# Here's the attempt to "Swiftboat' Obama **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [August 16, 2012, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-the-attempt-to-swiftboat-obama/631685 "2012-08-16T17:12:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 16
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2012, 11:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-the-attempt-to-swiftboat-obama/631685/301 "2012-08-25T11:57:11Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > They definitely have control, but all media does. And all media releases classified information. Especially the “respectable” media like the NY Times. I don’t see why we’d expect Fox to show more discretion. Because until Fox released his name, it was still a secret. The other news agencies showed discretion. Fox didn’t. Once the name is out there, there’s no secret to keep. Understand? ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2012, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-the-attempt-to-swiftboat-obama/631685/302 "2012-08-25T12:46:06Z")
They had no problem with printing the biggest intelligence leaks in history, most recently the story on the Stuxnet virus. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2012, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-the-attempt-to-swiftboat-obama/631685/303 "2012-08-25T12:54:01Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > They had no problem with printing the biggest intelligence leaks in history, most recently the story on the Stuxnet virus. And why do you consider that acceptable? ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2012, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-the-attempt-to-swiftboat-obama/631685/304 "2012-08-25T13:06:42Z")
It’s not. But the main fault lies with the leakers. The media believe the public has a right to know. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2012, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-the-attempt-to-swiftboat-obama/631685/305 "2012-08-25T13:12:43Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > It’s not. But the main fault lies with the leakers. The media believe the public has a right to know. And yet only Fox did not understand the security implications. ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2012, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-the-attempt-to-swiftboat-obama/631685/306 "2012-08-25T23:42:06Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > I’m not familiar with the case law. When was the last time a journalist or new organization faced legal action due to printing classified information? Seymour Hersh makes his living that kind of thing. I haven’t been following the Julian Assange story lately, but wasn’t he hiding in an Embassy out of fear of being extradited to the US? ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2012, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-the-attempt-to-swiftboat-obama/631685/307 "2012-08-26T00:38:14Z")
> [@Trepa\_Mayfield](#): > > I haven’t been following the Julian Assange story lately, but wasn’t he hiding in an Embassy out of fear of being extradited to the US? Yes. That is, for fear of being extradited to Sweden, but the real problem is that Sweden won’t guarantee not to extradite him to the U.S. ---
**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2012, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-the-attempt-to-swiftboat-obama/631685/308 "2012-08-28T02:36:15Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Yes. That is, for fear of being extradited to Sweden, but the real problem is that Sweden won’t guarantee not to extradite him to the U.S. The U.S. has not charged him with any crime and is not seeking his extradition though. Not yet at least. I don’t know if there is a grand jury or something. ---
**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2012, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-the-attempt-to-swiftboat-obama/631685/309 "2012-08-28T02:37:23Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > It’s not. But the main fault lies with the leakers. The media believe the public has a right to know. Do you believe that? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-the-attempt-to-swiftboat-obama/631685.md?page=15)