# Here's your "all white jury", race hustlers

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-your-all-white-jury-race-hustlers/664621>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 26, 2013, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-your-all-white-jury-race-hustlers/664621 "2013-07-26T20:09:35Z")\
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**Post date:** [July 30, 2013, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heres-your-all-white-jury-race-hustlers/664621/195 "2013-07-30T16:32:26Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> But you did change my opinion, you most certainly did! I, like many others here, used to think of you as an honest conservative. I still think of you as a conservative.

The problem with your example is that it doesn’t capture the type of change your post was asking for:

> [@elucidator](#):
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> First offer us proof that providing you guys with evidence has ever changed your minds.

This question doesn’t appear to contemplate a “change” in which one becomes further entrenched in the position they hold, since the context of the question was as your response to **Saint Cad** :

> [@What effect did voter-ID laws have in the 2012 election?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-effect-did-voter-id-laws-have-in-the-2012-election/664243/53):
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> Then answer this question:
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> 1. How many citizens over 18 were denied their chance to vote because  
> a) They lack appropriate ID  
> b) They are unable (not merely unwilling) to get the appropriate ID

You replied, “First offer us proof that providing you guys with evidence has ever changed your minds.”

And now you’d like to simultaneously answer that your own ability to change your mind in this manner is shown by your change of thinking I’m an honest conservative to simply thinking I’m a conservative…and giving **Steophan** advice on maintaining his “reputation for integrity and honesty.”

Is that about the size of it?

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