# Heroes 10/2 (spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 3, 2006, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-2-spoilers/375072 "2006-10-03T03:39:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![jharvey963](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/54ee81/32.png) [@jharvey963](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jharvey963)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2006, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-2-spoilers/375072/41 "2006-10-03T20:00:25Z")
I guess I’m surprised that no one has mentioned the glyph that appeared in at least 3 places in the episode (maybe more that I missed). The glyph: I don’t know what else to call it. It had a slightly curved “backbone” line, vaguely “S” shaped but not as curved. It had 2 crosspieces like a capital “F” at one place and a single crosspiece at another place, but sticking out the opposite direction as the two crosspieces. There were several (?) paintings of the glyph symbol in crazy artist’s studio. When the Indian scientist and his father’s friend were scrolling through the data on the jump drive, this glyph appeared on the computer screen as a “hole” in the text of the data. And in the swimming pool at the murder scene, the pool cleaner hose was arranged as this glyph. Anyone scene this glyph other places? J. ---
**Author:** ![Draelin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@Draelin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Draelin)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2006, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-2-spoilers/375072/42 "2006-10-03T20:03:57Z")
[QUOTE=Barbarian] Second, Nicki the Blackout Killer lost her four hours in going back to the garage, getting a new car with registration, and putting the bodies in the trunk. The map is to a mob burial ground, which is why the shallow graves are pretty full. If Nicki had already buried the bodies, she would have just done it – instead she left the shovel as a grave marker. [/QUOTE] The paperwork in the car seemed to say it had been registered in June. MirrorGirl may have been taking chunks of Niki’s time that far back. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2006, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-2-spoilers/375072/43 "2006-10-03T20:05:40Z")
I think there were some crop circles last week that looked like the glyphs. re: the short timeline of only five weeks: Dude, they have somebody who can travel in time. Suppose the first season is spent going over just four of the five weeks (like, say, the first season of _Lost_). During that time, he gains enough power to pop everybody back to Ocbober 3rd… and off they go into the second season. ---
**Author:** ![BiblioCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@BiblioCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BiblioCat)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2006, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-2-spoilers/375072/44 "2006-10-03T20:16:43Z")
[QUOTE=jharvey963] There were several (?) paintings of the glyph symbol in crazy artist’s studio. When the Indian scientist and his father’s friend were scrolling through the data on the jump drive, this glyph appeared on the computer screen as a “hole” in the text of the data. And in the swimming pool at the murder scene, the pool cleaner hose was arranged as this glyph. Anyone scene this glyph other places? J. [/QUOTE] I caught it on the computer screen, but nowhere else. [Minor Rant]If this turns into another _Lost_, with tons of really subtle crap and super-secret websites and stuff like that, I’m giving up. I don’t want to do homework just to watch a TV show. [/MR] ---
**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2006, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-2-spoilers/375072/45 "2006-10-03T20:18:03Z")
[QUOTE=simster] Anyone else find it ‘convenient’ for all the cops to show up exactly after Hiro picked up the gun and got close to the body? [/QUOTE] I assumed that somebody arranged it. If a Isaac’s artwork was detailed enough, or if they had Hiro’s help, somebody could choreagraph it perfectly. > [@](#): > > … gun is one thing,. but with no other blood on Hiro, they should be able to tell he was not the criminal here. Unless he’d been there long enough to shower and change clothes, or unless he was just the accomplice of the killer. All the cops know for sure is that he was on the scene of a murder, holding a gun. Even if they do think he’s innocent, he’s a witness who may have seen something important. In any event, you immediately take him in for questioning. ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2006, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-2-spoilers/375072/46 "2006-10-03T20:23:20Z")
[QUOTE=jharvey963] Anyone scene this glyph other places? J. [/QUOTE] No, just those three, but now I’ll be watching for it. I wonder if it showed up in the first episode. ---
**Author:** ![Saltire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saltire/32/553_2.png) [@Saltire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saltire)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2006, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-2-spoilers/375072/47 "2006-10-03T20:26:32Z")
Yeah, since they placed Hiro’s teleport from Tokyo on the date of last night’s show, but not on the date of last week’s show (when he first did the Tokyo-NYC transition), I’m left wondering whether they’ll show the climax of the “stop the destruction of New York” story arc during November sweeps. I can’t tell for sure if they plan to stick to our calendar or not. While I love shows with long arcs, I like thinking that there’ll be a big payoff in a month. I expect that in true comic book style, the plan will be averted but the evildoer will escape, able to plan further mayhem. So there’ll be a larger arc of which destroying the city is but a part. Since all the heroes are being threaded together, running into each other and meeting mutual friends, my guess is that the bodies in the desert are the work of the mysterious Syler. The Anti-Nikki just lead Nikki there knowing that extra bodies in that spot will not be likely to send the cops looking for her. I’d guess that this Syler-connection will lead Nikki and the cop to meet up. They will then either go straight to New York or end up in Texas somehow to help Claire escape her dad and get to the Big Apple for the big day in November. ---
**Author:** ![running\_piglet\_cheese](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/22d042/32.png) [@running\_piglet\_cheese](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_piglet_cheese)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2006, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-2-spoilers/375072/48 "2006-10-03T20:32:27Z")
My daughter noticed the gliph too. It does keep popping up. No idea what it might mean. I am definitely getting the feeling that Mirror Girl is suffering from multiple personality disorder with one of the personalities having superpowers and the other without a clue. I personally don’t see any evidence that the one with the powers existed before Day One Genesis, just like everyone else’s. And everything she’s done so far has been to protect Stripper Girl, no evidence that any other crimes have been committed. I wonder if Hiro still has the comic when he returns to real time in Japan? That would be interesting. ---
**Author:** ![Only\_Mostly\_Dead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/f19dbf/32.png) [@Only\_Mostly\_Dead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Only_Mostly_Dead)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2006, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-2-spoilers/375072/49 "2006-10-03T20:51:21Z")
[QUOTE=Ethilrist] re: the short timeline of only five weeks: Dude, they have somebody who can travel in time. Suppose the first season is spent going over just four of the five weeks (like, say, the first season of _Lost_). During that time, he gains enough power to pop everybody back to Ocbober 3rd… and off they go into the second season. [/QUOTE] Alternatively, the first season’s timeline is set going to 11/8, which will see the Heroes preventing the cataclysmic explosion (possibly all drawn together for the first time as a full group at the final confrontation), and wrapping up with a heroic shot of them all fading to sillouette with a voiceover that “a whole new world is open before the Heroes, to protect and blahblahblah”, allowing for a second season full-season story arc that is not the explosion, but some whole new endgame. If the show lasts three or four seasons, then we’ll see all of the single-season story arcs come together as the foundation for a meta-story-arc for the ultimate showdown of good and evil, the end of the world, the Rapture, etc. P.S. - Presumably we’ll get further muddied waters in the coming weeks as new Heroes (and probably those who decide to use their newfound power selfishly and become Villains) are discovered. I was wondering where Greg Grunberg was after the first episode, and wouldn’t be surprised to see at least one or two more revealed in the coming weeks. P.P.S. - I’m smitten with Nora Zehetner. P.P.P.S. - “Constiporting” is a great word. **Otto** , you’ve done Lewis Carroll proud. ---
**Author:** ![NailBunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ecae2f/32.png) [@NailBunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NailBunny)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2006, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-2-spoilers/375072/50 "2006-10-03T21:26:40Z")
[QUOTE=jharvey963] I guess I’m surprised that no one has mentioned the glyph that appeared in at least 3 places in the episode (maybe more that I missed). The glyph: I don’t know what else to call it. It had a slightly curved “backbone” line, vaguely “S” shaped but not as curved. It had 2 crosspieces like a capital “F” at one place and a single crosspiece at another place, but sticking out the opposite direction as the two crosspieces. There were several (?) paintings of the glyph symbol in crazy artist’s studio. When the Indian scientist and his father’s friend were scrolling through the data on the jump drive, this glyph appeared on the computer screen as a “hole” in the text of the data. And in the swimming pool at the murder scene, the pool cleaner hose was arranged as this glyph. Anyone scene this glyph other places? J. [/QUOTE] Yay! I’m so glad someone saw this other than me. I didn’t point it out to Mr. Bunny ‘cause I thought I was seein’ stuff that wasn’t really there. Huh. That sentence came out a lot crazier sounding than I meant it to. ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2006, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-2-spoilers/375072/51 "2006-10-03T22:55:34Z")
[QUOTE=Only Mostly Dead] P.P.S. - I’m smitten with Nora Zehetner. [/QUOTE] As am I. Has anyone seen _Brick_ and not been? Some of the exposition has mentioned that the Heroes set out to save the world, but instead change it forever. The New York explosion could very well be a red herring. (like Communism) I like the great acting by some of the Heroes’ acquaintaces, where the hero is asking for confirmation of his or her experiences, and the friend or whomever looks like they understand, but then say “no.” ---
**Author:** ![Tristan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tristan/32/18058_2.png) [@Tristan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tristan)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2006, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-2-spoilers/375072/52 "2006-10-03T23:09:04Z")
Just want to state on record that I’m pretty sure the glyph is meant to show a broken section of DNA helix. I’m loving the show. I think what they’ve done with Hiro is establish that the future is mutable, that is to say, now that he knows these terrible things are going to happen, he can start tracking folks down to get it taken care of. He already knows about the Prognostipainter, which puts him in touch with the Flying Nurse, and his brother. It’ll be interesting to see where things go. I’m hooked, at least for now. ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2006, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-2-spoilers/375072/53 "2006-10-03T23:16:20Z")
Anyone else reading the comics? Last week’s showed us the remains of Mohinder’s dad’s cab (holy crap is the operative phrase), this week’s we see what Hiro did when he got back to Japan. ---
**Author:** ![Draelin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@Draelin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Draelin)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2006, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-2-spoilers/375072/54 "2006-10-03T23:19:56Z")
[QUOTE=garygnu] The New York explosion could very well be a red herring. (like Communism) [/QUOTE] I just wanted to make sure you knew that somebody got this joke and laughed. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2006, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-2-spoilers/375072/55 "2006-10-03T23:21:41Z")
[QUOTE=Draelin] I just wanted to make sure you knew that somebody got this joke and laughed. 🙂 [/QUOTE] 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Licentious\_Ectomorph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/5e9695/32.png) [@Licentious\_Ectomorph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Licentious_Ectomorph)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2006, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-2-spoilers/375072/56 "2006-10-03T23:37:30Z")
[QUOTE=Tengu] Anyone else reading the comics? Last week’s showed us the remains of Mohinder’s dad’s cab (holy crap is the operative phrase), this week’s we see what Hiro did when he got back to Japan. [/QUOTE] What comics? ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2006, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-2-spoilers/375072/57 "2006-10-03T23:41:09Z")
[QUOTE=Licentious Ectomorph] What comics? [/QUOTE] [These comics](http://www.nbc.com/Heroes/novels/) ---
**Author:** ![El\_Perro\_Fumando](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e9c0ed/32.png) [@El\_Perro\_Fumando](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Perro_Fumando)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2006, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-2-spoilers/375072/58 "2006-10-04T00:07:18Z")
[QUOTE=jharvey963] I guess I’m surprised that no one has mentioned the glyph that appeared in at least 3 places in the episode (maybe more that I missed). The glyph: I don’t know what else to call it. It had a slightly curved “backbone” line, vaguely “S” shaped but not as curved. It had 2 crosspieces like a capital “F” at one place and a single crosspiece at another place, but sticking out the opposite direction as the two crosspieces. There were several (?) paintings of the glyph symbol in crazy artist’s studio. When the Indian scientist and his father’s friend were scrolling through the data on the jump drive, this glyph appeared on the computer screen as a “hole” in the text of the data. And in the swimming pool at the murder scene, the pool cleaner hose was arranged as this glyph. Anyone scene this glyph other places? J. [/QUOTE] I swear I saw it on the Indian Professor’s map as a sort of weird function notation (like _f(x)_). Will have to recover it from the deleted file on the tivo to know for sure. . . ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Some\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ad7895/32.png) [@Just\_Some\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Some_Guy)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2006, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-2-spoilers/375072/59 "2006-10-04T00:57:29Z")
Every post-modern take on superheroes has one thing in common: by issue twelve one city with a population over one million is completely destroyed. Whether it’s a former kid sidekick going nuts and graphically murdering everyone in the city or a giant psychic octopus being teleported in or powers running out of control or a nuclear blast, a city must die to demonstrate that superheroes are not infalible. In fact, it’s been done so much at this point that it’s become the cliche. For that reason I think New York is going to be destroyed. They’ve got me through the November sweeps at least to see if this plays out but the writing isn’t incredibly compelling to me and I’m ready to walk away. ---
**Author:** ![Foldup\_Rabbit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/df788c/32.png) [@Foldup\_Rabbit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Foldup_Rabbit)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2006, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-2-spoilers/375072/60 "2006-10-04T01:20:10Z")
[QUOTE=Otto] The latter. Not sure if I originated the term or not. Just my cutesy way of referring to it, like calling the drugged out art guy a “prognostipainter.” [/QUOTE] I called him constipated first, but I think it was you who brilliantly melded the terms. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-2-spoilers/375072.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-2-spoilers/375072.md?page=4)