# Here's your "all white jury", race hustlers **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 26, 2013, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-your-all-white-jury-race-hustlers/664621 "2013-07-26T20:09:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Terr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-your-all-white-jury-race-hustlers/664621/1 "2013-07-26T20:09:35Z")
[http://www.trbimg.com/img-51f1b2c7/turbine/chi-robin-roberts-juror-b29-20130725/600/600x570](http://www.trbimg.com/img-51f1b2c7/turbine/chi-robin-roberts-juror-b29-20130725/600/600x570) …or how[an all-white jury](http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/07/22/white-people-believe-the-justice-system-is-color-blind-black-people-really-dont/)eventually acquitted Zimmerman for killing Martin. Also at the event was retired judge Greg Mathis, of The Judge Mathis Show, who complained about [the all-white jury](http://www.capitalnewyork.com/article/politics/2013/07/8532115/video-harlem-trayvon-martins-mother-warns-next-incident) that acquitted Zimmerman; Zimmerman had an [all-white female jury](http://wavenewspapers.com/opinion/the_soulvine/article_6ccd7fea-efd7-11e2-a505-0019bb30f31a.html). A black youth is killed by a neighborhood watch volunteer, the police conduct a shoddy investigation, prosecutors put on a bumbling case, and [an all-white jury](http://articles.baltimoresun.com/2013-07-15/news/bs-ed-trayvon-martin-20130715_1_trayvon-martin-george-zimmerman-own-defense) in the South acquits. George Zimmerman skirted justice with [an all-white jury](http://guardianlv.com/2013/07/george-zimmerman-skirts-justice-with-all-white-jury-video/) of his peers which consisted of all women. A jury in Florida failed us. We have not seen a moral failure this grave since a similarly [all-white jury](http://www.theroot.com/views/why-zimmerman-jury-failed-us) in Simi Valley, Calif., in 1992 acquitted the four LAPD officers who beat Rodney King. [The all-white jury](http://www.newsobserver.com/2013/07/20/3041859/ignoring-race-a-mistake.html)’s empathy for Zimmerman resulted in deliberations that were missing an important perspective and voice: those of Trayvon Martin. No fair trial would yield that result. Nearly fifty years after the civil rights movement of the 1960s, our nation still feels that pain of racial tension when trials like Zimmerman’s take center stage on our nation’s media outlets. Our minds fill with questions: Were racial motivations a part of the killing? Were racial motivations a part of[the all-white jury](http://www.virtueonline.org/portal/modules/news/article.php?storyid=17805#.UfLTym0de-c)? What are we to make of an all-white jury, a Hispanic defendant, and an African-American victim? So when [an all-white jury](http://www.nashuatelegraph.com/opinion/perspectives/1011437-474/confronting-americas-racial-divide.html) declared George Zimmerman not guilty in the murder of Trayvon Martin, most white Americans agreed with the verdict, and most black Americans did not. And now an [all white jury](http://www.fightbacknews.org/2013/7/17/winston-salem-rallies-against-zimmerman-verdict) in Sanford, Florida, has found George Zimmerman not guilty for murdering Trayvon Martin ---
**Author:** ![jackdavinci](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackdavinci/32/3259_2.png) [@jackdavinci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackdavinci)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-your-all-white-jury-race-hustlers/664621/2 "2013-07-26T20:22:55Z")
Putting “all white jury” in quotes suggests that it was not, in fact, an all white jury. What point are you really trying to make here? ---
**Author:** ![Terr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-your-all-white-jury-race-hustlers/664621/3 "2013-07-26T20:24:34Z")
> [@jackdavinci](#): > > Putting “all white jury” in quotes suggests that it was not, in fact, an all white jury. What point are you really trying to make here? Putting “all white jury” in quotes suggests that that’s a direct quote from the numerous lying media sources I posted. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-your-all-white-jury-race-hustlers/664621/4 "2013-07-26T20:27:14Z")
I don’t have the bandwidth to open all those links! I’ll just take your word for it. ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-your-all-white-jury-race-hustlers/664621/5 "2013-07-26T20:28:43Z")
The articles\* I read at the time the jury was selected stated outright that the racial makeup of the jury was not released, but that they appeared to be white with possibly one Hispanic member. Fun fact: many questionnaires like the census break down race into two questions: Hispanic or not, and then race. So you can be Caucasian and Hispanic at the same time, for instance. - Real news articles, not blogs and editorials. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-your-all-white-jury-race-hustlers/664621/6 "2013-07-26T20:29:10Z")
> [@Terr](#): > > Putting “all white jury” in quotes suggests that that’s a direct quote from the numerous lying media sources I posted. I assume those “lying media sources” are your links? Did you not notice that they are blogs & opinion pieces? ---
**Author:** ![Rick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9f8e36/32.png) [@Rick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-your-all-white-jury-race-hustlers/664621/7 "2013-07-26T20:33:09Z")
(Juror)B-29 … A prosecutor described her as “black or Hispanic” during jury selection. From here [http://abcnews.go.com/m/story?id=19657766](http://abcnews.go.com/m/story?id=19657766) All white? ---
**Author:** ![Terr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-your-all-white-jury-race-hustlers/664621/8 "2013-07-26T20:34:38Z")
> [@Rick](#): > > (Juror)B-29 … A prosecutor described her as “black or Hispanic” during jury selection. > From here [http://abcnews.go.com/m/story?id=19657766](http://abcnews.go.com/m/story?id=19657766) > > All white? In the OP, I gave 10 examples by race hustling liars describing the jury as “all white”. Do you want more? ---
**Author:** ![Terr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-your-all-white-jury-race-hustlers/664621/9 "2013-07-26T20:37:51Z")
> [@Lute Skywatcher](#): > > I assume those “lying media sources” are your links? Did you not notice that they are blogs & opinion pieces? Is Brian Williams “media” enough for you? Or was [this](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCFte_QsOFs&feature=youtu.be) just his “opinion”? ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-your-all-white-jury-race-hustlers/664621/10 "2013-07-26T20:41:05Z")
What are “race hustlers”? Edit: I’m more concerned about it being all women. Us white bitches are violent, you know. ---
**Author:** ![Ellen\_Cherry](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellen_cherry/32/3600_2.png) [@Ellen\_Cherry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellen_Cherry)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-your-all-white-jury-race-hustlers/664621/11 "2013-07-26T20:42:57Z")
Moving from MPSIMS to BBQ Pit. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-your-all-white-jury-race-hustlers/664621/12 "2013-07-26T20:44:16Z")
OP: On a scale of 1 to 10 (1 being the low end), how serious do you think a problem racism is for the average African-American living in the United States? (If you want to give different answers for geographic regions or socioeconomic status, feel free.) ---
**Author:** ![Terr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-your-all-white-jury-race-hustlers/664621/13 "2013-07-26T20:46:14Z")
> [@Ellen\_Cherry](#): > > Moving from MPSIMS to BBQ Pit. I didn’t post it in the Pit for a reason. Since you moved it without asking me about it, I will just leave it to yapping of idiots. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-your-all-white-jury-race-hustlers/664621/14 "2013-07-26T20:47:43Z")
> [@Terr](#): > > I didn’t post it in the Pit for a reason. Since you moved it without asking me about it, I will just leave it to yapping of idiots. There’s more like you? ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-your-all-white-jury-race-hustlers/664621/15 "2013-07-26T20:49:03Z")
Terr, can I ask why you post here? You clearly don’t like us. Honestly, why do you post here? ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-your-all-white-jury-race-hustlers/664621/16 "2013-07-26T20:50:29Z")
> [@Ferret\_Herder](#): > > What are “race hustlers”? Male prostitutes who work the crowds at marathons and NASCAR rallies. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-your-all-white-jury-race-hustlers/664621/17 "2013-07-26T20:54:25Z")
> [@Ferret\_Herder](#): > > What are “race hustlers”? It’s one of those terms certain people can’t stop using when they’re talking about racial issues. (“Race pimps” is another, and so is “thugs.”) I’m not sure why that is- maybe it’s genetic? ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-your-all-white-jury-race-hustlers/664621/18 "2013-07-26T20:55:05Z")
Everyone seems to forget that it’s the _defendant_ who gets the jury of his peers. Not the victim. The victim has zero constitutional rights. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-your-all-white-jury-race-hustlers/664621/19 "2013-07-26T20:56:11Z")
Are you speaking of the non-white juror who thought that Zimmerman “[got away with murder](http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/25/justice/zimmerman-juror-b29-interview)”? ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-your-all-white-jury-race-hustlers/664621/20 "2013-07-26T21:06:44Z")
> [@Ferret\_Herder](#): > > What are “race hustlers”? It’s what racists call people who point out their racism. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-your-all-white-jury-race-hustlers/664621.md?page=2)