# Heres my 0.2c Lute Skywatcher

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-my-0-2c-lute-skywatcher/622018>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 15, 2012, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-my-0-2c-lute-skywatcher/622018 "2012-05-15T20:37:49Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2012, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-my-0-2c-lute-skywatcher/622018/281 "2012-05-21T01:07:32Z")

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> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#):
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> Alrighty then - carry on. 🙂
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> Some days I’m really not sure about that - I say something brilliant (shut up! It happens!) and no one notices, or I say something idiotic, and no one notices (that’s okay when that happens).

Just yesterday, someone replied to a witticism that I’d made days before, and that I assumed no one had gotten. (So I’m betting your last brilliant comment had us all in awe, to the extent that any response would be drivel compared to your insightful-yet-amusing post.)

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2012, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-my-0-2c-lute-skywatcher/622018/282 "2012-05-21T02:51:29Z")

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> [@digs](#):
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> Just yesterday, someone replied to a witticism that I’d made days before, and that I assumed no one had gotten. (So I’m betting your last brilliant comment had us all in awe, to the extent that any response would be drivel compared to your insightful-yet-amusing post.)

That’s probably it. 🙂

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**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2012, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-my-0-2c-lute-skywatcher/622018/283 "2012-08-16T19:28:28Z")

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Bumping this based on some of [the recent discussion going on over here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=15391046), specifically regarding the shovel that Lute finds impossible to put down. Turns out that he’s gone to the Doper Donation well in the past, also for pet problems. Guy just can’t figure out how to support his pets on his own, it seems.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2012, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-my-0-2c-lute-skywatcher/622018/284 "2012-08-16T19:31:46Z")

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What part of

> [@I've been debating whether or not to share this with the board.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-been-debating-whether-or-not-to-share-this-with-the-board/631469/50):
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> One of the conditions set by my sister was to draw up a plan for being be self-reliant when these things happen.

do you not understand?

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**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2012, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-my-0-2c-lute-skywatcher/622018/285 "2012-08-16T19:33:18Z")

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Didn’t you just adopt yet another animal that you apparently can’t afford to take care of?

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2012, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-my-0-2c-lute-skywatcher/622018/286 "2012-08-16T19:36:46Z")

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Things are different now. I’ve been working an average of 20 hours overtime per month since the end of May and have an actual savings account as opposed to trying to keep money in checking and relying on my annual tax refund. I keep forgetting I even have a retirement account that can be borrowed against until the occasional (quarterly?) statement arrives.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2012, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-my-0-2c-lute-skywatcher/622018/287 "2012-08-16T19:42:46Z")

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My sister’s requirement of being self-reliant includes not borrowing anywhere, including from my retirement.

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**Author:** ![Cinnamon\_Imp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/58956e/32.png) [@Cinnamon\_Imp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cinnamon_Imp)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2012, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-my-0-2c-lute-skywatcher/622018/288 "2012-08-16T19:44:18Z")

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> [@Lute Skywatcher](#):
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> What part of do you not understand?

The part where you seem to require your sister to explain to you how to act like an adult and manage your own money, rather than repeatedly mooching off of strangers (especially when you HAVE the money in another account).

Why aren’t you capable of being responsible by yourself?

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**Author:** ![Cinnamon\_Imp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/58956e/32.png) [@Cinnamon\_Imp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cinnamon_Imp)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2012, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-my-0-2c-lute-skywatcher/622018/289 "2012-08-16T19:50:14Z")

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> [@Lute Skywatcher](#):
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> My sister’s requirement of being self-reliant includes not borrowing anywhere, including from my retirement.

I still don’t understand why you think we should care about what your sister has to say. What’s her relevance to the Dope? Did she give you the animals? Does she hold power of attorney over your finances?

Where’s your wife in all this, didn’t she enable your begging last time?

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2012, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-my-0-2c-lute-skywatcher/622018/290 "2012-08-16T19:51:58Z")

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It seems to me that **Lute** is at least trying to be more fiscally responsible, so I recommend letting that particular line of questioning go. I just want to know why he feels he needs to keep re-justifying his actions. Stop picking at the scab and just let it go.

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**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2012, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-my-0-2c-lute-skywatcher/622018/291 "2012-08-16T19:54:20Z")

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**Lute** , the fact of the matter is you _had_ money, but you didn’t want to take the tax hit to use it. So instead of taking the financial hit on your savings, you held your hand out and begged. You _had_ money all along. Don’t give me crap about your sister or that you couldn’t access the bank or whatever. You HAD money! Don’t you understand that that is the reason people are pissed?

What you need to do is apologize, return all the money you kept from the second time you begged, and then shut the fuck up. That’s the responsible thing to do.

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**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2012, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-my-0-2c-lute-skywatcher/622018/292 "2012-08-16T19:56:40Z")

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> [@Cinnamon\_Imp](#):
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> Where’s your wife in all this, didn’t she enable your begging last time?

Yeah, I think he said that his wife helped set up the Paypal, or it was going through her Paypal or something.

Lute, are you actually mentally disabled (besides super double depression or whatever you blamed the last time)? If so, just tell us and we’ll let it go.

The problem most people here have with you isn’t that you asked for money when you already had it available. And it’s not because you were fairly withholding with the information on why you needed the money.

It’s because you keep making excuses for your behavior instead of just standing up and saying “I fucked up guys, I’m sorry.” Instead, you make excuse after excuse and lay the blame on others and on your depression and anything else you can think of other than just owning the mistake.

And you also do realize that we’d all mostly forgotten about you until you started that new thread with yet more excuses (“I murdered my kitty 30 years ago, that’s why I suck so bad!”). You just keep on digging.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2012, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-my-0-2c-lute-skywatcher/622018/293 "2012-08-16T19:58:16Z")

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> [@Cinnamon\_Imp](#):
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> Why aren’t you capable of being responsible by yourself?

I’m a fiscal idiot. Seems to run in the family.

There was that time I bought something I needed but had to return it a few minutes later because I realized I had spent the $1.25 or whatever that I also needed to give Metrobus so I could get home.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2012, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-my-0-2c-lute-skywatcher/622018/294 "2012-08-16T20:02:08Z")

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> [@Lute Skywatcher](#):
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> My sister’s requirement of being self-reliant includes not borrowing anywhere, including from my retirement.

How about from people on a message board?

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**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2012, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-my-0-2c-lute-skywatcher/622018/295 "2012-08-16T20:03:43Z")

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> [@Lute Skywatcher](#):
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> There was that time I bought something I needed but had to return it a few minutes later because I realized I had spent the $1.25 or whatever that I also needed to give Metrobus so I could get home.

Was it an animal?

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2012, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-my-0-2c-lute-skywatcher/622018/296 "2012-08-16T20:03:50Z")

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> [@Bob Ducca](#):
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> Lute, are you actually mentally disabled (besides super double depression or whatever you blamed the last time)? If so, just tell us and we’ll let it go.

Yes. Ajustment disorder with Dysthymia and occasional bouts of Major Depression. Attempted suicide in 1990. Spent the summer of '94 in a mental health ward due to being suicidal again.

Wouldn’t be surprised if I also have undiagnosed Aperger’s and mild retardation.

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**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2012, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-my-0-2c-lute-skywatcher/622018/297 "2012-08-16T20:04:03Z")

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That’s not an apology, **Lute**.

Christ Jesus, buddy. Just man up, give an honest apology, return the money, and be done.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2012, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-my-0-2c-lute-skywatcher/622018/298 "2012-08-16T20:04:51Z")

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> [@Bob Ducca](#):
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> Was it an animal?

Heh. No, a canteen. I had just signed up to be a volunteer summer camp counselor.

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**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2012, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-my-0-2c-lute-skywatcher/622018/299 "2012-08-16T20:06:00Z")

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> [@Lute Skywatcher](#):
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> Wouldn’t be surprised if I also have undiagnosed Aperger’s and mild retardation.

I don’t think this would surprise anybody.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2012, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-my-0-2c-lute-skywatcher/622018/300 "2012-08-16T20:10:11Z")

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> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#):
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> That’s not an apology, **Lute**.
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> Christ Jesus, buddy. Just man up, give an honest apology, return the money, and be done.

[Manned up and reutrned the money two months ago.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=654202) Unless you’re referring to the sick kitty, that was almost a year ago; I have no idea who sent what and we’re gone from PayPal.

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