# Heroes 10/29/07 - "The Line" (SPOILERS)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-29-07-the-line-spoilers/424505>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [October 29, 2007, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-29-07-the-line-spoilers/424505 "2007-10-29T22:18:50Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2007, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-29-07-the-line-spoilers/424505/1 "2007-10-29T22:18:50Z")

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Last week: Peter got his name and passport back just in time to prognosti-paint a trip to Montreal with Colleen O’Lassy or whoever. Nathan and Matt met the men of their dreams and beat the piss out of them. Mohinder blew his cover with Niki but looked smokin’ while doing it. Ando was more exciting reading about Hiro in feudal Japan than Hiro was while actually in feudal Japan. Cousin Monica went all Malcolm McLaren _and_ Sonny Chiba, and Kristen Bell was electrifying.

This week: Hope springs eternal that the titular line is of the “power” variety and West flies himself smack into it.

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**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2007, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-29-07-the-line-spoilers/424505/2 "2007-10-29T23:15:48Z")

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[QUOTE=Otto]  
Ando was more exciting reading about Hiro in feudal Japan than Hiro was while actually in feudal Japan.  
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Ain’t it the truth.

If the storyline switchoff holds true, though, this week we’ll be subjected to stalker West stinking up Claire’s storyline, and the Wonder Twins stinking up Sylar’s… and hopefully not so much of sidekick-Hiro’s not-so-excellent adventure told entirely offscreen, or Peter’s adventure in the Land O’ the Erratic Accents.

Mostly, I’m looking forward to Noah, and the Matt - Nathan duo. And accentless N’Awlins Girl.

Wonder if Niki will actually _do_ anything?

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**Author:** ![bouv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bc8723/32.png) [@bouv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bouv)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2007, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-29-07-the-line-spoilers/424505/3 "2007-10-30T01:15:54Z")

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Noah can speak Russian (I assume)? What else is he capable of?

Also, Ivan (the random Russian guy) looks so familiar. I know he’s been in _something_, but I can’t recall what.

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**Author:** ![SCSimmons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e495f1/32.png) [@SCSimmons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCSimmons)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2007, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-29-07-the-line-spoilers/424505/4 "2007-10-30T01:20:42Z")

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_Damn_, but I kick ass!

West: “What do cheerleaders fear most?”

Me: “Public humiliation!”

Claire: “Public humiliation.”

Me: :eek:

I guess my superpower is precise anticipation of cheesy dialogue! Now, how do I parlay that into fame and money?

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**Author:** ![bouv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bc8723/32.png) [@bouv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bouv)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2007, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-29-07-the-line-spoilers/424505/5 "2007-10-30T01:23:52Z")

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Ah-ha, I got it! He was Peter Parker’s landlord in Spider-Man 2 and 3.

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**Author:** ![Achren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/898d66/32.png) [@Achren](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Achren)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2007, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-29-07-the-line-spoilers/424505/6 "2007-10-30T01:25:28Z")

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Yes! Thanks, that was bugging me as well.

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**Author:** ![Frosted\_Glass](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frosted_glass/32/3926_2.png) [@Frosted\_Glass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frosted_Glass)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2007, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-29-07-the-line-spoilers/424505/7 "2007-10-30T01:35:05Z")

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This is the first time I am actually enjoying West as a character. That was hilarious.

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**Author:** ![Achren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/898d66/32.png) [@Achren](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Achren)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2007, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-29-07-the-line-spoilers/424505/8 "2007-10-30T01:43:30Z")

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_sigh_ Mohinder, you’re an idiot. You just don’t tell the evil corporation you’re leaving!

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**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2007, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-29-07-the-line-spoilers/424505/9 "2007-10-30T01:57:31Z")

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Damnit I kept getting static and ghosting and couldn’t read half the subtitles! What did Ando and the scientist say after the kiss?

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**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2007, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-29-07-the-line-spoilers/424505/10 "2007-10-30T01:59:39Z")

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[QUOTE=bouv]  
Ah-ha, I got it! He was Peter Parker’s landlord in Spider-Man 2 and 3.  
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He’s “Hey! It’s that Russian Guy!” If there’s a Russia-related scene in Hollywood he’s involved. And he’s usually named Ivan or Yuri.

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**Author:** ![HazelNutCoffee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@HazelNutCoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HazelNutCoffee)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2007, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-29-07-the-line-spoilers/424505/11 "2007-10-30T02:07:30Z")

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Argh. Another hypothetical future episode? Whyyyyyyyyyyyy?

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**Author:** ![Menocchio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de053/32.png) [@Menocchio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Menocchio)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2007, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-29-07-the-line-spoilers/424505/12 "2007-10-30T02:07:58Z")

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Wow, I thought that Maya was to biological as Ted was to nuclear, but I didn’t realize that they were going to give us the exact same plot ark as last season!

That’s actually kinda ballsy in its brazenness.

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**Author:** ![Achren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/898d66/32.png) [@Achren](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Achren)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2007, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-29-07-the-line-spoilers/424505/13 "2007-10-30T02:08:36Z")

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[QUOTE=DocCathode]  
Damnit I kept getting static and ghosting and couldn’t read half the subtitles! What did Ando and the scientist say after the kiss?  
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I believe Ando asked what came next, the scientist said that what was the last of it, Ando couldn’t believe that was all Hiro had left for him.  
Someone with a DVR will have to come along and give the specifics.  
(The Hiro storyline has become more interesting to me, yay).

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**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2007, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-29-07-the-line-spoilers/424505/14 "2007-10-30T02:11:11Z")

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[QUOTE=DocCathode]  
Damnit I kept getting static and ghosting and couldn’t read half the subtitles! What did Ando and the scientist say after the kiss?  
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The scientist apologized that there wasn’t any more scroll and Ando said something about how there had to be because his friend wasn’t back yet.

How about that, West actually slightly engaged my interest as a character. He’s out to corrupt Claire, but to what end?

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**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2007, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-29-07-the-line-spoilers/424505/15 "2007-10-30T02:14:38Z")

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And another episode in which Niki does absolutely nothing _to my complete non-surprise_. If that even _was_ Niki, and not Jessica. Feh.

West has dragged Claire’s plotline into complete annoyance. At least all the other Heroes _seem_ to be moving vaguely and slooooowly toward relevance of the central storyline ('cept maybe Hiro). But after saving the world last season, now Claire is busy getting one-up on mean cheerleaders. Didn’t we see _that_ plot last season, too?

Once again, all the action in Hiro’s storyline takes place offscreen. Just when some action is _about_ to take place, Hiro teleports away so as to save the show’s budget.

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2007, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-29-07-the-line-spoilers/424505/16 "2007-10-30T02:15:40Z")

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[QUOTE=Menocchio]  
Wow, I thought that Maya was to biological as Ted was to nuclear, but I didn’t realize that they were going to give us the exact same plot ark as last season!

That’s actually kinda ballsy in its brazenness.  
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I’m confused. Maya’s arc doesn’t seem anything like Ted’s at all.

Aside from accidentally killing people with their powers. But Ted’s came from a power boost from The Company and Maya’s was natural.

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**Author:** ![Sir\_Prize](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d2c977/32.png) [@Sir\_Prize](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_Prize)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2007, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-29-07-the-line-spoilers/424505/17 "2007-10-30T02:21:55Z")

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Maya and company crossed the border  
Maya used her power deliberately (but I think she did it last time)  
Noah killed the Russian (but that is nothing new)  
Hiro kissed the girl (finally)  
Mohinder refused to follow company orders

Assuming that the title of the episode referrers to crossing the line, that’s all I came up with. Did the title have a different meaning?

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**Author:** ![Sir\_Prize](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d2c977/32.png) [@Sir\_Prize](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_Prize)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2007, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-29-07-the-line-spoilers/424505/18 "2007-10-30T02:24:24Z")

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[QUOTE=Justin\_Bailey]  
Ted’s came from a power boost from The Company…  
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That was Ted’s paranoia. His power was natural. The company just injected him with their tracer like the other heros.

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**Author:** ![drm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a88e57/32.png) [@drm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drm)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2007, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-29-07-the-line-spoilers/424505/19 "2007-10-30T02:24:40Z")

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Anybody know what happened after Peter picked up the Mandatory Evac. sign? My PVR stopped recording at that point.

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**Author:** ![HazelNutCoffee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@HazelNutCoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HazelNutCoffee)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2007, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-29-07-the-line-spoilers/424505/20 "2007-10-30T02:25:23Z")

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[QUOTE=Justin\_Bailey]  
I’m confused. Maya’s arc doesn’t seem anything like Ted’s at all.

Aside from accidentally killing people with their powers. But Ted’s came from a power boost from The Company and Maya’s was natural.  
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I think the future in which Peter and What’sherface have found themselves is supposed to be a result of Maya’s powers gone crazy.

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