# Heroes 06/04/09: “Turn and Face the Strange”. Now with 80% less suck!

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [April 6, 2009, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-06-04-09-turn-and-face-the-strange-now-with-80-less-suck/492129 "2009-04-06T14:44:23Z")\
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**Author:** ![Annie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/858c86/32.png) [@Annie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2009, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-06-04-09-turn-and-face-the-strange-now-with-80-less-suck/492129/21 "2009-04-08T01:01:49Z")

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> [@crazyjoe](#):
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> Yeah, I hate when they take a guy like Bennet, who is supposed to be a great strategist, someone who plans and prepares for contingencies, and make him into a dumb shit just to move the plot along.

But is he usually a great strategist? He can think on his feet and adapt to fluid situations but this is the guy who still managed to get shot in the face when he had prophesied documentation of what would happen and who would likely pull the trigger. But total 10/10 for the ‘Elle in Muggle’s doggie bath’ trick.

He really needs the Haitian back. He’s like intelligence catalyst for Noah or something. Things always go to hell when he’s not around

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**Author:** ![crazyjoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f14d63/32.png) [@crazyjoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crazyjoe)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2009, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-06-04-09-turn-and-face-the-strange-now-with-80-less-suck/492129/22 "2009-04-08T13:56:01Z")

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> [@Annie](#):
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> But is he usually a great strategist? He can think on his feet and adapt to fluid situations but this is the guy who still managed to get shot in the face when he had prophesied documentation of what would happen and who would likely pull the trigger. But total 10/10 for the ‘Elle in Muggle’s doggie bath’ trick.
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> He really needs the Haitian back. He’s like intelligence catalyst for Noah or something. Things always go to hell when he’s not around

I’m not gonna say he’s the world’s best strategist, but after the way he took Danko to task for just rushing in on the shapeshifter without any research, without any patience, for him to do it himself seemed pretty out of character.

Of course, I’ve been known to be hypocritical on one or two occasions myself, so I guess it’s human nature.

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**Author:** ![Promethea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Promethea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Promethea)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2009, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-06-04-09-turn-and-face-the-strange-now-with-80-less-suck/492129/23 "2009-04-08T13:57:23Z")

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Whatever happened to Other Mohinder, the stick insect that Mohinder inherited from his father? What with Matt also seemingly having forgotten that turtle (which always looked more likely to be a tortoise), I think they did the right thing in posting Molly to wherever they did.

Also, I’m sure we are supposed to be finding Peter’s Not Speaking to Nathan deeply tragic but he’s going about it all in such petulant childish fashion that it’s just hilarious. I kept expecting him to be all “MA! Nathan’s shovelling dirt on me!” (Angela: “if you two don’t behave yourselves, we are all getting back in the car and driving back to New York and then no more Storyline for any of you”)

Overall, I am sadly resigned to be zigging whenever you all zag on the enjoyment of the episodes of this season - I think overall the stuff since the hiatus has been fantastic but the pacing of this one felt so static that overall it just fell flat for me. I liked Danko being in love with a hooker though - that was awesome.

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**Author:** ![Kyla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@Kyla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyla)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2009, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-06-04-09-turn-and-face-the-strange-now-with-80-less-suck/492129/24 "2009-04-08T16:25:39Z")

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I half-watched this episode while studying, and all I’ve got to say is that the Petrellis have got to be \*the \*most dysfunctional TV family ever. I’m giving them one episode of working together, digging in the desert, before they try to kill each other.

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**Author:** ![Caveat\_lector\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@Caveat\_lector\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Caveat_lector_1)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2009, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-06-04-09-turn-and-face-the-strange-now-with-80-less-suck/492129/25 "2009-04-08T17:12:14Z")

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I wasn’t too surpised by Bennet’s actions. He seems to have a major thing for getting Sylar and that kind of obsession can screw with someone. Picture a guy who has a chance to go after his daughter’s rapist. There a good chance he isn’t going to be all cold and caluclating about it. Add in the guy keeps getting away from him and you just make it worse.

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**Author:** ![Plynck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Plynck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plynck)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2009, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-06-04-09-turn-and-face-the-strange-now-with-80-less-suck/492129/26 "2009-04-08T17:33:20Z")

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> [@Annie](#):
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> Best episode title of the year, and part of _Heroes_ ongoing mission to implant me with killer earworms from the 70’s.

“David Bowie. Why does it always come back to David Bowie?”

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2009, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-06-04-09-turn-and-face-the-strange-now-with-80-less-suck/492129/27 "2009-04-08T17:47:26Z")

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> [@Caveat\_lector\_1](#):
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> I wasn’t too surpised by Bennet’s actions. He seems to have a major thing for getting Sylar and that kind of obsession can screw with someone. Picture a guy who has a chance to go after his daughter’s rapist. There a good chance he isn’t going to be all cold and caluclating about it. Add in the guy keeps getting away from him and you just make it worse.

Plus Sylar impersonated his wife which resulted in Noah holding a gun to her head. I think Noah’s “Get Sylar” impulse was seriously overriding his “Don’t Trust Danko” impulse.

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**Author:** ![Annie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/858c86/32.png) [@Annie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2009, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-06-04-09-turn-and-face-the-strange-now-with-80-less-suck/492129/28 "2009-04-09T03:25:07Z")

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> [@Caveat\_lector\_1](#):
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> I wasn’t too surpised by Bennet’s actions. He seems to have a major thing for getting Sylar and that kind of obsession can screw with someone. Picture a guy who has a chance to go after his daughter’s rapist. There a good chance he isn’t going to be all cold and caluclating about it. Add in the guy keeps getting away from him and you just make it worse.

Although he did partner with him for a little while and never tried to plant a hatchet in the back of his head. Tried to get his sucked into a quantum singularity, but nothing _violent_. 😃 Until the throat cutting. That was at minimum a manslaughter charge

Speaking of the revenge, I’m glad Claire got to (temporarily) kill him too. She’s a big girl and developing skills; let her get her own vengeance on. I think Molly should get a crack at him too.

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**Author:** ![jackdavinci](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackdavinci/32/3259_2.png) [@jackdavinci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackdavinci)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2009, 9:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-06-04-09-turn-and-face-the-strange-now-with-80-less-suck/492129/29 "2009-04-09T09:13:33Z")

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> [@Johnny\_Q](#):
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> Anyone find it kind of odd that Nathan/Claire and Hiro/Ando/Junior are 50 feet away from each other and don’t realize that they are 50 feet away from each other? .

This reminded me of Lost…

> [@Annie](#):
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> Mohinder’s hat

I loved it! SO cute.

> [@Plynck](#):
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> “David Bowie. Why does it always come back to David Bowie?”

Heh I was thinking this exact same thing.

Good episode, definitely see Fuller’s influence starting to take effect. Only thing that was lame was Angela:

I could just tell you that there are many dead bodies buried here, but it’s more dramatic if I make you dig for a few hours so that we have a dramatic visual for the audience!

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2009, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-06-04-09-turn-and-face-the-strange-now-with-80-less-suck/492129/30 "2009-04-09T16:05:40Z")

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Nathan: Uh, ma, can you just freaking tell us what this is about?

Mama Petrelli: Keep digging.

Peter: Keep diiging? Keep diggin??? JAyzus we’ve been digging and we found trhese skeletons and what am I supposed to do now, run a spectral microscopic laser anlayis on it?

Mama Petrelli: If you want answers, keep digging?

Claire: Just freaking tell us? Holy crap! It’s like you are trying to drag this out to next week or something!

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**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2009, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-06-04-09-turn-and-face-the-strange-now-with-80-less-suck/492129/31 "2009-04-09T16:23:15Z")

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> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#):
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> Nathan: Uh, ma, can you just freaking tell us what this is about?
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> Mama Petrelli: Keep digging.
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> Peter: Keep diiging? Keep diggin??? JAyzus we’ve been digging and we found trhese skeletons and what am I supposed to do now, run a spectral microscopic laser anlayis on it?
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> Mama Petrelli: If you want answers, keep digging?
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> Claire: Just freaking tell us? Holy crap! It’s like you are trying to drag this out to next week or something!

If only one of them had mutant super digging powers so we could get her to spill the secrets quicker!

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2009, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-06-04-09-turn-and-face-the-strange-now-with-80-less-suck/492129/32 "2009-04-09T16:54:05Z")

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> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#):
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> Nathan: Uh, ma, can you just freaking tell us what this is about?
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> Mama Petrelli: Keep digging.
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> Peter: Keep diiging? Keep diggin??? JAyzus we’ve been digging and we found trhese skeletons and what am I supposed to do now, run a spectral microscopic laser anlayis on it?
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> Mama Petrelli: If you want answers, keep digging?
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> Claire: Just freaking tell us? Holy crap! It’s like you are trying to drag this out to next week or something!

Isn’t it obvious? She wants to do the flashback in a puppet show format, and she need human skulls for the puppets.

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**Author:** ![Windwalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/5e9695/32.png) [@Windwalker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Windwalker)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2009, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-06-04-09-turn-and-face-the-strange-now-with-80-less-suck/492129/33 "2009-04-09T17:52:18Z")

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Ridiculous. It’s clear that Mama Petrelli is actually Tibetan, and she needs to grind up all of the bones with barley and feed them to vultures in order to complete the sky burial.

BTW, Annie, great job as always. 🙂

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**Author:** ![LawMonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d6d6ee/32.png) [@LawMonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LawMonkey)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2009, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-06-04-09-turn-and-face-the-strange-now-with-80-less-suck/492129/34 "2009-04-09T21:09:21Z")

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Note, of course, that the digging requirement did not apply to Mama Petrelli herself, presumably because she already had the answers.

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**Author:** ![emarkp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3be4f8/32.png) [@emarkp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emarkp)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2009, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-06-04-09-turn-and-face-the-strange-now-with-80-less-suck/492129/35 "2009-04-09T23:00:42Z")

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Is this the first time we’ve seen conscious control over healing?

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**Author:** ![Annie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/858c86/32.png) [@Annie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-06-04-09-turn-and-face-the-strange-now-with-80-less-suck/492129/36 "2009-04-10T02:32:47Z")

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> [@Mollie\_Magill](#):
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> Isn’t it obvious? She wants to do the flashback in a puppet show format, and she need human skulls for the puppets.

Sylar would so love that: “Wow, lady, you’re \*sick \*(insert shit eating grin here)”😃

> [@emarkp](#):
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> Is this the first time we’ve seen conscious control over healing?

I think you may be right. Our little nutter didn’t look too pink and healthy afterwards either. Perhaps shapeshifting + other ability usage tuckers him out.

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