# Here's my answer to you MeanOldLady. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 26, 2002, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-my-answer-to-you-meanoldlady/144972 "2002-12-26T15:21:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2002, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-my-answer-to-you-meanoldlady/144972/1 "2002-12-26T15:21:26Z")
Fuck you and the high horse you rode in on. You are too stupid to read, too stupid to understand sarcasm-- I would say too stupid to live, but you still breath, amazingly enough. In [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=152030) you show your ignorance by saying very, very stupid things. I thought that this: > [@](#): > > Oh please. This has nothing to do w/ anybody’s opinion. was the stupidest thing ever posted in a thread asking for people’s opinions. But you have moved beyond stupidity into assholery with this > [@](#): > > All righty, Biggirl, listen up (and then shut up). But wait! There’s more! Here is the best one. The one that shows off your assumption making, ecstasy addled brain for what it is: > [@](#): > > Lux, wherever did you get the idea that Biggirl is colored? I sincerely doubt she is. I don’t know what gave you the idea that you are the new Queen of all Media. You can take your crown and shove it way the fuck up your ass-- not too hard to do seeing as how that’s were your head is to begin with. There you can reign supreme in stupidity. And back the fuck up, bitch. You really don’t know me that well. Idiot. ---
**Author:** ![Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/50afbb/32.png) [@Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duck_Duck_Goose)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2002, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-my-answer-to-you-meanoldlady/144972/2 "2002-12-26T16:19:34Z")
Har. Definitely a nominee for this year’s “Head Up Ass Without Clue” award. > [@](#): > > This has nothing to do w/ anybody’s opinion Hee. And if any more proof was needed, here’s Lux Fiat: > [@](#): > > Biggirl, you have betrayed People of Color Everywhere with your like of popular music. Your willingness to shake your ass is a personal affront to each wanky, music-snob ouroboros who has ever not been invited to a party in middle school. I hope you’re proud of yourself. And here’s MOL’s response: > [@](#): > > Wow, looks like I have a fan. BWAHAHAHAHA!! Cue the space shuttle liftoff sound effect…\* Whoooooshshsh…\* I especially enjoyed the way she totally missed your point about what rap is “for”, like “it’s about rhythm, not lyrics”. And you gave her links, too. I love it. And the way she assumed that you only know what you hear on MTV…I’m enjoying the mental image of our very own Biggirl magically transformed into a Valley Girl fer sure, glued to MTV and singin’ along with “Sk8ter boi”. Haw. Great thread. You go, girl. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Maeglin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@Maeglin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maeglin)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2002, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-my-answer-to-you-meanoldlady/144972/3 "2002-12-26T16:23:49Z")
Raise the roof. Sorry, I couldn’t resist. ---
**Author:** ![Meatros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Meatros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meatros)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2002, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-my-answer-to-you-meanoldlady/144972/4 "2002-12-26T16:33:31Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Biggirl \* > **You are too stupid to read, too stupid to understand sarcasm-- I would say too stupid to live, but you still breath, amazingly enough.** Yeah…um…I just wanted to take issue with this. You are assuming that MeanOldLady is breathing on her _own_ . For all we know she could be on an iron lung, unable to breath on her own. So your statement “too stupid to live”, could indeed very well be the case, she’s just being saved by modern technology.😃 ---
**Author:** ![Missy2U](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3bc359/32.png) [@Missy2U](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Missy2U)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2002, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-my-answer-to-you-meanoldlady/144972/5 "2002-12-26T16:44:29Z")
**Biggirl** , there’s a tear in my eye now after reading that OP - you are now one of my heroes and I love you. Can I be President of your fan club? PLEASE?? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![EasyPhil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e47c2d/32.png) [@EasyPhil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EasyPhil)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2002, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-my-answer-to-you-meanoldlady/144972/6 "2002-12-26T16:46:38Z")
Hey **MeanOldLady** is actually a MixedUpYoungGirl, she’s only 19 years old, and her opinion of music is going to be limited to say the least. The point about lyrics **Biggirl** , went, swooosh, completely over her head. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2002, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-my-answer-to-you-meanoldlady/144972/7 "2002-12-26T17:42:48Z")
I understand that she’s young (didn’t she give **Yookeroo** a bit of her sneer for sniffing that out?) which is why I was being “nice” to her in that thread. (My son, who happens to agree with MOL about pop music, read the thread and wondered why I was being so nice. Made me think about who I’ve snapped in half around these parts.) But she told me to shut up. She told **ME** to shut up! She may _think_ she’s the Queen of All Media-- but I AM the Queen of Sheba and NOBODY talks to me like that. There are no Monarch Notes for threads, but maybe I can make up one just for MOL. Here are a few facts and questions to help her with her reading comprehension skills. [ol] [li] Taste, even musical taste, is subjective.[/li][li] Using the thread in question as your source material:[/li]A–Name the acts that **Biggirl** likes. B–Name the acts that **Biggirl** doesn’t like. C–Name the acts that the other posters said they liked and/or disliked. Show your work. [li] There are many examples of good lyrics in rap. True or False?[/li][li] Who, in the thread in question, said that there are no good lyrics in rap?[/li][li]What is sarcasm? Show an example of sarcasm from the thread.[/ol][/li] EXTRA CREDIT Write a 50 word post detailing who is showing their ass in said thread. Give reasons and quotes. ---
**Author:** ![Meatros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Meatros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meatros)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2002, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-my-answer-to-you-meanoldlady/144972/8 "2002-12-26T17:52:48Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Biggirl \* > \*\*I understand that she’s young (didn’t she give **Yookeroo** a bit of her sneer for sniffing that out?) which is why I was being “nice” to her in that thread. (My son, who happens to agree with MOL about pop music, read the thread and wondered why I was being so nice. Made me think about who I’ve snapped in half around these parts.) > > But she told me to shut up. She told **ME** to shut up! She may _think_ she’s the Queen of All Media-- but I AM the Queen of Sheba and NOBODY talks to me like that. > > There are no Monarch Notes for threads, but maybe I can make up one just for MOL. Here are a few facts and questions to help her with her reading comprehension skills. > [ol] > [li] Taste, even musical taste, is subjective.[/li][li] Using the thread in question as your source material:[/li]A–Name the acts that **Biggirl** likes. > B–Name the acts that **Biggirl** doesn’t like. > C–Name the acts that the other posters said they liked and/or disliked. Show your work. > [li] There are many examples of good lyrics in rap. True or False?[/li][li] Who, in the thread in question, said that there are no good lyrics in rap?[/li][li]What is sarcasm? Show an example of sarcasm from the thread.[/ol][/li] > EXTRA CREDIT > Write a 50 word post detailing who is showing their ass in said thread. Give reasons and quotes. \*\* Aw man, but it’s Christmas! Nobody is supposed to give homework over Christmas break:D ---
**Author:** ![White\_Lightning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@White\_Lightning](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/White_Lightning)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2002, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-my-answer-to-you-meanoldlady/144972/9 "2002-12-26T18:04:15Z")
She was being thick from the get-go, but that comment about **Biggirl** being ‘colored’? That seriously crosses the line. The top task on that worksheet should be “Apologize for being dense and insensitive.” **MeanOldLady** says she’s 19, but she sure doesn’t act it. ---
**Author:** ![Indygrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@Indygrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indygrrl)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2002, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-my-answer-to-you-meanoldlady/144972/10 "2002-12-26T18:16:31Z")
Yay for Biggirl. I was thinking of a retort to MeanOldLady, but you’ve obviously got it under control. I’m still wondering about her use of the word “colored.” Wtf? ---
**Author:** ![Honey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honey/32/5074_2.png) [@Honey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Honey)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2002, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-my-answer-to-you-meanoldlady/144972/11 "2002-12-26T18:42:38Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by White Lightning \* > \*\*She was being thick from the get-go, but that comment about **Biggirl** being ‘colored’? That seriously crosses the line. \*\* Agree. Whenever I hear someone refer to someone else as “colored”, I always reply “What color is he/she? Green?, purple?, blue?, plaid?” ---
**Author:** ![Elza\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Elza\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elza_B)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2002, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-my-answer-to-you-meanoldlady/144972/12 "2002-12-26T18:47:04Z")
I am NOT defending MOL in ANY way whatsoever (I read the thread in question just going ‘huh?’), but my best friend who grew up in a secluded West Virginia town and who doesn’t have a racist or non-sweet bone in her body once made a comment about a ‘colored girl’ that she went to school with. I about fell off of my chair because I have never in my entire life heard anyone use that word. Turns out that was just the word she’d grown up hearing and she’d never heard otherwise. So depending on where MOL grew up, that word may still be in use. Ava ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2002, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-my-answer-to-you-meanoldlady/144972/13 "2002-12-26T18:53:12Z")
To be fair, **Lux** started the Colored stuff. And I don’t think she meant anything by it. Except, perhaps, to leave no doubt about her cluelesness. I never considered Colored derogatory. A little outdated, but a perfectly cromulent word. ---
**Author:** ![lost4life](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c4cdca/32.png) [@lost4life](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lost4life)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2002, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-my-answer-to-you-meanoldlady/144972/14 "2002-12-26T19:02:40Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Biggirl \* > > I never considered Colored derogatory. A little outdated, but a perfectly cromulent word. \*\* It embiggens my soul to hear such words. ---
**Author:** ![B.Pants](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a87d85/32.png) [@B.Pants](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/B.Pants)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2002, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-my-answer-to-you-meanoldlady/144972/15 "2002-12-26T19:29:02Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by EasyPhil \* > \*\*Hey **MeanOldLady** is actually a MixedUpYoungGirl, she’s only 19 years old, and her opinion of music is going to be limited to say the least. The point about lyrics **Biggirl** , went, swooosh, completely over her head. \*\* I’m a 19 year old girl, and I’ll tell you that that whoosh regarding lyrics must’ve gone straight over her head from ignorance, not age. My opinion of music is certainly not limited, and I find it insulting that you would assume anyone’s opinion regarding music is limited due to age, rather than ignorance. Your prejudice is based on age, but that doesn’t make it acceptable. ---
**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2002, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-my-answer-to-you-meanoldlady/144972/16 "2002-12-26T20:13:11Z")
Well, in case this was not clear, MOL is herself a woman “of color”, which is just “colored” for the new millennium. And \*\* Biggirl, \*\* you know you rock, you know she’s a bratty kid that has so very, very, very much to learn in this life. 'tain’t worth it. ---
**Author:** ![EasyPhil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e47c2d/32.png) [@EasyPhil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EasyPhil)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2002, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-my-answer-to-you-meanoldlady/144972/17 "2002-12-26T20:16:24Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by B.Pants \* > \*\*I’m a 19 year old girl, and I’ll tell you that that whoosh regarding lyrics must’ve gone straight over her head from ignorance, not age. My opinion of music is certainly not limited, and I find it insulting that you would assume anyone’s opinion regarding music is limited due to age, rather than ignorance. > > Your prejudice is based on age, but that doesn’t make it acceptable. \*\* Okay, I submit that along with your age comes a certain amount of ignorance. Why? Simple, your experience is limited, you haven’t been on the planet a long time compared to someone that’s twice your age. Your opinion of music may not be limited buy your experience of music more than likely is, unless of course you are the rare person that has access to a diverse musical library and you’ve been listening to all kinds of stuff i.e. all genres from various time periods i.e. 50’s - now, for the last 18 years. If that’s true, then what I’m saying doesn’t apply to you. ---
**Author:** ![EasyPhil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e47c2d/32.png) [@EasyPhil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EasyPhil)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2002, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-my-answer-to-you-meanoldlady/144972/18 "2002-12-26T20:18:26Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Biggirl \* > \*\*To be fair, **Lux** started the Colored stuff. And I don’t think she meant anything by it. Except, perhaps, to leave no doubt about her cluelesness. > > I never considered Colored derogatory. A little outdated, but a perfectly cromulent word. \*\* I somehow read **Lux’s** comment as sarcasm. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2002, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-my-answer-to-you-meanoldlady/144972/19 "2002-12-26T20:34:41Z")
Yes, Lux was being sarcastic. But that’s were MOL got “colored” from. She didn’t realize he was being sarcastic and subsequently showed her cluelessness to all. ---
**Author:** ![Meatros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Meatros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meatros)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2002, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-my-answer-to-you-meanoldlady/144972/20 "2002-12-26T20:40:35Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by EasyPhil \* > \*\*Okay, I submit that along with your age comes a certain amount of ignorance. Why? Simple, your experience is limited, you haven’t been on the planet a long time compared to someone that’s twice your age. Your opinion of music may not be limited buy your experience of music more than likely is, unless of course you are the rare person that has access to a diverse musical library and you’ve been listening to all kinds of stuff i.e. all genres from various time periods i.e. 50’s - now, for the last 18 years. If that’s true, then what I’m saying doesn’t apply to you. \*\* I don’t think you are being fair with your statements. It seems like you are assuming that everyone in an age bracket has similar musical knowledge. This is not true. This is “ageism”. I don’t care how old someone is, if all they have ever listened to is country, then I am not going to listen to whatever they have to say about rap. Ignorance is ignorance, it’s not exclusive to a certain age. Not everyone listens to all types of music either. Experience is also limited to a variety of other factors that have nothing to do with age. A person’s opinion on what makes good music is as equal to anyone else’s opinion on what makes good music. Just because you are older than her, doesn’t mean your musical taste is any better. As for “MeanOldLady”, I don’t think her age is any excuse. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-my-answer-to-you-meanoldlady/144972.md?page=2)