# Heroes 10/2 (spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 3, 2006, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-2-spoilers/375072 "2006-10-03T03:39:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![anyrose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@anyrose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anyrose)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2006, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-2-spoilers/375072/61 "2006-10-04T02:38:09Z")
am I the only one who thinks Syler and Claire’s Dad are one in the same? Also re: Candibro’s landslide victory - he flew all over New York taking down his opponent’s posters so no one could remember that name come election day ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2006, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-2-spoilers/375072/62 "2006-10-04T06:20:56Z")
I’m definitely still in. I agree though, if we start having to do homework to keep up, that’ll suck. But just like Lost, I’ll just blow off the homework and come to the boards for cliff notes. I caught the glyphs too! Still loving Hiro. I was happy to see Artist Guy bought it. Dang though, Hiro just time-jumped and now he’ll probably save his junkie-ass. What good are artists anyway, except for the nutritive value of their brains. Slurp, slurp. Flying Brothers are still adorable. Have to mention that at least once a week. Telepa-Cop is fun. “How’s it feel to flunk the detective exam three times?” How’d she know that? Stalker. ---
**Author:** ![devilsknew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4da419/32.png) [@devilsknew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/devilsknew)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2006, 7:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-2-spoilers/375072/63 "2006-10-04T07:19:32Z")
[QUOTE=ouryL] I presume her mirror image is an actual doppelganger-a multiple personality. Since she seems to do two things at once, she may have a twin. [/QUOTE] Yes, exactly. The Jekyll and Hyde archetype. Mixed with overtones of Dimosaic Narcissicism. Wait… didn’t they already do this in The League of Extraordainary Gentleman with Dr. Jekyll? The indestructible girls father is eating brains ala Hannibal The Cannibal Lector. Absorbing biological power as per countless X-File episodes. I LOVE HEROES! ---
**Author:** ![bouv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bc8723/32.png) [@bouv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bouv)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2006, 7:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-2-spoilers/375072/64 "2006-10-04T07:58:04Z")
[QUOTE=devilsknew] Yes, exactly. The Jekyll and Hyde archetype. Mixed with overtones of Dimosaic Narcissicism. Wait… didn’t they already do this in The League of Extraordainary Gentleman with Dr. Jekyll? The indestructible girls father is eating brains ala Hannibal The Cannibal Lector. Absorbing biological power as per countless X-File episodes. I LOVE HEROES! [/QUOTE] For the record, we have no idea if he (or anyone) is eating brains. There is no evidence that he is Syrus, or that Syrus is the killer (other than a couple detectives theory,) or that the brains are being eaten (Though I do think there is a chance Syrus is the killer.) Maybe they’re just being dissected or something. And how come no one else has mentioned the little girl’s dad being frozen solid! That is obviously someone’s (most likely the murderer’s, which means maybe Syrus’s, or some other ‘hero’s’) power. ---
**Author:** ![Honey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honey/32/5074_2.png) [@Honey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Honey)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2006, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-2-spoilers/375072/65 "2006-10-04T13:06:27Z")
This second episode had an X-Files feel about it for me. Anyway, I’m loving the show. Especially SuperHiro. ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2006, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-2-spoilers/375072/66 "2006-10-04T15:45:39Z")
A few notes: The writers aren’t being forthright about the time-stamp of any particular scene or storyline. In this it seems a bit like _Pulp Fiction_, where we see the story arc unfold, not the chronological order of events, however, with all the time travel and artistic fortune telling (flying little brother too) it could be both. They’re messing with us. In this it seems like Tom Stoppard’s play _Arcadia_. Hints are dropped for attentive viewers, but they’re using the audiences intelligence and expectations against us. It’s not unusual to attempt to outwit the audience, but the respect they’re showing us is cool. I’m working on a handy-dandy connection chart, too. Could be useful. ---
**Author:** ![Greywolf73](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/d9b06d/32.png) [@Greywolf73](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Greywolf73)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2006, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-2-spoilers/375072/67 "2006-10-04T15:54:33Z")
[QUOTE=anyrose] am I the only one who thinks Syler and Claire’s Dad are one in the same? [/QUOTE] Yep, I think the same thing. I also think that the random suburban couple that was murdered (where the little girl was hiding) were possibly Claire’s birth parents. When she started asking questions about them, Syler/her dad disposed of them. ---
**Author:** ![anyrose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@anyrose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anyrose)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2006, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-2-spoilers/375072/68 "2006-10-04T17:27:19Z")
[QUOTE=Greywolf73] Yep, I think the same thing. I also think that the random suburban couple that was murdered (where the little girl was hiding) were possibly Claire’s birth parents. When she started asking questions about them, Syler/her dad disposed of them. [/QUOTE] I think you’re right ---
**Author:** ![Baldwin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baldwin/32/7264_2.png) [@Baldwin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baldwin)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2006, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-2-spoilers/375072/69 "2006-10-04T21:48:41Z")
> [@](#): > > am I the only one who thinks Syler and Claire’s Dad are one in the same? One **and** the same. I don’t see it; Syrus (Cyrus?) seems barely in control of himself (or at least, in the voice message to the late professor, it sounded like he was doing his thing partly just for enjoyment). Evil Dad seems very organized and in control of himself. If the idea was simply to collect brains, there are probably ways to do it without attracting a lot of attention as a serial killer. Personally, I’m hoping that the whole mutants (called anything but mutants) angle is a red herring. It’s not only a cliche, but stupid on the face of it – good enough for comic book “science”, but if they’re trying to be more realistic, as the gory, ugly violence suggests, they should do better. ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2006, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-2-spoilers/375072/70 "2006-10-04T22:53:41Z")
[QUOTE=Baldwin] … Personally, I’m hoping that the whole mutants (called anything but mutants) angle is a red herring. It’s not only a cliche, but stupid on the face of it – good enough for comic book “science”, but if they’re trying to be more realistic, as the gory, ugly violence suggests, they should do better. [/QUOTE] That “angle” is a big part of the show. Finding the origin of these powers is what the characters are doing, and it’s what the audience is doing. There is just too much time devoted to a genetic origin for it to be nothing more than a red herring. Switching it to something else, like ‘they’re all imagining it,’ would turn off a big part of the audience. It’s a TV version of a comic book, plain and simple. Realism is selectively included, and the real science that would make the story impossible is replaced with scientific-looking stuff. ---
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2006, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-2-spoilers/375072/71 "2006-10-05T00:14:09Z")
Syrus could be Claire’s real dad… ---
**Author:** ![Osip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4491bb/32.png) [@Osip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Osip)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2006, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-2-spoilers/375072/72 "2006-10-05T00:18:20Z")
[QUOTE=ArchiveGuy] But she gave it back to do her Fire Walk and then ran off, so Teen Geek was left with the tape. [/QUOTE] I am curious how her father got it. ---
**Author:** ![mobo85](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b19c9b/32.png) [@mobo85](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mobo85)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2006, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-2-spoilers/375072/73 "2006-10-05T01:35:06Z")
If you have a copy of last week’s episode of the show, hold onto it- NBC plans to edit out a scene in which Cheerleader Who Cannot Get Hurt™ sticks her hand into a garbage disposal with a clearly-marked In-Sink-Erator® trademark. The In-Sink-Erator® people threatened to sue NBC because they were nervous idiots would sue them after chopping off their fingers in an attempt to copy what they saw on TV. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2006, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-2-spoilers/375072/74 "2006-10-05T01:55:32Z")
[QUOTE=mobo85] If you have a copy of last week’s episode of the show, hold onto it- NBC plans to edit out a scene in which Cheerleader Who Cannot Get Hurt™ sticks her hand into a garbage disposal with a clearly-marked In-Sink-Erator® trademark. The In-Sink-Erator® people threatened to sue NBC because they were nervous idiots would sue them after chopping off their fingers in an attempt to copy what they saw on TV. [/QUOTE] The story I saw said that they were upset that it made it look like you’d get hurt. I hope the reporter was just on drugs. > [@](#): > > Emerson’s suit claims the scene “casts the disposer in an unsavory light, irreparably tarnishing the product” by suggesting that serious injuries will result “in the event consumers were to accidentally insert their hand into one.” From [here](http://www.zap2it.com/tv/news/zap-garbagedisposalmakersuesheroes,0,1817275.story?coll=zap-tv-headlines) ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2006, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-2-spoilers/375072/75 "2006-10-05T03:55:10Z")
So In-sink-erator is suggesting that it _won’t_ cause injury to stick your hand down a running garbage disposer? ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2006, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-2-spoilers/375072/76 "2006-10-05T03:56:58Z")
[QUOTE=Otto] So In-sink-erator is suggesting that it _won’t_ cause injury to stick your hand down a running garbage disposer? [/QUOTE] That seems to be what the story claims, which is so insane I hope there is a “not” that merely got lost somewhere in translation. ---
**Author:** ![mobo85](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b19c9b/32.png) [@mobo85](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mobo85)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2006, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-2-spoilers/375072/77 "2006-10-05T20:38:28Z")
Apparently, In-Sink-Erator _is_ concerned that people will think that they will lose their fingers if they stick their hands down a garbage disposal. Presumably, I guess they mean when it isn’t running, but none of the articles say that. So go ahead- stick your fingers in a running In-Sink-Erator®! You won’t get hurt!\* [sub]\ ***WARNING:** May actually get hurt.[/sub] ---
**Author:** ![cbawlmer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/71e660/32.png) [@cbawlmer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cbawlmer)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2006, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-2-spoilers/375072/78 "2006-10-05T22:47:25Z")
So is a maker of tall structures going to sue next, because people who believe they have superpowers might jump off and (surprise!) not be able twist their bones back into place? In-Sink-Erator should be patting them on the back for demonstrating how effective their product is. Note to everyone: if you stick your hand in the disposal, you get to live the rest of your life with a hook for a hand. ---
**Author:** ![mobo85](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b19c9b/32.png) [@mobo85](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mobo85)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2006, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-2-spoilers/375072/79 "2006-10-06T02:56:17Z")
[QUOTE=cbawlmer] Note to everyone: if you stick your hand in the disposal, you get to live the rest of your life with a hook for a hand. [/QUOTE] Now you’re just encouraging the pirate buffs to go ahead and do it. (Possible safety campaign though: “Careful you must be, or you’ll end up like me- Captain In-Sink-ARRRRator!”) ---
**Author:** ![Geobabe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/geobabe/32/3908_2.png) [@Geobabe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Geobabe)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2006, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-2-spoilers/375072/80 "2006-10-06T02:56:20Z")
[QUOTE=cbawlmer] Note to everyone: if you stick your hand in the disposal, you get to live the rest of your life with a hook for a hand. [/QUOTE] A DORRANCE #5 STEEL HOOK? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-2-spoilers/375072.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-2-spoilers/375072.md?page=5)