# Heroes 02/16/09 (3-16) "Building 26" (spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 16, 2009, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-02-16-09-3-16-building-26-spoilers/486103 "2009-02-16T15:33:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-02-16-09-3-16-building-26-spoilers/486103/41 "2009-02-18T16:35:29Z")
> [@Baldwin](#): > > Is Daphne dead or not? Completely pointless, ham-fisted storytelling to keep that answer hidden. I’m expecting an exchange like this next episode: Matt: “Daphne is dead because of you!” Noah: “What, you think she’s dead?” > [@GildedLily](#): > > A bit off topic here, but the opening credits always show “So-and-so as The voice of Shenkar (or whatever)” > > What is the voice of Shenkar? I think he’s the “Previously on Heroes” guy. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-02-16-09-3-16-building-26-spoilers/486103/42 "2009-02-18T16:47:31Z")
> [@GildedLily](#): > > A bit off topic here, but the opening credits always show “So-and-so as The voice of Shenkar (or whatever)” > > What is the voice of Shenkar? The credits list Music by Wendy Melvoin and the Voice of Shenkar. Shenkar is a musician who provides the vocalization for the incidental music. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-02-16-09-3-16-building-26-spoilers/486103/43 "2009-02-18T17:23:04Z")
> [@Baldwin](#): > > \ > Looks like Claire’s got a new ambiguously gay boyfriend. It’s entirely possible Claire has daddy issues. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Annie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/858c86/32.png) [@Annie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-02-16-09-3-16-building-26-spoilers/486103/44 "2009-02-18T17:35:07Z")
> [@Mollie\_Magill](#): > > Wasn’t that an allusion to how Noah and the Haitian picked up Matt in season 1? Totally. Those S1 callbacks are kinda fun (Peter and Mo in the cab, for example) > [@Lightray](#): > > Can’t believe I somehow missed this until now: Me neither! I’m on the west coast, though, so if I don’t get the thread started until 15 minutes before the show starts, blame the planetary rotations, don’t blame me:p > [@Ethilrist](#): > > Actually, I heard “and the bakery.” The bakery can be the new future Heroes HQ- fighting shadowy organizations, with awesome sweets trays too! Then they can search the world looking for the ‘diabetes curing blood’ hero. > [@mswas](#): > > Never get into a battle of wits with a Sicilian when death is on the line. Change that to ‘insecure nerdy watchmaker’ and you got it! > [@](#): > > We’re smarter than you, we’re stronger than you, and oh yeah, I can pick up a tank and throw it over that school. Yeah,but you’re talking about Mohinder here. His Achilles heel is impetuousness and poor risk management planning. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-02-16-09-3-16-building-26-spoilers/486103/45 "2009-02-18T17:37:59Z")
> [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > I’m expecting an exchange like this next episode: > Matt: “Daphne is dead because of you!” > Noah: “What, you think she’s dead?” Plus, Noah got shot. In the face. And got better. Remember the first rule of survival in a Call of Cthulhu campaign: If you don’t have the body, it’s not dead. We saw her take a couple hits and go down. Last season, she got hit by the flash from a nuclear explosion hard enough to kill her within seconds, and still made it home to Matt. She could be in any of a thousand ERs right now. ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-02-16-09-3-16-building-26-spoilers/486103/46 "2009-02-18T17:50:11Z")
According to Professor X and Cerebrus there are a lot more mutants than I think the government have identified, at least judging from the wall in Bldg. 26. ---
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-02-16-09-3-16-building-26-spoilers/486103/47 "2009-02-18T18:35:18Z")
> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#): > > According to Professor X and Cerebrus there are a lot more mutants than I think the government have identified, at least judging from the wall in Bldg. 26. Honestly? I kept expecting the new “boss” to morph appearance soon after her introduction and reveal that she was just a plant to keep someone on the inside. You know, to cement the homage to the X-Men all the more. I was told that there really _was_ a Heroes character that could take on other people’s appearances, but she hasn’t been seen in a long time. True? ---
**Author:** ![CaerieD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/da6949/32.png) [@CaerieD](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaerieD)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-02-16-09-3-16-building-26-spoilers/486103/48 "2009-02-18T18:42:01Z")
> [@elfkin477](#): > > I was told that there really _was_ a Heroes character that could take on other people’s appearances, but she hasn’t been seen in a long time. True? True. Sylar cracked open her skull and dug around in her brain. He was currently ill and couldn’t take on her power, however, and so that particular permutation of the ability is well and truly dead. A different take on it from a different character could always pop up, though. ---
**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-02-16-09-3-16-building-26-spoilers/486103/49 "2009-02-18T18:42:56Z")
Candice could make illusions, and thereby appear as other people. They replaced the actress after Season 1, and then quickly wrote out the character in Season 2, by having Sylar eat her brain (to no effect). ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-02-16-09-3-16-building-26-spoilers/486103/50 "2009-02-18T18:47:02Z")
Does anybody else think there might be some ability Noah is hiding? Maybe it is something mundane, like being able to always find the matching sock in a drawer or being able to balance tables that a wobbling. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-02-16-09-3-16-building-26-spoilers/486103/51 "2009-02-18T18:47:12Z")
> [@elfkin477](#): > > I was told that there really _was_ a Heroes character that could take on other people’s appearances, but she hasn’t been seen in a long time. True? Sylar killed her, but wasn’t able to do the Brain thing because he didn’t have powers. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-02-16-09-3-16-building-26-spoilers/486103/52 "2009-02-18T21:38:13Z")
> [@Annie](#): > > Change that to ‘insecure nerdy watchmaker’ and you got it! Nah, I bet Sylar has an immunity to iocaine powder. > [@](#): > > Yeah,but you’re talking about Mohinder here. His Achilles heel is impetuousness and poor risk management planning. 😃 Yeah, but writers of these sorts of franchises never really allow for some kind of actually well organized mutant group to crop up unless they are the heroes. The Hellfire Club in Marvel is the closest thing to it, but they don’t really touch on that enough IMO. I like the idea of Parkman, Peter, and Mohinder’s terrorist cell. I also look forward to seeing more righteous fury from Sylar. I’m pissed that they had Tracy act so stupid and untactically, because it kind of ruins the idea of future performance. ---
**Author:** ![saramamalana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/74df32/32.png) [@saramamalana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saramamalana)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-02-16-09-3-16-building-26-spoilers/486103/53 "2009-02-18T22:05:31Z")
I thought for a hot second that maybe Ana was Mohinder’s sister, but then I couldn’t remember whether or not she’s dead…is she? Or do we only think she’s dead, something like that? ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-02-16-09-3-16-building-26-spoilers/486103/54 "2009-02-18T22:41:14Z")
Supposedly Mohinder’s sister died before he was born. She had some disease that his blood could cure so naturally she had to die before he was born or else there would be no drama. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-02-16-09-3-16-building-26-spoilers/486103/55 "2009-02-19T00:22:05Z")
I have tried watching “Heroes” a couple of times, but I just couldn’t get interested. No spandex? No capes? The super powers are virtually meaningless without the spandex and the capes! But I’m really loving “Heroes” now that it’s totally bagging on the Homeland Security Dept. with its Heroes vs. Homeland Security theme. I wanna see Homeland Security types get frozen, fried, carried to great heights and dropped, blowed up real good, and otherwise abused. I’m in! However, I thought the Tracy in Prison scene could have used some snappier dialogue. To wit: Tracy: _I understand the chains and the heat lamps, but why is the NBC peacock on my ass?_ Nathan: _They don’t call it enhanced interrogation for nothing, baby!_ Tracy: _All right, but I can handle these heat lamps easily – I used to work at McDonald’s!_ Nathan: (clearly peeved) _You’re not supposed to do the degrading confessions until **after** we start with the torture!_ Tracy: _What sort of torture?_ Nathan: _Well, consulting the list of Approved Hot Blond Interrogation Techniques, we’ll start with a chocolate fudge thong, add on a whipped cream bra with nipple cherries …_ Tracy: _Nipple cherries … mmm, me like! Tell me more!_ Nathan: _There’s nothing more to tell, it’s degenerated into a bunch of meaningless gibberish and drool. Oh, well, we’ll think of something when the time comes, little lady, you can count on that!_ That’s all the dialogue I have right now … the rest is just meaningless gibberish and drool. I’m sure I’ll think of something later. ---
**Author:** ![Baldwin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baldwin/32/7264_2.png) [@Baldwin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baldwin)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-02-16-09-3-16-building-26-spoilers/486103/56 "2009-02-19T00:42:07Z")
> [@Evil\_Captor](#): > > I have tried watching “Heroes” a couple of times, but I just couldn’t get interested. No spandex? No capes? The super powers are virtually meaningless without the spandex and the capes! Well, originally, it seemed like the premise was to have a story about what might happen to people who suddenly developed inexplicable powers in the real world (or something close to it). That didn’t last long. Note: as established, Sylar doesn’t eat brains. Instead, as we saw in a really disturbing scene with Claire, he takes off the top of somebody’s skull, and then – don’t know how else to put this – he kind of finger-fucks their brain. Yep; slides two fingers right between those warm, soft hemispheres. You can show that on television no problem, but if a woman lets her nipple be seen, people go nuts. I think this show actually has more daddy-issues than _Lost_ does. ---
**Author:** ![Osip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4491bb/32.png) [@Osip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Osip)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-02-16-09-3-16-building-26-spoilers/486103/57 "2009-02-19T01:12:05Z")
> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#): > > Does anybody else think there might be some ability Noah is hiding? > > Maybe it is something mundane, like being able to always find the matching sock in a drawer or being able to balance tables that a wobbling. I keep hoping we run into people with crappy powers. Heros with crappy or useless powers saving the world. Like Peers Anthony’s Xanth and Mystery Men combined! ---
**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-02-16-09-3-16-building-26-spoilers/486103/58 "2009-02-19T01:14:31Z")
> [@Evil\_Captor](#): > > That’s all the dialogue I have right now … the rest is just meaningless gibberish and drool. I’m sure I’ll think of something later. Oh my God. _This_ is how far Heroes has fallen. It is now inspiring people to fanfic Nathan with… a _woman_. the horror. the horror. ---
**Author:** ![PastAllReason](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f07891/32.png) [@PastAllReason](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastAllReason)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-02-16-09-3-16-building-26-spoilers/486103/59 "2009-02-19T01:26:32Z")
> [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > I think he’s the “Previously on Heroes” guy. I haven’t noticed recently, but some of the actors have taken turns with “previously on heroes”. The usual suspect though for that bit, and any narration, is the guy who plays Mohinder. ---
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-02-16-09-3-16-building-26-spoilers/486103/60 "2009-02-19T01:33:46Z")
> [@Osip](#): > > I keep hoping we run into people with crappy powers. Heros with crappy or useless powers saving the world. Like Peers Anthony’s Xanth and Mystery Men combined! How useful is Comic book guy’s power? Wow, breathing under water! You might come up with a use for that once every five years or so. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-02-16-09-3-16-building-26-spoilers/486103.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-02-16-09-3-16-building-26-spoilers/486103.md?page=4)