# Heroes 1/29 - "The Fix" (SPOILERS) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 29, 2007, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-1-29-the-fix-spoilers/390025 "2007-01-29T22:30:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Nefarious\_Chipmunk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nefarious_chipmunk/32/1045_2.png) [@Nefarious\_Chipmunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nefarious_Chipmunk)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2007, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-1-29-the-fix-spoilers/390025/141 "2007-02-01T04:49:21Z")
[QUOTE=Ellis Dee] I would just like to say that when a 17 year old actress is playing a 15 year old character, I’d much appreciate it if they wouldn’t have her falling out of her top, and having her hair obscure her chest isn’t much help. Cut us hetero guys who haven’t been a teenager for a couple decades a break and keep the young’uns fully dressed, okay? [/QUOTE] The Official Heroes MySpace page linked to above has a profile of Claire that says she is 17. I am so confused. How old is she!? ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2007, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-1-29-the-fix-spoilers/390025/142 "2007-02-01T04:53:05Z")
[QUOTE=Ellis Dee] I would just like to say that when a 17 year old actress is playing a 15 year old character, I’d much appreciate it if they wouldn’t have her falling out of her top, and having her hair obscure her chest isn’t much help. Cut us hetero guys who haven’t been a teenager for a couple decades a break and keep the young’uns fully dressed, okay? . [/QUOTE] A) No. Does it burn your eyes or something? B) Has she been particularly sluttily dressed, or something? Seems like a typical cheerleading outfit, and I don’t remember anything else she has worn as being particularly revealing. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2007, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-1-29-the-fix-spoilers/390025/143 "2007-02-01T05:11:05Z")
[QUOTE=SenorBeef] B) Has she been particularly sluttily dressed, or something? Seems like a typical cheerleading outfit, and I don’t remember anything else she has worn as being particularly revealing. [/QUOTE] Not until this past episode. The cheerleader outfit is fine. It’s when she was lying down on the bed talking to her dad that she was falling out of her top. Oh man, was it just me that noticed?! Gah!!! ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2007, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-1-29-the-fix-spoilers/390025/144 "2007-02-01T05:16:12Z")
[QUOTE=heraldgwena] The Official Heroes MySpace page linked to above has a profile of Claire that says she is 17. I am so confused. How old is she!? [/QUOTE] Someone on another message board said that HER MySpace page (rather than the show’s) has to be set at 17 or 18 or else it’d be made auto-friends only because of site policy. Maybe someone at NBC saw that commandment and just assumed too much. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2007, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-1-29-the-fix-spoilers/390025/145 "2007-02-01T05:21:46Z")
[QUOTE=SenorBeef] A) No. Does it burn your eyes or something? B) Has she been particularly sluttily dressed, or something? Seems like a typical cheerleading outfit, and I don’t remember anything else she has worn as being particularly revealing. [/QUOTE] They could put her in a potato sack dress and her body would still say “do me.” I was kinda surprised if she’s supposed to be 15 AED let her tell Zach, “just wait for me in my room.” As Claire-dad I’d be all “uh, no. Try the living room.” ---
**Author:** ![Tabby\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tabby\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tabby_Cat)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2007, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-1-29-the-fix-spoilers/390025/146 "2007-02-01T05:34:18Z")
I personally thought she was cutest in that turtleneck that she absolutely RUINED by jumping off that construction thing. How does she explain all the ripped up stuff, anyhow? ---
**Author:** ![Carnick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Carnick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carnick)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2007, 10:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-1-29-the-fix-spoilers/390025/147 "2007-02-01T10:38:22Z")
[QUOTE=Otto] The actor has already played gay and since he went on to land a lead role in an upcoming Terminator spin-off series it does not appear to have limited his career. [/quote] He was on what, Grosse Point? I haven’t even heard of that. Heroes is popular so he has a real risk of being typecast. > [@](#): > > I understand that and have said it here more than once. The creators of the show, however, have stated that they intended for the character to be gay. For what we’ve actually seen his sexuality has never been determined. It’s actually silly to say he was inned because he was never really out, Myspace profiles aside. If he was dating a guy last season then suddenly told Claire “Hey I found out cocks aren’t cool, let’s do it!”, then we’d have a reason to be angry. > [@](#): > > Given that Zach has already exhibited a lack of stereotypical flaming and an enormous amount of self-esteem, I disgaree with this assessment completely. Yeah, until the very special episode. All that aside, it’s a good thing the invisible guy’s clothing is part of the genome project too, or else he’d be walking around naked. All the stuff he collects like wallets also dissapears. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2007, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-1-29-the-fix-spoilers/390025/148 "2007-02-01T15:44:05Z")
[QUOTE=Carnick] All that aside, it’s a good thing the invisible guy’s clothing is part of the genome project too, or else he’d be walking around naked. All the stuff he collects like wallets also dissapears. [/QUOTE] You know, I was going to say this was silly, because everybody else’s clothing is affected by or protected from their powers–Hiro’s stuff travels in time, Nathan’s clothes didn’t get torn off while he was breaking the sound barrier–but then I realized that Claire’s clothing isn’t protected when she gets beaten up. Plus, there are numerous examples in comics and movies of people with the ability to go invisible whose clothing _doesn’t_ turn invisible–Sue Storm, the Invisible Man, the Invisible Kid from Mystery Men… For whoever was creeped out by seeing the tops of Claire’s boobs: you were okay with her collarbone peeking out of her chest, but not her actual chest? And okay with her getting variously beaten up from time to time? ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2007, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-1-29-the-fix-spoilers/390025/149 "2007-02-01T16:37:38Z")
[QUOTE=Ethilrist] You know, I was going to say this was silly, because everybody else’s clothing is affected by or protected from their powers–Hiro’s stuff travels in time, Nathan’s clothes didn’t get torn off while he was breaking the sound barrier–but then I realized that Claire’s clothing isn’t protected when she gets beaten up. Plus, there are numerous examples in comics and movies of people with the ability to go invisible whose clothing _doesn’t_ turn invisible–Sue Storm, the Invisible Man, the Invisible Kid from Mystery Men… For whoever was creeped out by seeing the tops of Claire’s boobs: you were okay with her collarbone peeking out of her chest, but not her actual chest? And okay with her getting variously beaten up from time to time? [/QUOTE] He is not actually invisible, you just can’t see him. His power clouds your mind so it seems like he is invisible. Of course his clothing would be affected. Or something like that. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2007, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-1-29-the-fix-spoilers/390025/150 "2007-02-01T16:51:38Z")
[QUOTE=Ethilrist] You know, I was going to say this was silly, because everybody else’s clothing is affected by or protected from their powers–Hiro’s stuff travels in time, Nathan’s clothes didn’t get torn off while he was breaking the sound barrier–but then I realized that Claire’s clothing isn’t protected when she gets beaten up. Plus, there are numerous examples in comics and movies of people with the ability to go invisible whose clothing _doesn’t_ turn invisible–Sue Storm, the Invisible Man, the Invisible Kid from Mystery Men… [/QUOTE] Sue Storm’s street clothes don’t turn invisible but her costume does. In comics, she can also make things turn invisible. Is this really a deal-breaker for you? DL’s clothes phase with him. Invisible Guy’s clothes turn invisible too. Nathan’s britches stay on. Claire’s clothes take damage. Isaac can’t keep a shirt on. Mohinder wears really Queer Eye scarves. It’s really not a big deal for me. Well, that’s not true. Mohinder’s scarf really bugged me. On preview, I agree with **Loach** about Invisi-Brit. He’s not invisible, it’s just that for some reason you’re incapable of noticing or observing him. I wonder if his pigeons could see him? ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2007, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-1-29-the-fix-spoilers/390025/151 "2007-02-01T17:10:01Z")
[QUOTE=levdrakon] \I was kinda surprised if she’s supposed to be 15 AED let her tell Zach, “just wait for me in my room.” As Claire-dad I’d be all “uh, no. Try the living room.” [/QUOTE] I noticed that, too. That struck a real wrong note for me. I don’t think a 15 year old girl’s dad would be sending any boy up to her room even if he was gay. ---
**Author:** ![Tabby\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tabby\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tabby_Cat)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2007, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-1-29-the-fix-spoilers/390025/152 "2007-02-01T17:23:18Z")
I liked Mohinder’s scarf. ☹ Maybe it’s a Brit thing… ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2007, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-1-29-the-fix-spoilers/390025/153 "2007-02-01T17:30:29Z")
[QUOTE=Tabby\_Cat] I liked Mohinder’s scarf. ☹ Maybe it’s a Brit thing… [/QUOTE] It was an adorable scarf. I love the color. It was just… I dunno. Too much. I’ve loved all his clothes so far but now it seems like Carson Kressley had his way with his wardrobe. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2007, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-1-29-the-fix-spoilers/390025/154 "2007-02-03T02:25:34Z")
While watching the NBC shows last night, it hit me like a ton of bricks who Claire’s father is. It is almost too obvious from the “next week on” promo that has been running every commercial break on NBC shows. It’s the same promo that aired after Monday’s episode, but it seems so obvious now that I’m going to spoiler it: > [@](#): > > Sylar is Claire’s father. The only thing we’ve seen clearly in the promo is that he was wearing a watch. Sylar’s defining backstory was a watch fetish. Hell, that’s where his friggin’ _name_ came from. ---
**Author:** ![HazelNutCoffee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@HazelNutCoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HazelNutCoffee)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2007, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-1-29-the-fix-spoilers/390025/155 "2007-02-03T03:17:25Z")
[QUOTE=Ellis Dee] While watching the NBC shows last night, it hit me like a ton of bricks who Claire’s father is. It is almost too obvious from the “next week on” promo that has been running every commercial break on NBC shows. It’s the same promo that aired after Monday’s episode, but it seems so obvious now that I’m going to spoiler it: [/QUOTE] Hm. That’s an interesting thought, but I’m still not convinced. The guy in the preview was shown wearing a dress shirt, in an office setting. Sylar is currently on the run. I’m still betting it’s Nathan. Although I’d actually prefer it to be Sylar. That would be awesome. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2007, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-1-29-the-fix-spoilers/390025/156 "2007-02-03T04:22:01Z")
Obviously it could still be anyone, but I’m feeling fairly confident. (This spoiler contains a Sixth Sense spoiler.) > [@](#): > > The fact that every adult male on the show _except_ Sylar has been nominated in this thread is one clue. NBC is renowned for its over-the-top promo claims, but the whole “you won’t believe who it is” theme seems to scream “huge twist.” Would it really be a huge twist if her father were Nathan? Hell, people in this thread suggested George Takei, despite the fact that the father’s arm is clearly caucasian. Why has nobody even considered Sylar? Not sure, but that sets up an excellent twist for the writers to hit us with. > > And seriously, the glimpse we get is a shot lovingly framed around a watch? I’m reminded of The Sixth Sense, when the camera lingered on Bruce Willis while the kid was saying “and they don’t even know they’re dead.” If it were Nathan, a similarly “subtle” glimpse would have been of a US flag lapel pin or something. > > I suppose it could be the invisible guy, but I doubt it. Same with Nathan. Wouldn’t that make him a cheater? He’s already unsympathetic enough. And was he in an office setting? All we know is that he was dressed decently. Seems to me that the first order of business after a jailbreak-type escape would be to get some normal clothes. The guy is a supervillian, so acquiring clothes shouldn’t pose too much of a challenge. My vocal dislike for spoiler boxes on the boards is an indication of how strongly I believe that I’ve guessed it right, since I would never normally box something that was based on pure conjecture. ---
**Author:** ![HazelNutCoffee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@HazelNutCoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HazelNutCoffee)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2007, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-1-29-the-fix-spoilers/390025/157 "2007-02-03T05:05:19Z")
Well, I hope you’re right. We’ll see in a few days. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2007, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-1-29-the-fix-spoilers/390025/158 "2007-02-03T05:40:30Z")
Did someone official say Claire’s dad was going to be someone we already know on the show? Or just someone “we won’t believe?” Shock, shock. I’m still voting for Linderman. WRT our invisible posters; no way. Claire’s “dad” got a phone call from mom and the person who took the call appeared pretty comfortable judging from what we saw of his arm. You-know-who is a bit indisposed at the moment. But it would be a fun twist. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2007, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-1-29-the-fix-spoilers/390025/159 "2007-02-03T06:19:44Z")
Nathan _is_ a cheater - he had lots ‘o’ sex on video with Niki/Jessica. ---
**Author:** ![HazelNutCoffee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@HazelNutCoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HazelNutCoffee)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2007, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-1-29-the-fix-spoilers/390025/160 "2007-02-03T06:21:53Z")
[QUOTE=levdrakon] Did someone official say Claire’s dad was going to be someone we already know on the show? Or just someone “we won’t believe?” Shock, shock. I’m still voting for Linderman. WRT our invisible posters; no way. Claire’s “dad” got a phone call from mom and the person who took the call appeared pretty comfortable judging from what we saw of his arm. You-know-who is a bit indisposed at the moment. But it would be a fun twist. [/QUOTE] That was my point as well - he’s not in a position to be receiving phone calls. Although it’s very possible that the two scenes (Meredith talking on the phone and the shot of the man’s arm) may have nothing to do with each other. They like to screw with us like that, I feel. In an interview someone official implied that Claire’s father was someone the viewers already knew of. But nothing definite was said, I think. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-1-29-the-fix-spoilers/390025.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-1-29-the-fix-spoilers/390025.md?page=9)