# Heroes 02/16/09 (3-16) "Building 26" (spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 16, 2009, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-02-16-09-3-16-building-26-spoilers/486103 "2009-02-16T15:33:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2009, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-02-16-09-3-16-building-26-spoilers/486103/21 "2009-02-17T16:34:19Z")
What was the point with the India thing? And did Disgruntled Groom say something about a baby? ---
**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2009, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-02-16-09-3-16-building-26-spoilers/486103/22 "2009-02-17T16:41:04Z")
> [@Annie](#): > > Claire: Hey, Comic store geek with awesome bone structure- is that your ability? You know, I’ve been going to comic stores for getting close to 30 years now, and _this_… is the most unrealistic Heroes has ever been. (mind you, I’m a comic geek who was on the swim team in high school (and still swim); you never see those guys working at comic book stores) (or Seth Green. or Breckin Meyer. it’s always the neckbeardies or ponytailers, often with cheeto-dust fingers and/or mountain dew breath) edit: **The Point of India:** “We don’t know what to do with Hiro, now he doesn’t have his power. Hey! Let’s have him discover how to be a hero, all over again! We’ve only done that four, six times before. Ten, tops.” ---
**Author:** ![CaerieD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/da6949/32.png) [@CaerieD](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaerieD)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2009, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-02-16-09-3-16-building-26-spoilers/486103/23 "2009-02-17T17:37:48Z")
> [@Wile\_E](#): > > What was the point with the India thing? And did Disgruntled Groom say something about a baby? I think he said something about a _bakery_. Why he cared about the bakery, I don’t know, but apparently he wanted the girl and the bakery? 'Cause those are so hard to come by. ---
**Author:** ![Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/half_man_half_wit/32/21766_2.png) [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Half_Man_Half_Wit)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2009, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-02-16-09-3-16-building-26-spoilers/486103/24 "2009-02-17T17:47:28Z")
> [@CaerieD](#): > > I think he said something about a _bakery_. Why he cared about the bakery, I don’t know, but apparently he wanted the girl and the bakery? 'Cause those are so hard to come by. I was suspecting some insidious link between the India episode and the new Indian takeout place HRG got lunch from for the family (which alas, sadly went uneaten, presumably)… It just was mentioned in such an awkward wink-wink, nudge-nudge way. Perhaps a conspiracy of Indian food conglomerates? ---
**Author:** ![CaerieD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/da6949/32.png) [@CaerieD](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaerieD)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2009, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-02-16-09-3-16-building-26-spoilers/486103/25 "2009-02-17T17:59:24Z")
Maybe Ana has the power to control people through food, and so she’ll come to America and end up helping everybody by making _Murgh Makhani_ and serving it at a banquet in Washington DC. This is why the bakery and Indian take-out was shoved needlessly into this episode, as a bit of foreshadowing of the tasty, tasty buttery chicken climax. ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2009, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-02-16-09-3-16-building-26-spoilers/486103/26 "2009-02-17T20:05:20Z")
I was so hoping that the Indian wedding would have a Bollywood-style dance number. This show needs some hot Indian women dressed in saris dancing in the rain. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-02-16-09-3-16-building-26-spoilers/486103/27 "2009-02-18T03:53:24Z")
> [@Wile\_E](#): > > What was the point with the India thing? And did Disgruntled Groom say something about a baby? I thought I heard baby too, and I thought that was the deal - wife and first-born son kind of thing. Why do I love Sylar on this show so much? And who is his apprentice reminding me of - Alfred E. Neuman? ---
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-02-16-09-3-16-building-26-spoilers/486103/28 "2009-02-18T04:00:29Z")
Yes, he said “and the baby.” Perhaps she was supposed to be pregnant? So, folks who’ve seen all the episodes - are there many in the earlier seasons that are a thoroughly pointless as this one was? There was a stunning lack of plot advancement. Unless introducing an extremely obvious love interest for Claire is what goes for plot advancement around here. ---
**Author:** ![Annie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/858c86/32.png) [@Annie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-02-16-09-3-16-building-26-spoilers/486103/29 "2009-02-18T05:09:10Z")
Oh jeeze, the first season, excluding the first 2, \*Homecoming, Six Months Ago, 5 Years Gone, \* whenever it was Sylar went to him mommy’s house, and the finale. ---
**Author:** ![Promethea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Promethea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Promethea)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 8:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-02-16-09-3-16-building-26-spoilers/486103/30 "2009-02-18T08:42:30Z")
I thought the comicbook store guy looked like he’s been created in the lab from a mix of 70% Milo Ventimiglia and 30% Zachary Quinto, hence a bit disconcerting. Lightray is (rightly) sceptical at the quality of the looks of said clerk. In turn, I rolled my eyes at clerk’s "Wow! a girl! A girl in a comic shop!!! " bit. Jeez, we’re not THAT obscure. I thought this episode was pretty entertaining. I am starting to love the fact that Danko and his team despise Nathan not because of Project Evil but because he plays favourites (like Claire) and doesn’t put the hours in. Oh and spends their budget for the year in the first week on expensive plane crashes. Mind you, I was genuinely confused by DHS woman’s 'you’ve been locking people up without giving them their Mirandas??? OMG you are in SO much trouble" bit. What on earth did she expect? Seriously, what the hell were the Black Ops guys there to do? Be a bit like Wile E Coyote and just sort of ineffectually chase the specials but not catch them? (Incidentally, if this really WAS their remit, I’d like to congratulate them on a job well done so far) I also like the fact that we were then thrown into that staple of sitcoms everywhere, that of “everyone be on their best behaviour because the important visitor from Head Office is here - so no fuck ups or we’ll get closed down”. She was Superintendent Chalmers! I am amused by Matt, Mohinder & Peter kidnapping Bennet becuase at first glance it seems such a mindbogglingly pointless plan. There’s something so dopey about the three of them, anyway. For example, them going to the trouble of drugging someone who was plainly working on drinking himself unconscious anyway. They could have saved themselves the expense and trouble of securing such drugs and just stood him a few rounds. Overall, pretty good episode I thought. Agree that the india storyline was entirely pointless. Oh except for that fantastic cake - if I ever were to get married, I’m definitely going with miniature elephants holding up the tiers. And is next week all Jack Coleman, all the time? Sweeeet. ---
**Author:** ![GSV\_Consolation\_of\_Dreams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f1d935/32.png) [@GSV\_Consolation\_of\_Dreams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GSV_Consolation_of_Dreams)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 9:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-02-16-09-3-16-building-26-spoilers/486103/31 "2009-02-18T09:27:38Z")
I enjoyed this episode a lot, but the India stuff **was** a bit… off. Maybe they had some sets and extras they’d already paid for so… hey let’s do this bit in India too! ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 9:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-02-16-09-3-16-building-26-spoilers/486103/32 "2009-02-18T09:35:13Z")
> [@Lightray](#): > > Good Lord, Tracy is dumb. You have freeze-power, you’re surrounded by armed men but you’re holding a guy hostage. Do you: > > 1. Freeze-dry your hostage, removing the only disincentive for the men with guns _not_ to shoot you. > 2. Negotiate, while the men with guns might not shoot you. Especially since if she had restrained herself the chik from DHS would have shut it down. > [@](#): > > But, at least Hiro learned the same damn lesson he’s learned at least a half-dozen times before, in each season before this. Maybe someday it’ll stick. Yah-tah! ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 9:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-02-16-09-3-16-building-26-spoilers/486103/33 "2009-02-18T09:43:21Z")
> [@Annie](#): > > Iocane powder! That’s how Sylar kept coming back from the dead! He was only mostly dead! Never start a land war in Asia. Never get into a battle of wits with a Sicilian when death is on the line. but most of all. Your only advantage over the mutants is that you are more organized than they are. What are you going to do when they organize as a cohesive military force? I always kind of pined for one plotline just one where Magneto successfully organized Mutants and and took the humans out. I never really understood why the Mutants were hunted by the human rulers of civilization, rather than ruling civilization as Illuminati overlords. We’re smarter than you, we’re stronger than you, and oh yeah, I can pick up a tank and throw it over that school. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-02-16-09-3-16-building-26-spoilers/486103/34 "2009-02-18T13:43:17Z")
> [@Promethea](#): > > I am amused by Matt, Mohinder & Peter kidnapping Bennet becuase at first glance it seems such a mindbogglingly pointless plan. There’s something so dopey about the three of them, anyway. For example, them going to the trouble of drugging someone who was plainly working on drinking himself unconscious anyway. They could have saved themselves the expense and trouble of securing such drugs and just stood him a few rounds. Wasn’t that an allusion to how Noah and the Haitian picked up Matt in season 1? ---
**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-02-16-09-3-16-building-26-spoilers/486103/35 "2009-02-18T14:36:27Z")
Can’t believe I somehow missed this until now: > [@Annie](#): > > Since Lightray’s being a big wanker and falling negligent in his threadstarting duties: 😃 No givebacks! 😛 Neener-neener. Besides which, you’re actually providing recaps… I was barely arsed to go look up the weekly title (which my whacky DirecTV guy got wrong half the time, anyway). So _there_. ---
**Author:** ![Baldwin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baldwin/32/7264_2.png) [@Baldwin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baldwin)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-02-16-09-3-16-building-26-spoilers/486103/36 "2009-02-18T14:46:15Z")
So, Matt finally remembered that _he can read minds_. That could come in handy. How did Hiro and Ando get to India? They’re hunted fugitives, with their bank accounts frozen (even though Hiro is now a very wealthy head of a major Japanese corporation). Is Daphne dead or not? Completely pointless, ham-fisted storytelling to keep that answer hidden. Looks like Claire’s got a new ambiguously gay boyfriend. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-02-16-09-3-16-building-26-spoilers/486103/37 "2009-02-18T15:08:42Z")
> [@elfkin477](#): > > Yes, he said “and the baby.” Perhaps she was supposed to be pregnant? Actually, I heard “and the bakery.” ---
**Author:** ![Rattlehead02](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rattlehead02/32/3944_2.png) [@Rattlehead02](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rattlehead02)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-02-16-09-3-16-building-26-spoilers/486103/38 "2009-02-18T15:17:14Z")
A bit off topic here, but the opening credits always show “So-and-so as The voice of Shenkar (or whatever)” What is the voice of Shenkar? ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-02-16-09-3-16-building-26-spoilers/486103/39 "2009-02-18T15:26:58Z")
> [@featherlou](#): > > I thought I heard baby too, and I thought that was the deal - wife and first-born son kind of thing. > > Why do I love Sylar on this show so much? And who is his apprentice reminding me of - Alfred E. Neuman? The actor playing Luke was so familiar it was driving me nuts so I looked it up. He was Justin Tolchuk on the short-lived CW show Aliens in America. I couldn’t recognize him with shorter hair. In my defense though I only watched a couple episodes when they reran them on weekends. > [@Promethea](#): > > … > Mind you, I was genuinely confused by DHS woman’s 'you’ve been locking people up without giving them their Mirandas??? OMG you are in SO much trouble" bit. What on earth did she expect? Seriously, what the hell were the Black Ops guys there to do? Be a bit like Wile E Coyote and just sort of ineffectually chase the specials but not catch them? … Hey! No personal insults in Cafe Society! 😛 > [@Ethilrist](#): > > Actually, I heard “and the bakery.” Well, I guess that would make more sense since she had a bakery and was obviously in love with her female partner so unless her partner has the ability to impregnate other women I guess there would be no baby. I wondered if Disgruntled Groom had an ability since he was so powerful and feared but if he did he never showed it. Unless it was Super Cookpot-Wielding Ability. ---
**Author:** ![Baldwin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baldwin/32/7264_2.png) [@Baldwin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baldwin)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-02-16-09-3-16-building-26-spoilers/486103/40 "2009-02-18T15:34:41Z")
I wonder if Hiro’s sister will ever be seen again? When we first saw Tracy from behind, I thought she was naked. She wasn’t, but even so, she sure looked like she was chained in a BDSM dungeon. Surprised she didn’t have a ball gag. Man, if you’re counting on the Dept. of Homeland Security to protect your civil rights, things are bad. (In real life, I hope Obama changes that name. Made me queasy when I first started hearing the word “homeland” thrown around.) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-02-16-09-3-16-building-26-spoilers/486103.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-02-16-09-3-16-building-26-spoilers/486103.md?page=3)