# Heroes 10/23 "Hiro's" (spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 23, 2006, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-23-hiros-spoilers/377619 "2006-10-23T21:12:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2006, 11:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-23-hiros-spoilers/377619/161 "2006-10-26T11:33:23Z")
[QUOTE=Slacker] Haven’t we met Niki’s mother (watched Micah a couple times)? [/QUOTE] Tina has not been identified as Niki’s mother. Niki and Micah call her “Tina” as opposed to “Mom” or “Grandma.” ---
**Author:** ![HazelNutCoffee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@HazelNutCoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HazelNutCoffee)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2006, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-23-hiros-spoilers/377619/162 "2006-10-26T12:56:18Z")
Don’t you mean DL’s mother? Where have we met Niki’s mother? ---
**Author:** ![Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19adc/32.png) [@Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2006, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-23-hiros-spoilers/377619/163 "2006-10-26T13:03:12Z")
That’s not Niki’s mother, it’s her mother-in-law. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2006, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-23-hiros-spoilers/377619/164 "2006-10-26T13:15:43Z")
[QUOTE=Barbarian] That’s not Niki’s mother, it’s her mother-in-law. [/QUOTE] Known, amusingly enough, as “Texas Tina.” ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2006, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-23-hiros-spoilers/377619/165 "2006-10-26T13:19:17Z")
OK, stop. Tina is, as far as we know, not related by either blood or marriage to anyone. DL’s mother (Niki’s mother-in-law) is named Paulette. ---
**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2006, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-23-hiros-spoilers/377619/166 "2006-10-26T14:14:49Z")
[QUOTE=Otto] OK, stop. Tina is, as far as we know, not related by either blood or marriage to anyone. DL’s mother (Niki’s mother-in-law) is named Paulette. [/QUOTE] Yeah but maybe Texas Tina falls in love in Hiro, travels back in time and gives birth to both Niki and Sylar. Sylar, of course, isn’t Hiro’s child, but Peter’s father’s lovechild from outside the marriage. Peter’s father naturally gets upset over creating a brain-eating mutant baby and kills himself, but because of the temporal vortex created by Texas Tina and Hiro’s passionate lovemaking, no one notices his suicide for 30 years. I think this theory is on realistically on par with some of the other ones spouted out in Heroes threads. ---
**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2006, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-23-hiros-spoilers/377619/167 "2006-10-26T14:20:18Z")
[QUOTE=Enderw24] Yeah but maybe Texas Tina falls in love in Hiro, travels back in time and gives birth to both Niki and Sylar. Sylar, of course, isn’t Hiro’s child, but Peter’s father’s lovechild from outside the marriage. Peter’s father naturally gets upset over creating a brain-eating mutant baby and kills himself, but because of the temporal vortex created by Texas Tina and Hiro’s passionate lovemaking, no one notices his suicide for 30 years. I think this theory is on realistically on par with some of the other ones spouted out in Heroes threads. [/QUOTE] This is beginning to sound like a Dragonball Z episode. ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2006, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-23-hiros-spoilers/377619/168 "2006-10-26T14:53:02Z")
[QUOTE=Enderw24] Yeah but maybe Texas Tina falls in love in Hiro, travels back in time and gives birth to both Niki and Sylar. Sylar, of course, isn’t Hiro’s child, but Peter’s father’s lovechild from outside the marriage. Peter’s father naturally gets upset over creating a brain-eating mutant baby and kills himself, but because of the temporal vortex created by Texas Tina and Hiro’s passionate lovemaking, no one notices his suicide for 30 years. I think this theory is on realistically on par with some of the other ones spouted out in Heroes threads. [/QUOTE] My theory was much less complicated. ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2006, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-23-hiros-spoilers/377619/169 "2006-10-26T19:24:29Z")
[QUOTE=Only Mostly Dead] And we have met Cheerbleeder’s mom. The Pomeranian Woman. Don’t worry, it seems like she’s a nonentity in her family’s life, just as much as the show’s. [/QUOTE] Claire is adopted. ---
**Author:** ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2006, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-23-hiros-spoilers/377619/170 "2006-10-26T19:26:43Z")
The weird thing about the Cheerleader. She is actually a teenager in real life. The actress is 17. That makes me feel a little dirty. ---
**Author:** ![Annie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/858c86/32.png) [@Annie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2006, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-23-hiros-spoilers/377619/171 "2006-10-26T19:27:15Z")
[QUOTE=garygnu] Claire is adopted. [/QUOTE] She still could be HRG’s natural daughter. ---
**Author:** ![jackdavinci](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackdavinci/32/3259_2.png) [@jackdavinci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackdavinci)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2006, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-23-hiros-spoilers/377619/172 "2006-10-26T20:00:36Z")
[QUOTE=levdrakon] I loved that circle-shaped sonic “poof” he made when he took off. I won’t even try to fan-wank what exactly could cause that effect [/QUOTE] Planes do that when they go supersonic. I’m guessing whatever keeps his skin from getting raw when hes at top speed is the same force that keeps his PJs on. Maybe we should migrate this to HBO 😃 [QUOTE=levdrakon] “2 Million gets you a candidate in your pocket. 4 million gets you a congressman.” Big shark grin. [/QUOTE] I like how all of the heroes are not unambigously good. Congressman turns blackmail into a bribe. Cheerleader crashes QB. Hiro’s friend gets him to cheat at gambling. Nikidotcom has her deadly alterego and even before that was stripping for the web and getting money from loansharks. Prognostipainter is on smack (does Bangboy being able to paint without heroin means that Painter could too? is heroin addiction a pun for hero-in-side?). Bangboy and Telepacop seem relatively innocent as does Hiro without his friend’s influence, so far. [QUOTE=levdrakon] But, if this Linderman person has a video of Nathan & Niki does he also have a video of EvilDad snatching Nathan? [/QUOTE] I thought he snatched Telepacop. [QUOTE=levdrakon] Peter’s bangs are very comic book. I have to admit though, every time he brushes those bangs out of his face I want to tackle him and take a scissors to 'em. [/QUOTE] I love the bangs! And I found it amusing that when he is at Mohinder’s door, his playing with his bangs makes him seem like he’s flirting. [QUOTE=levdrakon] I’m liking EvilDad more and more. Can he really be evil? He’s an awfully nice evil guy. [/QUOTE] He definitely has a government-spook type of creepiness but we don’t yet know if he’s in league with Sylar do we? And were Sylar’s victims brainless or is someone else doing that? [QUOTE=levdrakon] Mohinder was a little irritating. Denial ain’t a river in Egypt and all that. Look, either you believe in all this weirdness or you don’t. Quit waffling, you big baby. [/QUOTE] Word! I was like if you don’t believe in this stuff, why did you come to America? Go back to India and be oblivious! [QUOTE=levdrakon] Niki’s husband looks to be a Kitty Pryde/Vision type. Invisibility & intangibility. Kiddo knows about dad though and I still wonder if there isn’t some strange connection between dad & son power-wise. [/QUOTE] Son seems to know that the Dad is good. I’m wondering too if kikidotcom’s alter ego commited the murders DL was blamed for. [QUOTE=levdrakon] But what an incredible lover to have. He knows _everything_ you want. [/QUOTE] Well..you need both the knowledge and the willingness to put it to use. Many men not only don’t know what you want, if you tell them, they don’t really care. Besides pleasing her under the sheets, he also was willing to run out to get her coffee and ice cream. Now that’s impressive. [QUOTE=levdrakon] Ando is hilarious. What was he thinking, walking into internet stripper’s house? Dumbass. So, Hiro & Ando still had their suitcases when they got thrown out of the van. Did they get to keep any of their money? [/QUOTE] Did anyone else think that what he meant by “I thought you could help me” and what nikidotcom thought he meant were two entirely different things? I too was wondering if they kept their money. It seemed they weren’t thrown out by the casino, they were thrown out by the guy they cheated at cards. ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2006, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-23-hiros-spoilers/377619/173 "2006-10-26T21:25:04Z")
[QUOTE=jackdavinci] I thought he snatched Telepacop. [/quote] He snatched both. [del]Sean[/del] [del]Weiss[/del] _Matt!_ got taken out of a bar the week before and Captain Congress got taken in Vegas. > [@jack](#): > > It seemed they weren’t thrown out by the casino, they were thrown out by the guy they cheated at cards. They got thrown out of the casino by staff and then the poker players got them outside. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2006, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-23-hiros-spoilers/377619/174 "2006-10-26T21:31:14Z")
[QUOTE=jackdavinci] Prognostipainter is on smack (does Bangboy being able to paint without heroin means that Painter could too? [/quote] My guess is he’s using the drugs as a crutch but doesn’t need them. Starting with his eventual revelation “we need to save her,” I won’t be surprised he starts sobering up. Maybe/probably with Peter’s help. That’s the thing with Peter. “Be the one we need.” He’s just a helper by nature. > [@](#): > > I thought he snatched Telepacop. He did. Week before last. Keep up! 😉 He snatched Telepacop, examined him in some way and erased his memory of it. “I must have drunk too much and passed out.” (For 24 hours?) He remembers working with the FBI, but I wonder if he remembers all the details about their encounter with Sylar. Where’s his new FBI buddy? Did MildlyEviDad wipe her brains too? Last week he snatched Nathan out of the hotel and I still want to know if Linderman has tapes of it and how the security was so bad two guys were able to haul a half-naked congressional candidate out of the hotel. No security cameras caught any of it? > [@](#): > > I love the bangs! And I found it amusing that when he is at Mohinder’s door, his playing with his bangs makes him seem like he’s flirting. No doubt there’s already some Mohinder/Peter slash fiction out there. ---
**Author:** ![kurilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ea5d25/32.png) [@kurilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kurilla)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2006, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-23-hiros-spoilers/377619/175 "2006-10-26T21:53:13Z")
[QUOTE=levdrakon] No doubt there’s already some Mohinder/Peter slash fiction out there. [/QUOTE] There is. But the most popular pairing, from my brief (!) search, seems to be incestuous - Peter/Nathan. There’s also a bit of Peter/Claire, which is kind of squicky, too. ---
**Author:** ![Annie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/858c86/32.png) [@Annie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2006, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-23-hiros-spoilers/377619/176 "2006-10-26T23:23:29Z")
Slash Peter seems to be quite the machine! ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2006, 11:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-23-hiros-spoilers/377619/177 "2006-10-28T11:43:47Z")
The credits said the delectable [Archie Kao](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0438055/) was in the show, but I missed him. IMDB doesn’t have his credit listed, but I remember seeing his name in the credits and going _yummy!_ ---
**Author:** ![HazelNutCoffee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@HazelNutCoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HazelNutCoffee)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2006, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-23-hiros-spoilers/377619/178 "2006-10-28T14:21:01Z")
[QUOTE=ivylass] The credits said the delectable [Archie Kao](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0438055/) was in the show, but I missed him. IMDB doesn’t have his credit listed, but I remember seeing his name in the credits and going _yummy!_ [/QUOTE] I know. I was all excited about seeing his name but he wasn’t in the show at all, or not that I noticed. ---
**Author:** ![BiblioCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@BiblioCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BiblioCat)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2006, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-23-hiros-spoilers/377619/179 "2006-10-28T15:33:47Z")
[QUOTE=HazelNutCoffee] I know. I was all excited about seeing his name… [/QUOTE] Me, too. Guess he was needed with the CSIs in Vegas. 😛 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-23-hiros-spoilers/377619.md?page=8)