:21Z")

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[QUOTE=kambuckta]  
Sure, you’ll get the odd freak or troll on such boards as this, but for the most part the folks I have ‘met’ here (either solely online or on occasion IRL) are real people with real opinions and real blood coursing through their veins. They are not merely holograms or pixels on the screen, and your dismissal of them (and me) as such is more a reflection of your prejudices and simple-mindedness than a description of their human value.  
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Not really. It comes from having watched people be hurt by thinking they had online ‘friends’ that turned out not to be so. The people who type may be real, but can you promise and guarantee me that every poster posts honestly? Do you really think you or I or anyone would be well-served to believe that everyone they deal with is honest? I take your word that you are happy about the posters you’ve met and it’s great that many people have met and found pleasant company but I haven’t had that experience and so I’m wary. And I’m not in the least insulted if people are wary of me when they haven’t met me. I think it’s wise to be cautious.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-it-is-shes-been-asking-for-it-the-pitting-of-quiddity-glomfuster/403495/106 "2007-05-10T13:58:12Z")

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[QUOTE=Quiddity Glomfuster]  
You’re a bit late, actually. It’s all pretty much been said before. By the same people.  
Be careful with that. I’ve seen people badly hurt because their online ‘friends’ just dropped them and never came back. Which brings me back to pixels on a screen; you just can’t believe what you read from someone is real until you’ve verified it with personal knowledge.  
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Well, I still hope you take this mix of pitting and advice to heart and try to tone it down a bit.

As far as the second part, thank you for the advice it is sound, but even in real life casual friends come and go. It is no big deal. Besides, I have already met many of the posters in real life and they are pretty much the same in real life as on the board.

Jim

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**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-it-is-shes-been-asking-for-it-the-pitting-of-quiddity-glomfuster/403495/107 "2007-05-10T13:59:23Z")

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3 pages since last night. Whoa!

I’m not going to bitch and moan. Nor will I curse. I will say this, **Quiddity** , you have annoyed a good many posters with your behavior. (Is that what you want, by the way?) I do not argue that you don’t have a right to post in threads. However I don’t like your hypocrisy.

You tell everyone else not to assume and not to leap to conclusions yet you do it **all the time**. And you thread-shit which in my eyes is possibly one of the most annoying things around here.

I’m asking you nicely - please tone it down. Cut it back. It’s gotten to the point where I flinch when I \*see you \*in a thread because whatever you are going to say is going to derail the whole thread. We’ll all be talking about something completely entertaining and then you come and take a big giant dump in the middle of the thread and all the other Dopers can’t help but point and stare and chatter about it. End of thread.

Could you possibly consider cutting back the venom a bit? Because for all you say how nice you are, your posts come out rude, condescending, mean, and bitter.

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**Author:** ![Hamadryad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6de8d8/32.png) [@Hamadryad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamadryad)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-it-is-shes-been-asking-for-it-the-pitting-of-quiddity-glomfuster/403495/108 "2007-05-10T14:00:30Z")

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[QUOTE=Quiddity Glomfuster]  
It’s pretty funny to see people use grade-school insults and then call me ‘immature’. Here’s a link for you that may help you in future, should you wish to use grownup words to insult someone; [Shakespearen Insults](http://petelevin.com/shakespeare.htm)  
Or, you can go for ‘and she’a banana-nosed doody-head’ if you want to continue in the same mode you started in.  
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You’re being bitchy…what are you, on the rag? HAW! HAW! HAW!

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**Author:** ![Hugh\_Jass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/4da419/32.png) [@Hugh\_Jass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hugh_Jass)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-it-is-shes-been-asking-for-it-the-pitting-of-quiddity-glomfuster/403495/109 "2007-05-10T14:09:26Z")

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QG, i rarely participate in Pit threads. Other than a post about the Spiderman DVD, this may be my only posting to the pit. I was surprised to see you being pitted because I have generally agreed with many of your non-Pit posts. So that’s why I read the whole thread with interest. I suspect you will disregard what I’m going to say, but I need to get it off my chest: You come across as a distinctly unpleasant person.

You said you changed the way you dealt with people IRL. When this thread has died and your knickers are no longer in a twist, I hope you give a moment’s thought to how you are perceived.

Best of luck to you.

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**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-it-is-shes-been-asking-for-it-the-pitting-of-quiddity-glomfuster/403495/110 "2007-05-10T14:09:48Z")

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[QUOTE=dahfisheroo]  
Nah, she uses phrases like “how in heavens name,” “glitch,” and “displeased.” Older vocab, good grasp of English and grammar, rarely uses any younger phrasing. If she’s younger, perhaps she was home schooled by older religious conservative, or a good Catholic school.

Just because she is emotionally and socially retarded, doesn’t preclude her from being older.

ETA- the old spinster, passive aggressive librarian is how she reads to me.  
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Nope. You need a Masters degree to become a librarian. (From an old spinster who once wanted to be one. And I can be passive & aggressive–just not simultaneously.)

I, too, test well. But those papyri crumbled to dust a long time ago & I’ve moved on. (At least I _do_ work with scientists.!)

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**Author:** ![HazelNutCoffee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@HazelNutCoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HazelNutCoffee)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-it-is-shes-been-asking-for-it-the-pitting-of-quiddity-glomfuster/403495/111 "2007-05-10T14:14:06Z")

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[QUOTE=Anaamika]  
I’m not going to bitch and moan. Nor will I curse. I will say this, **Quiddity** , you have annoyed a good many posters with your behavior. (Is that what you want, by the way?) I do not argue that you don’t have a right to post in threads. However I don’t like your hypocrisy.

You tell everyone else not to assume and not to leap to conclusions yet you do it **all the time**. And you thread-shit which in my eyes is possibly one of the most annoying things around here.

I’m asking you nicely - please tone it down. Cut it back. It’s gotten to the point where I flinch when I \*see you \*in a thread because whatever you are going to say is going to derail the whole thread. We’ll all be talking about something completely entertaining and then you come and take a big giant dump in the middle of the thread and all the other Dopers can’t help but point and stare and chatter about it. End of thread.

Could you possibly consider cutting back the venom a bit? Because for all you say how nice you are, your posts come out rude, condescending, mean, and bitter.  
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What she said. I’ve never engaged with you personally on these boards, but like **'mika** , just seeing your name in a thread makes me cringe nowadays. Initially in the thread about late people I thought you were an unusally thoughtful and considerate person for thinking about how some people might have difficulty being on time because of certain issues, but then you took it to the other extreme and ended up sounding how you always seem to end up sounding - self-righteous and annoying. Your attempts to empathize with the “victim” are expressed with hostility and belligerence, which strikes me as somewhat ironic.

Hey, if you don’t care that you’re pissing off a majority of posters here, then whatever. Carry on. Supply more material for the Pit, by all means.

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**Author:** ![hawthorne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@hawthorne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hawthorne)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-it-is-shes-been-asking-for-it-the-pitting-of-quiddity-glomfuster/403495/112 "2007-05-10T14:14:07Z")

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I don’t think much of **Quiddity Glomfuster** , but this reminds me of the reaction against **Notthemama** (now **Duck Duck Goose** ). It’s not totally without foundation, but it’s mostly lame, cliquish bitching. And it has something to do with her gender.

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-it-is-shes-been-asking-for-it-the-pitting-of-quiddity-glomfuster/403495/113 "2007-05-10T14:17:47Z")

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[QUOTE=hawthorne]  
It’s not totally without foundation, but it’s mostly lame, cliquish bitching. And it has something to do with her gender.  
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Cite?

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**Author:** ![Quiddity\_Glomfuster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/c4cdca/32.png) [@Quiddity\_Glomfuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quiddity_Glomfuster)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-it-is-shes-been-asking-for-it-the-pitting-of-quiddity-glomfuster/403495/114 "2007-05-10T14:25:53Z")

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[QUOTE=Anaamika]

You tell everyone else not to assume and not to leap to conclusions yet you do it **all the time**.  
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Cite

> [@](#):
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> We’ll all be talking about something completely entertaining and then you come and take a big giant dump in the middle of the thread

Cite

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**Author:** ![catsix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e19b73/32.png) [@catsix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/catsix)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-it-is-shes-been-asking-for-it-the-pitting-of-quiddity-glomfuster/403495/115 "2007-05-10T14:28:51Z")

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**Quiddity** , until this thread I never really considered whether you were male or female, but I thought you were a sanctimonious, holier-than-thou, pompous asshole who really needed to get over yourself.

Now the only thing that’s changed is that I also see that you have an incredibly strong ability to delude yourself into believing that you are disliked because you’re female. You’re disliked because of your attitude.

So, really, it’s not what’s between your legs. It’s what comes out of your mouth.

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**Author:** ![Quiddity\_Glomfuster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/c4cdca/32.png) [@Quiddity\_Glomfuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quiddity_Glomfuster)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-it-is-shes-been-asking-for-it-the-pitting-of-quiddity-glomfuster/403495/116 "2007-05-10T14:37:33Z")

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[QUOTE=Hugh Jass]  
QG, i rarely participate in Pit threads. Other than a post about the Spiderman DVD, this may be my only posting to the pit. I was surprised to see you being pitted because I have generally agreed with many of your non-Pit posts.  
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Then the perception you have of my personality is immaterial, is it not?

> [@](#):
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> You said you changed the way you dealt with people IRL. When this thread has died and your knickers are no longer in a twist, I hope you give a moment’s thought to how you are perceived.

There is not a human living or dead who has been universally liked. I’ve seen posters whose posts I enjoy vilified here and posters whose posts don’t impress me praised to the skies.  
Not everybody shares the same opinion or likes the same thing so it’s a fool’s exercise to try to please everyone. I say what I say; if you like what you see, great. If not, well that’s life.

If nobody at all ever liked me in person or liked what I wrote, yes, I’d think there’s reasons to re-examine my life. But I’ve been fortunate to earn the good opinion of people I like and admire IRL and even have some fans on SDMB, so I just put it down to the fact that people like different sorts of people and I’m not to everybody’s taste. That’s ok. That’s as it should be.

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**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-it-is-shes-been-asking-for-it-the-pitting-of-quiddity-glomfuster/403495/117 "2007-05-10T14:39:13Z")

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[QUOTE=Quiddity Glomfuster]  
I fully understand why some people think that way. It is not my goal in life to get the planet to love me.  
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There’s a world of difference between trying to get the planet to love you and trying to not come off as a rather unpleasant person to a large number of reasonable, temperate, thoughtful dopers. You have managed to garner some rather negative regard from a lot of folks not known for their tendency to be argumentative or confrontational.

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**Author:** ![Crotalus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crotalus/32/41_2.png) [@Crotalus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crotalus)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-it-is-shes-been-asking-for-it-the-pitting-of-quiddity-glomfuster/403495/118 "2007-05-10T14:42:42Z")

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[QUOTE=Quiddity Glomfuster]  
Not really. It comes from having watched people be hurt by thinking they had online ‘friends’ that turned out not to be so. The people who type may be real, but can you promise and guarantee me that every poster posts honestly? Do you really think you or I or anyone would be well-served to believe that everyone they deal with is honest? I take your word that you are happy about the posters you’ve met and it’s great that many people have met and found pleasant company but I haven’t had that experience and so I’m wary. And I’m not in the least insulted if people are wary of me when they haven’t met me. I think it’s wise to be cautious.  
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So caution and wisdom equate to treating everyone on this message board as though they are entities which only exist when you are logged on? That seems pretty odd. I find it enjoyable to keep in mind the actual truth: I’m communicating with real people. My ability to get to know them is both enhanced and constrained by the medium, but I see no risk at all in assuming that everyone here is what they seem to be. I’ve seen a few “outings” of people who had misrepresented themselves. These have certainly had no adverse impact on me, and in fact provided some entertainment.

I’m sure you don’t care, but I’ll offer my perception of you, since we’re in a Pit thread of which you’re the subject. Your posts seem to me as though your intention is to mildly annoy people. I don’t know why anyone would want to do that, but that’s how it appears to me. You are also remarkably weaselly when pressed. You also appear to have very little knowledge or expertise on anything, coupled with a constant need to expound. That’s an unfortunate combination.

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**Author:** ![athelas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5e9695/32.png) [@athelas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/athelas)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-it-is-shes-been-asking-for-it-the-pitting-of-quiddity-glomfuster/403495/119 "2007-05-10T14:44:16Z")

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[QUOTE=Quiddity Glomfuster]  
Cite [re: conclusion-leaping]  
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Well, the most obvious example is your unquestioning assumption that **tashabot** was somehow the victim of an evil overbearing government, without bothering to find out what she actually said. As it turns out, of course, the response was quite understandable (and **tashabot** was utterly without integrity), but that doesn’t happen to jibe with your prejudices, so you just knee-jerked.

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**Author:** ![Quiddity\_Glomfuster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/c4cdca/32.png) [@Quiddity\_Glomfuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quiddity_Glomfuster)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-it-is-shes-been-asking-for-it-the-pitting-of-quiddity-glomfuster/403495/120 "2007-05-10T14:46:33Z")

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[QUOTE=Qadgop the Mercotan]  
There’s a world of difference between trying to get the planet to love you and trying to not come off as a rather unpleasant person to a large number of reasonable, temperate, thoughtful dopers. You have managed to garner some rather negative regard from a lot of folks not known for their tendency to be argumentative or confrontational.  
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Elsewhere, once, I was reminded rather vehemently that ‘the majority of posters’ don’t post in the Pit and a that lot of posters (possibly ‘the majority’) actively avoid it. I was counseled not to let the Pit experience colour my impression of SDMB overall. I have taken that advice and found it to be bang on.

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