# Heres my 0.2c Lute Skywatcher

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-my-0-2c-lute-skywatcher/622018>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 15, 2012, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-my-0-2c-lute-skywatcher/622018 "2012-05-15T20:37:49Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2012, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-my-0-2c-lute-skywatcher/622018/61 "2012-05-16T01:07:38Z")

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> [@Who\_me\_1](#):
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> Just because his situation didn’t seem a crisis to you doesn’t mean that it didn’t seem that way to him.

What I think most people are pissed at is not that he was overestimating the “crisis”, but that he has the financial ability to pay for it, knows that, and yet is still asking for money. Consider: he’s employed, a homeowner, has multiple retirement accounts, has an unnamed asset that he hasn’t touched in 18 years, and vendor based financing for a new air conditioner is available. He’s got far more financial options than most people do, but the guy isn’t even trying to pay for it himself. That’s what people are pissed about.

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**Author:** ![Who\_me\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/958977/32.png) [@Who\_me\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Who_me_1)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2012, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-my-0-2c-lute-skywatcher/622018/62 "2012-05-16T01:07:40Z")

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> [@coolbyrne](#):
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> The difference is, **Lute** already had options on the table; he was just adding begging on the SDMB to his options. That’s what is upsetting a lot of people.

I understand all that and I’m not saying that the people who are upset are in the wrong to be upset, just that I’m not and posted my view of it.

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**Author:** ![Spud](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spud/32/347_2.png) [@Spud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spud)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2012, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-my-0-2c-lute-skywatcher/622018/63 "2012-05-16T01:26:37Z")

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You guys just don’t get it… don’t you understand, he has bunnies and birds and they can’t possible survive temperatures over 90 degrees. That is exactly why you never see any rabbits or birds outside in the summer… oh… um… sorry.

Glad to see I’m not the only one who went WTF!?! when I read the OP.

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**Author:** ![Astroboy14](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/df705f/32.png) [@Astroboy14](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astroboy14)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2012, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-my-0-2c-lute-skywatcher/622018/64 "2012-05-16T01:26:56Z")

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> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#):
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> I have to pay a whole whack of money to pay for my cat’s teeth fixin’ - who wants to send me money? We can afford it - I just don’t want to pay for it.

If someone sends me a large enough whack o’ money, I can pay off my taxes, send you some cash for the kitty’s tooths… and maybe some left over for hookers and blow!!

Won’t someone think of Astroboy?

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2012, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-my-0-2c-lute-skywatcher/622018/65 "2012-05-16T01:30:24Z")

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> [@Astroboy14](#):
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> If someone sends me a large enough whack o’ money, I can pay off my taxes, send you some cash for the kitty’s tooths… and maybe some left over for hookers and blow!!
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> Won’t someone think of Astroboy?

You, sir, have your priorities exactly backwards.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2012, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-my-0-2c-lute-skywatcher/622018/66 "2012-05-16T01:36:32Z")

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How soon until your membership lapses? Let that go.

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**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2012, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-my-0-2c-lute-skywatcher/622018/67 "2012-05-16T01:38:59Z")

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I too like to help when there is a need. I didn’t have time to donate anything this morning because I had to leave for work a little early. I hate to say it, but I’m glad it worked out that way. I’d be feeling quite duped right now.

I just had to dip into my retirement funds. I hate that it is going to cost me a 10% penalty, but that’s just the breaks. I would never have come here and asked you guys to give me money so I wouldn’t have to touch my own. I’m just flabbergasted.

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**Author:** ![Enola\_Gay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ab097/32.png) [@Enola\_Gay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enola_Gay)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2012, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-my-0-2c-lute-skywatcher/622018/68 "2012-05-16T01:54:34Z")

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I’m starting to regret sending **Fenris** that $900 check for his new 64 gig iPad 3. I mean not having an iPad 3 may not seem like a crisis to some of you, but it is certainly a crisis for **Fenris** and I didn’t want him to have to dip into his inheritance or one of his many trust funds.

I do , however, hope that he appreciates the generosity of dopers and that any monies that go unused will be returned by the end of next month and won’t be applied to that [Diamond Encrusted Bluetooth Headset](http://www.bornrich.com/entry/diamond-encrusted-bluetooth-headset-from-plantronics-worth-50000/) he’s had his eye on.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2012, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-my-0-2c-lute-skywatcher/622018/69 "2012-05-16T01:56:38Z")

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> [@LavenderBlue](#):
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> One of them is for the bunny.

It’s a 401b.

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**Author:** ![that\_darn\_cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/59ef9b/32.png) [@that\_darn\_cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/that_darn_cat)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2012, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-my-0-2c-lute-skywatcher/622018/70 "2012-05-16T02:01:21Z")

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Thassa big bunny, mister.

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**Author:** ![Faruiza](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecd19e/32.png) [@Faruiza](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Faruiza)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2012, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-my-0-2c-lute-skywatcher/622018/71 "2012-05-16T02:11:49Z")

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Anybody who thinks they can argue that this bullshit is an emergency is an absolute pussy. Begging for money from a community (that WILL give it just based on your inclusion in that community) just so you don’t have to spend your own is the lowest, most classless, selfish, entitled, heinous act I’ve witnessed here. People say horrible, crazy things here all the time…DOING something this depraved, well, that’s just beyond.

And another thing, if you have looked at this thread and can’t figure out what we’re on about, and you don’t feel the sting of shame at showing your ass to a stadium full of spectators, you are even worse off than I can imagine.

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**Author:** ![SpaceDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spacedog/32/9932_2.png) [@SpaceDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SpaceDog)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2012, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-my-0-2c-lute-skywatcher/622018/72 "2012-05-16T02:21:29Z")

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What amazes me is that he had the balls to tell the truth (about the reason, the other options and the backup plan). Presuming he is telling the whole truth it, at least, doesn’t seem like he’s out to scam people. He was open and honest about wanting money, and the reasons why – he just has unreasonable expectations.

A scam would have been to post moaning about his lack of AC, his lack of funds and his boiling bunny and wait for the donations to roll in.

So yeah, it was completely inappropriate to do that, but I think you might be being a bit harsh on the guy. He just has his priorities fucked up, or has less of an issue begging for money than some other people.

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**Author:** ![Sierra\_Indigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f0a364/32.png) [@Sierra\_Indigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sierra_Indigo)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2012, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-my-0-2c-lute-skywatcher/622018/73 "2012-05-16T02:22:01Z")

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Oh look at that, the OP requested the thread be closed. Perhaps you should have finished begging your family before trying to rort other posters you lying son of a bitch.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2012, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-my-0-2c-lute-skywatcher/622018/74 "2012-05-16T02:25:37Z")

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FTR, I am a little fucked in the head and the thread was going to be closed anyway. Got the notice four hours earlier.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2012, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-my-0-2c-lute-skywatcher/622018/75 "2012-05-16T02:26:38Z")

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> [@Sierra\_Indigo](#):
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> Oh look at that, the OP requested the thread be closed. Perhaps you should have finished begging your family before trying to rort other posters you lying son of a bitch.

It’s extremely rare for me to report a post, but I also reported the thread and asked that it be closed. I was afraid someone might donate without reading the whole thread.

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**Author:** ![Sierra\_Indigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f0a364/32.png) [@Sierra\_Indigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sierra_Indigo)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2012, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-my-0-2c-lute-skywatcher/622018/76 "2012-05-16T02:31:18Z")

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The mod note said it was closed for 2 reasons, one because the OP had asked for it to be and 2 because the request for money should have been more seriously considered before being granted apparently.

According to the mod notes, other posters reporting it didn’t get a look-in.

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**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2012, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-my-0-2c-lute-skywatcher/622018/77 "2012-05-16T02:38:26Z")

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Just for the record and to make it clear (in case it isn’t): The topic would have been closed at the time it was (or even earlier had I been on) even without the OP requesting it.

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**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2012, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-my-0-2c-lute-skywatcher/622018/78 "2012-05-16T02:39:24Z")

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> It’s extremely rare for me to report a post, but I also reported the thread and asked that it be closed. I was afraid someone might donate without reading the whole thread.

I did as well, suggesting it was approved without full disclosure to the mods.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2012, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-my-0-2c-lute-skywatcher/622018/79 "2012-05-16T02:42:49Z")

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> [@Lute Skywatcher](#):
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> FTR, I am a little fucked in the head and the thread was going to be closed anyway. Got the notice four hours earlier.

Huh. Sounds like you realize it was a bad idea, and more power to you for realizing that.

Rather than let us know that by making an excuse for your bad idea, though, you might be better off saying something like this:

> [@imaginary Lute](#):
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> Okay, guys. Sometimes I have a bout of the crazy, and it looks like this was one of those times. When I was posting, things seemed huge and out of control and I couldn’t imagine how to deal with life, and asking for help just seemed like the right thing to do. But I’ve read what y’all have written, and you’re right: it wasn’t a reasonable request.
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> So, folks who have donated money, I’m sending it back, with an apology. Folks who read my post and were outraged at it, given their own circumstances, I’m sorry; I was in the wrong. Folks engaging in recreational outrage can kiss my ass.

Something along those lines might be good.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2012, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-my-0-2c-lute-skywatcher/622018/80 "2012-05-16T02:45:45Z")

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Recreational outrage would be complaining here about someone mooching on SomethingAwful.

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