# Here it is, she's been asking for it, the pitting of Quiddity Glomfuster **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 10, 2007, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-it-is-shes-been-asking-for-it-the-pitting-of-quiddity-glomfuster/403495 "2007-05-10T02:31:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Quiddity\_Glomfuster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/c4cdca/32.png) [@Quiddity\_Glomfuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quiddity_Glomfuster)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-it-is-shes-been-asking-for-it-the-pitting-of-quiddity-glomfuster/403495/141 "2007-05-10T15:44:46Z")
[QUOTE=Cervaise] your ridiculously rigid moral pronouncements [/quote] For instance? > [@](#): > > the intelligent person knows when to say “I don’t know” and “I guess I was wrong about that.” As far as I can tell, you have never done this, and I find that extremely telling. I know what I don’t know. I don’t post about things I don’t know about. And if you look above, you’ll see that I do indeed acknowledge when I’m mistaken. I try to make every effort to ensure I’m posting correct information. I’ll frequently double-check things before I post and have often found that new information has come out since the last time I learned about something so I post the new information I’ve found. Of course, when it comes to posting opinions about what people post about their own lives, it’s pretty hard to verify. ---
**Author:** ![nashiitashii](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7c8e57/32.png) [@nashiitashii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nashiitashii)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-it-is-shes-been-asking-for-it-the-pitting-of-quiddity-glomfuster/403495/142 "2007-05-10T15:49:48Z")
[QUOTE=Anaamika] It’s gotten to the point where I flinch when I \*see you \*in a thread because whatever you are going to say is going to derail the whole thread. We’ll all be talking about something completely entertaining and then you come and take a big giant dump in the middle of the thread and all the other Dopers can’t help but point and stare and chatter about it. End of thread. [/QUOTE] I groan inwardly every time I see QG’s username in a thread specifically because of the way she handled herself in the “punctuality” thread, but it’s been reinforced any time she’s repeated the “I have a completely different (and often unlikely) explanation and I have no room for any other idea to be valid” response in other threads. It really doesn’t help that a lot of comments are written in a tone that is intended to belittle people with differing opinions, including smileys that emphasize that tone. Oh, and don’t forget the near histrionic “wah, people are treating my opinions badly because I’m female!” or “I’m so smart that I have to dumb myself down to be understood!” comments. You’re not the only one who’s around people that are not as smart as you’d hoped they’d be, but you do seem to be the only one who has to mention it. It is kind of entertaining to see exactly HOW someone amasses over 2,000 posts in such a short period of time, though. Sometimes there’s a quality post, but it’s so rare that wading through all the crap is pointless. ---
**Author:** ![fachverwirrt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/94ad74/32.png) [@fachverwirrt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fachverwirrt)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-it-is-shes-been-asking-for-it-the-pitting-of-quiddity-glomfuster/403495/143 "2007-05-10T15:49:58Z")
[QUOTE=Quiddity Glomfuster] Oh good lord! I posted a reply based on the only information I had at the time! Zounds, what temerity! [/QUOTE] Thereby making an assumption and leaping to a conclusion. ---
**Author:** ![Sarahfeena](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarahfeena/32/519_2.png) [@Sarahfeena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarahfeena)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-it-is-shes-been-asking-for-it-the-pitting-of-quiddity-glomfuster/403495/144 "2007-05-10T15:51:53Z")
**Cervaise** , that was very well-said, and a very accurate description of the development of my own opinion of **Quiddity**. I had the same opinion of her that you did at first, and my opinion slowly deteriorated. And, **Quiddity** , I am with **Qadgop** when he says he doesn’t expect anyone to do anything differently. If you decide to examine yourself and try to modify your behavior, don’t do it for us. Do it for yourself. Really. ---
**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-it-is-shes-been-asking-for-it-the-pitting-of-quiddity-glomfuster/403495/145 "2007-05-10T15:52:23Z")
[QUOTE=Quiddity Glomfuster] Um, no. I figured that just by the outlandishness of the statement it would be obvious that it’s tossed out tongue-in-cheek. [/quote] How interesting. Isn’t your complaint that people in the Pit tend to go for the outlandish mean statements, rather than just simple meanness? I have to admit I don’t recall your posts as much as other people here are able to; what about other people’s outlandishness means it’s clearly an insult, when yours is mere joking? > [@](#): > > It seems a concept too difficult for some to grasp that there are degrees of meanness and I’m anti- the extreme degree. It seems to difficult a concept for you to grasp that I am a seperate person. I said you were an “unneeded meanness crusader”, not a meanness crusader. I’m perfectly able to understand that point. My thought was that deliberately attempting to provoke someone would fall under that “extreme degree”; but hey, if you were just joking, no worries. ---
**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-it-is-shes-been-asking-for-it-the-pitting-of-quiddity-glomfuster/403495/146 "2007-05-10T15:53:06Z")
> [@Cervaise](#): > > your ridiculously rigid moral pronouncements [QUOTE=Quiddity Glomfuster] For instance? [/quote] You called people who post in the Pit vultures and blackbirds picking at people, even though I’ve found you to be as much of a pecker (sic) as anyone. You declare that the Pit is full of horrendous cruelty, whilst being an active participant in the festivities. It’s like you don’t want people to enjoy a good rant-- you take a crap on it, which is, in turn, you being that which you claim to despise. If you were always nice to everyone and never slung shit around, you’d be creditable when you criticize others for slinging shit. But you’re not. You’re a smart woman, so I think you must recognize this inconsistency. I’d like to see you address it, because for me it’s the source of my dislike of your postings: your double standard, so avidly yet arbitrarily enacted. When you’re not doing that particular thing, I like you just fine… it’s just that you do it so often. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-it-is-shes-been-asking-for-it-the-pitting-of-quiddity-glomfuster/403495/147 "2007-05-10T15:57:25Z")
[QUOTE=Cervaise] I am repeating and emphasizing this statement. **QG** , when you showed up, I initially liked you quite a bit. Your username is extremely amusing, and you had a devil-may-care attitude that I found appealing. But then your posts began to accumulate, and your attitude, and personality, coalesced. [snip] I started out as a fan. You did not rub me wrong at the outset; I am not someone who decided you were an enemy from day one. But you **have** lost me. Slowly. Incrementally. Post by post. If you choose to reflect on this, it would be to your betterment. [/QUOTE] Seconded, in every particular. Not that I expect your post, any more than those of **QtM** or the legion of other sensible, nonhostile Dopers who have weighed in, to penetrate her armor of immaculate self-righteousness. ---
**Author:** ![Quiddity\_Glomfuster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/c4cdca/32.png) [@Quiddity\_Glomfuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quiddity_Glomfuster)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-it-is-shes-been-asking-for-it-the-pitting-of-quiddity-glomfuster/403495/148 "2007-05-10T15:58:15Z")
[QUOTE=Sarahfeena] I have never seen anyone treated differently on this board because they are female. Not you, not anyone. I would suggest that you climb off of that horse, because no one is going to buy it, and it makes you look whiny and defensive. [/quote] There’s another thread where people admit to treating posters differently based on their gender. I had a quick look for it but missed it - it’s about whether posters should have a gender indicator. > [@](#): > > What IS relevant is your tone, your attitude, the impression you give others about what _you_ think of _them_ . I don’t even know where to start here. If people are ticked because I don’t love them all, oh well. If I say that someone’s post is illogical, well, that’s because I think they’re being illogical. I understand they won’t like that and that they’ll consider it ‘condescending’, etc. It’s not the point. If we’re debating, we’re debating; feelings are moot. You debate well or you don’t. You write well or you don’t. Some posters awe me with their eloquence. > [@](#): > > This is a place for exchanges of ideas…it’s not a place for you to vent your frustrations that no one has ever understood how damn smart you are. Didn’t say that or anything like that. I said they did know how smart I was. I though I was just like everybody else. That is no end of trouble when others think you’re smarter than them and you don’t. I expected them to understand stuff they didn’t and that upset them. I was way too old when I found out why. I should’ve been told when I was in grade school; then I wouldn’t have upset people by expecting them to keep up. > [@](#): > > If you want people to 1) think you are smart and 2) respect what you have to say, you have to act accordingly towards them. It’s not difficult. You say that people are intimidated by you…but I’m not sure you are reading that correctly, in all seriousness. Don’t need to ‘read’ it. Been told it. Thought it was hilarious - nothing about me is intimidating, IMHO. ---
**Author:** ![Ponder\_Stibbons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponder_stibbons/32/343_2.png) [@Ponder\_Stibbons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponder_Stibbons)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-it-is-shes-been-asking-for-it-the-pitting-of-quiddity-glomfuster/403495/149 "2007-05-10T16:00:57Z")
[QUOTE=EddyTeddyFreddy] … Not that I expect your post, any more than those of **QtM** or the legion of other sensible, nonhostile Dopers who have weighed in, to penetrate her armor of immaculate self-righteousness. [/QUOTE] I think everyone’s going about this from the wrong angle. Maybe QG really _is_ better than all of us. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-it-is-shes-been-asking-for-it-the-pitting-of-quiddity-glomfuster/403495/150 "2007-05-10T16:04:29Z")
[QUOTE=Ponder Stibbons] I think everyone’s going about this from the wrong angle. Maybe QG really _is_ better than all of us. [/QUOTE] Dude. You just blew my _mind_. ---
**Author:** ![FordPrefect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e99b99/32.png) [@FordPrefect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FordPrefect)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-it-is-shes-been-asking-for-it-the-pitting-of-quiddity-glomfuster/403495/151 "2007-05-10T16:06:14Z")
[QUOTE=Quiddity Glomfuster] Oh good lord! I posted a reply based on the only information I had at the time! Zounds, what temerity! [/QUOTE] Your post: [QUOTE=Quiddity Glomfuster] Every time I hear about crap like this, I have visions of Soviet Russia. I just can’t believe that Americans have allowed their nation to deteriorate to that degree. [/QUOTE] :rolleyes: [QUOTE=Ponder Stibbons] I think everyone’s going about this from the wrong angle. Maybe QG really _is_ better than all of us. [/QUOTE] I don’t want to live in a world like that :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Sarahfeena](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarahfeena/32/519_2.png) [@Sarahfeena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarahfeena)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-it-is-shes-been-asking-for-it-the-pitting-of-quiddity-glomfuster/403495/152 "2007-05-10T16:10:08Z")
[QUOTE=Quiddity Glomfuster] There’s another thread where people admit to treating posters differently based on their gender. I had a quick look for it but missed it - it’s about whether posters should have a gender indicator. [/QUOTE] I saw that. Two people mentioned they thought they get treated differently because they are women (one of those people was you). No one admitted treating posters differently because of their sex. . > [@](#): > > I don’t even know where to start here. If people are ticked because I don’t love them all, oh well. If I say that someone’s post is illogical, well, that’s because I think they’re being illogical. I understand they won’t like that and that they’ll consider it ‘condescending’, etc. It’s not the point. If we’re debating, we’re debating; feelings are moot. You debate well or you don’t. You write well or you don’t. Some posters awe me with their eloquence. Part of debating well is treating the other participants with respect. > [@](#): > > Didn’t say that or anything like that. I said they did know how smart I was. I though I was just like everybody else. That is no end of trouble when others think you’re smarter than them and you don’t. I expected them to understand stuff they didn’t and that upset them. I was way too old when I found out why. I should’ve been told when I was in grade school; then I wouldn’t have upset people by expecting them to keep up. Sorry, my bad. What I meant to say was “…it’s not a place for you to vent your frustrations that **no one has ever understood you because you are so damn smart**.” I am surprised that someone as smart as you never realized you were putting people off. You may have brains, but your sensitivity meter really needs some adjustment. Seriously. If you were putting people off in real life, and didn’t know it, and you put people off here, and you don’t know it, maybe you need to work on that. > [@](#): > > Don’t need to ‘read’ it. Been told it. Thought it was hilarious - nothing about me is intimidating, IMHO. In your opinion! That IS hilarious. If people are telling you that you are intimidating, and people are telling you you are condescending, and people are telling you you are arrogant, it doesn’t MATTER what _your_ opinion is! Don’t you get it? It’s OTHER PEOPLES’ PERCEPTIONS THAT SHOULD BE TELLING YOU WHAT IS GOING ON HERE. You can’t hear yourself talk, and you can’t for whatever reason see the tone in your writing. ---
**Author:** ![crazyjoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f14d63/32.png) [@crazyjoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crazyjoe)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-it-is-shes-been-asking-for-it-the-pitting-of-quiddity-glomfuster/403495/153 "2007-05-10T16:11:17Z")
[QUOTE=Cervaise] I am repeating and emphasizing this statement. **QG** , when you showed up, I initially liked you quite a bit. Your username is extremely amusing, and you had a devil-may-care attitude that I found appealing. But then your posts began to accumulate, and your attitude, and personality, coalesced. You **are** arrogant. You **are** irritating. You **are** condescending. And I have grown to dread seeing your posts because for every one that’s clever and funny and interesting, you have one where you’re sermonizing from your imagined ivory tower, unaware that your windows are closed and you aren’t as smart as you think you are. Your ability to sidetrack and sometimes trainwreck threads with your ridiculously rigid moral pronouncements is, frankly, stunning. One’s character, I believe, is truly exposed when one is revealed to be wrong about something. The difference between someone who is _smart_ and one who is _intelligent_ is that the intelligent person knows when to say “I don’t know” and “I guess I was wrong about that.” As far as I can tell, you have never done this, and I find that extremely telling. I started out as a fan. You did not rub me wrong at the outset; I am not someone who decided you were an enemy from day one. But you **have** lost me. Slowly. Incrementally. Post by post. If you choose to reflect on this, it would be to your betterment. [/QUOTE] Just joining in the chorus here to agree with Cervaise. Not that it will make any difference. Whether or not you have life experience and smarts or not, it is NOT in evidence here on the boards. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-it-is-shes-been-asking-for-it-the-pitting-of-quiddity-glomfuster/403495/154 "2007-05-10T16:40:36Z")
Despite a weak OP from **What Exit?** , who really does not have the mean streak necessary to start a pit thread, this topic has grown nicely. I’ve dropped in and out, and certainly have not read all 153 posts, but I paid my $7.98 and am entitled to impart my 2 pence… **QG** is a name I noticed. I only notice names when posts are insightful, witty, share a passion (such as Yankees baseball and/or Giants football), or are incredibly off-putting. **QG** was in that last category. She may have many posts in many threads that I’ve read that never registered, but when the stupid flows, it is a tsunami. ---
**Author:** ![Aangelica](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b2d939/32.png) [@Aangelica](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aangelica)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-it-is-shes-been-asking-for-it-the-pitting-of-quiddity-glomfuster/403495/155 "2007-05-10T16:41:25Z")
Not that I think mentioning it will do the tiniest bit of good, but I’m also with **Cervaise** on this one. It’s long since gotten to the point where I see **QG** ’s name and reflexively skip her post. It’s also long since gotten to the point where I see her name in a post and start bracing myself for the threadshit and/or hijack. It’s a sad comment on your posting when your very name makes people anticipate threadshitting or hijacking, wouldn’t you say? ---
**Author:** ![TVeblen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4bbf92/32.png) [@TVeblen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TVeblen)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-it-is-shes-been-asking-for-it-the-pitting-of-quiddity-glomfuster/403495/156 "2007-05-10T16:50:52Z")
I don’t mind **Quiddity** because she’s hilarious. Unconsciously, of course, but that just makes it funnier. A person would be hard pressed to write satirical dialogue more scathing than what she spews so spontaneously. Just sit back and enjoy the show. She’s pompous, ego-bloated and dense but man, her output is funny. She doesn’t even _know_ how pitilessly she reveals herself. Great stuff. But then again, loons amuse me. ---
**Author:** ![jali](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecae2f/32.png) [@jali](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jali)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-it-is-shes-been-asking-for-it-the-pitting-of-quiddity-glomfuster/403495/157 "2007-05-10T16:56:03Z")
> [@](#): > > … Or, in case the big words hurt your eyes, it means being hateful and nasty and horrible and beastly, not just plain ol’ mean… That was really unneccesarily rude. Isn’t this exactly what you criticize others for doing? I don’t think you’re “Smarter Than a 5th Grader” at this point, but maybe that’s genius level in your eyes. ---
**Author:** ![Crotalus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crotalus/32/41_2.png) [@Crotalus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crotalus)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-it-is-shes-been-asking-for-it-the-pitting-of-quiddity-glomfuster/403495/158 "2007-05-10T16:59:30Z")
[QUOTE=Quiddity Glomfuster] There’s another thread where people admit to treating posters differently based on their gender. I had a quick look for it but missed it - it’s about whether posters should have a gender indicator. \ [/QUOTE] I know **Sarahfeena** already called you on this one, but I feel the need to chime in. Here is a chance for you, **QG** , to demonstrate straightforwardness or weaseltude for all to see and judge. You say there’s a thread where posters admit to treating posters differently because of their gender. [Here it is.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=420257) No one in that thread said that. Two, including you, said that they believed that they were treated differently. Several people made joking references to needing to know gender so that they could choose the proper words with which to insult someone. You also said you couldn’t find it after a quick look despite the fact that you had posted in it recently. Do you think that your characterization of that thread was accurate? Do you usually have trouble finding threads that are on the front page of a forum which contain your own posts? ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-it-is-shes-been-asking-for-it-the-pitting-of-quiddity-glomfuster/403495/159 "2007-05-10T17:05:47Z")
To my knowledge, I have never been pitted. I’m sure I would have been informed if I had. Anyway, if I had and this guy posted and said this: [QUOTE=Qadgop the Mercotan] I’d encourage **QG** to ponder why it is that she is perceived this way by a lot of otherwise level-headed folks here, and encourage her also to consider that it may be a flaw in the way she communicates, not a flaw in all those disparate posters. When my nurses tell me I’m regularly acting curmudgeonly, abrupt, and condescending, I don’t start telling them why their perceptions are wrong, I look at my own behavior to see how it is that I’m conveying such a message, even (especially) when I don’t think such is my intent. [/QUOTE] I think I’d stop and do exactly what he said to do. [sub]Yes, QtM, I’m still a fangirl, coonskin cap or no[/sub] ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-it-is-shes-been-asking-for-it-the-pitting-of-quiddity-glomfuster/403495/160 "2007-05-10T17:23:56Z")
Don’t let these people fool you. Every single person posting here is a complete misogynist, even the women. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-it-is-shes-been-asking-for-it-the-pitting-of-quiddity-glomfuster/403495.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/here-it-is-shes-been-asking-for-it-the-pitting-of-quiddity-glomfuster/403495.md?page=9)