# Heroes 10/30 - "Better Halves" (spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 31, 2006, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-30-better-halves-spoilers/378533 "2006-10-31T02:17:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2006, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-30-better-halves-spoilers/378533/121 "2006-11-01T21:02:12Z")
How about they way they rescue the cheerleader is that Hiro looks at the painting and teleports them there? ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2006, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-30-better-halves-spoilers/378533/122 "2006-11-01T21:04:28Z")
[QUOTE=The Controvert] Yeah, it looks like they’re going to Odessa Texas in the Nov. 20th episode. There are a number of pictures on the [nbc.com](http://nbc.com) [forums](http://boards.nbc.com/nbc/index.php?showtopic=696568) . (possible spoiler alert!) [/QUOTE] Yeah, because putting in your post openly what’s going to happen in an episode three weeks from now isn’t at all a spoiler. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![kurilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ea5d25/32.png) [@kurilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kurilla)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2006, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-30-better-halves-spoilers/378533/123 "2006-11-01T21:16:12Z")
[QUOTE=Ethilrist] How about they way they rescue the cheerleader is that Hiro looks at the painting and teleports them there? [/QUOTE] We haven’t seen any evidence that Hiro can teleport anyone other than himself, have we? (Great idea, though.) ---
**Author:** ![Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19adc/32.png) [@Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2006, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-30-better-halves-spoilers/378533/124 "2006-11-01T21:19:23Z")
Part of me is wondering if Mohinder’s voiceover every week is a giant red herring. We’ve already learned that Claire had “a chromosomal problem” as a kid, and Mirror Niki has the vanishing glyph tattoo. Is it possible that these people are the subjects of genetic engineering? Or that, like _Wild Cards_, some mutagen was released into the atmosphere and only a select few are affected? ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2006, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-30-better-halves-spoilers/378533/125 "2006-11-01T21:46:40Z")
[QUOTE=Barbarian] Part of me is wondering if Mohinder’s voiceover every week is a giant red herring. We’ve already learned that Claire had “a chromosomal problem” as a kid, and Mirror Niki has the vanishing glyph tattoo. Is it possible that these people are the subjects of genetic engineering? Or that, like _Wild Cards_, some mutagen was released into the atmosphere and only a select few are affected? [/QUOTE] ☹ Please don’t mention _Wild Cards_. I think this show makes it even less likely for there to be a \*Wild Cards \* adaption on TV. I like _Heroes_ but it’s no _Wild Cards_. ---
**Author:** ![mazinger\_z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5f9b8f/32.png) [@mazinger\_z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mazinger_z)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2006, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-30-better-halves-spoilers/378533/126 "2006-11-01T21:53:20Z")
[QUOTE=Lightnin’] Has there been a single scene around the Cheerbleeder/EvilDad household which indicates that he spends a lot of time travelling? [/QUOTE] Yeah, in the first scene where Cheerbleader greets EvidDad as he comes home from a “business trip.” The viewer feels, from the scene, that Dad is away a lot, and mom is concentrating on her dog, which gives a sort of laissez-faire attitude towards parenting. 2nd ep, I believe. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2006, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-30-better-halves-spoilers/378533/127 "2006-11-01T22:25:41Z")
Niki is dead: The Narrorator at end of the ep restated the entire “Evolution is a brutal process” dialouge. We ended the ep on talking about extinction of a species. I don’t think that we would have Niki with a fight, and this discourse, if she is still alive. Further, Niki became expendable the moment we found out that her husband is a ‘‘Hero’’ also. Niki has no further value to the show. ((Everything about here character has rapped up // moved to her husband)) Im gonna get on board as well, that “Evil Dad” is not the biggest threat, or is not “all that evil” relatively speaking. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2006, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-30-better-halves-spoilers/378533/128 "2006-11-01T22:44:12Z")
[QUOTE=Meeko] Niki is dead: The Narrorator at end of the ep restated the entire “Evolution is a brutal process” dialouge. We ended the ep on talking about extinction of a species. I don’t think that we would have Niki with a fight, and this discourse, if she is still alive. Further, Niki became expendable the moment we found out that her husband is a ‘‘Hero’’ also. Niki has no further value to the show. ((Everything about here character has rapped up // moved to her husband)) Im gonna get on board as well, that “Evil Dad” is not the biggest threat, or is not “all that evil” relatively speaking. [/QUOTE] See again my previous posts. It’s _Ali Larter_. She’s being pushed as one of the stars of the show. Her picture is plastered all over the NBC website. She is smoking hot. No way she is dead. Go to [NBC.com](http://NBC.com) and look at the end of the episode. They made certain to show that DL choked her. He knocked her out, he didn’t kill her. It’s pretty clear if you watch it again. Nothing has been wrapped. Now we have her going after DL and their child. Just because DL is a “Hero” doesn’t mean Niki is. Seems to me she is a villian. ---
**Author:** ![cbawlmer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/71e660/32.png) [@cbawlmer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cbawlmer)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2006, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-30-better-halves-spoilers/378533/129 "2006-11-01T22:49:07Z")
[QUOTE=Meeko] Niki is dead: The Narrorator at end of the ep restated the entire “Evolution is a brutal process” dialouge. We ended the ep on talking about extinction of a species. I don’t think that we would have Niki with a fight, and this discourse, if she is still alive. Further, Niki became expendable the moment we found out that her husband is a ‘‘Hero’’ also. Niki has no further value to the show. ((Everything about here character has rapped up // moved to her husband)) [/QUOTE] I guess none of the other powered characters have value either, by that logic. And **Loach** , she may be both hero _and_ villain. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2006, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-30-better-halves-spoilers/378533/130 "2006-11-01T22:57:07Z")
[QUOTE=cbawlmer] I guess none of the other powered characters have value either, by that logic. And **Loach** , she may be both hero _and_ villain. [/QUOTE] True. Good Niki may have powers we haven’t seen yet. ---
**Author:** ![running\_piglet\_cheese](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/22d042/32.png) [@running\_piglet\_cheese](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_piglet_cheese)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2006, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-30-better-halves-spoilers/378533/131 "2006-11-01T23:17:52Z")
I remember one scene from the previews that show Niki telling DL “But I can’t control it.” So obviously she’s still around and there is at least the possibility that she may be able to control ikiN and use her powers. How about if DL and Micah break down driving out of Vegas and Hiro & Ando pick them up. That would at least get those factions together. And perhaps there will be a newspaper story about some tragedy with the cheerleader miraculously escaping injury and that alerts those looking for her. ---
**Author:** ![kurilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ea5d25/32.png) [@kurilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kurilla)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2006, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-30-better-halves-spoilers/378533/132 "2006-11-02T01:09:32Z")
[QUOTE=running piglet cheese] How about if DL and Micah break down driving out of Vegas and Hiro & Ando pick them up. That would at least get those factions together. [/QUOTE] The preview seemed to indicate something similar to this, IIRC. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2006, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-30-better-halves-spoilers/378533/133 "2006-11-02T04:58:40Z")
[QUOTE=Otto] Hiro. The beginning of the end of his innocence. Excellent scene between him and Ando after the poker massacre, with Ando restoring his spirit. But clearly Hiro has been subtly changed. [/QUOTE] I kept thinking Ando should just say “those guys were a bunch of shady guys that might’ve killed us. If you’d have died trying to save them, you might not have a chance to save the whole world. You can’t save everyone” [QUOTE=Barbarian] Know what I giggle at in this show? Every time we see that Nissan Versa, _it’s not moving_. That’s got to be the best swipe at product placement ever. _Yeah, we took their money, but, it’s not like we have to show people the car performs or anything._ [/QUOTE] In _Fight Club_, the studio forced them to do product placement - so they would feature the products prominently during scenes of violence deliberately. It’s weirding me out slightly that from some angles, Ali Larter looks almost exactly like Julie Bowen (of Ed, and other stuff). And at other angles, there’s barely any resemblance at all. But very similar facial structure, cheek bones, occular cavities.. but Larter is more.. angular… harsh. Less pleasant. But even weirder, while Larter usually talks in a different tone of voice, when she does use some tones they sound almost exactly alike. Not only in voice, but they have a very similar… not exactly accent, but the way they inflect certain words. It’s uncanny sometimes. Weirds me out. Oddly, while Julie Bowen is one of my major TV crushes, I don’t find Larter especially attractive. I mean, obviously she’s attractive, but in that nothing-special-every-woman-on-tv-is-attractive sort of way. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Perro\_Fumando](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e9c0ed/32.png) [@El\_Perro\_Fumando](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Perro_Fumando)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2006, 11:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-30-better-halves-spoilers/378533/134 "2006-11-02T11:33:37Z")
I’m late on this train, but I just watched it last night. The only thing that really jumped at me was the thought that Prognostipainter’s brain should be gone sometime in the next two episodes if we’re sticking to real time. (This was brought up in an older thread regarding the episode from 10/2.) I don’t know that I like that idea now that it’s so close, but they haven’t been mentioning dates in the show, so they could still do it. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2006, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-30-better-halves-spoilers/378533/135 "2006-11-02T14:43:04Z")
[QUOTE=El Perro Fumando] I’m late on this train, but I just watched it last night. The only thing that really jumped at me was the thought that Prognostipainter’s brain should be gone sometime in the next two episodes if we’re sticking to real time. (This was brought up in an older thread regarding the episode from 10/2.) I don’t know that I like that idea now that it’s so close, but they haven’t been mentioning dates in the show, so they could still do it. [/QUOTE] No, they’re running this like _Lost_–it’s only a day or two per episode. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2006, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-30-better-halves-spoilers/378533/136 "2006-11-02T14:56:52Z")
[QUOTE=Ethilrist] No, they’re running this like _Lost_–it’s only a day or two per episode. [/QUOTE] I have a feeling that the season finale will be on the day of the nuke. Probably the first show of next season too since I’m sure it will be a cliffhanger. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2006, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-30-better-halves-spoilers/378533/137 "2006-11-02T16:34:50Z")
[QUOTE=El Perro Fumando] I’m late on this train, but I just watched it last night. The only thing that really jumped at me was the thought that Prognostipainter’s brain should be gone sometime in the next two episodes if we’re sticking to real time. (This was brought up in an older thread regarding the episode from 10/2.) I don’t know that I like that idea now that it’s so close, but they haven’t been mentioning dates in the show, so they could still do it. [/QUOTE] But isn’t Hiro deliberately trying to change the future? Apparently there’s less risk of a rift changing the future than changing the past. I didn’t care for E-Sock that much at the start of the show but he’s becoming more palatable. Or should I say palettable? ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2006, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-30-better-halves-spoilers/378533/138 "2006-11-02T17:19:49Z")
[QUOTE=levdrakon] I didn’t care for E-Sock that much at the start of the show but he’s becoming more palatable. Or should I say palettable? [/QUOTE] I think you misspelled “doable”. ---
**Author:** ![BigDummy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee59a6/32.png) [@BigDummy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigDummy)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2006, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-30-better-halves-spoilers/378533/139 "2006-11-02T19:43:20Z")
[QUOTE=Saltire] My list wasn’t about where they’d meet, but more about how they’d know where to find her. [/QUOTE] You don’t think it could have something to do with the painting they said was missing? When they said the stuff he painted fit together like a comic book, but they were missing the first first panel in Claire’s sequence because the ex-girlfriend had taken it to sell? They kind of made a point to talk about that. ---
**Author:** ![Saltire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saltire/32/553_2.png) [@Saltire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saltire)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2006, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-30-better-halves-spoilers/378533/140 "2006-11-02T19:49:26Z")
[QUOTE=BigDummy] You don’t think it could have something to do with the painting they said was missing? When they said the stuff he painted fit together like a comic book, but they were missing the first first panel in Claire’s sequence because the ex-girlfriend had taken it to sell? They kind of made a point to talk about that. [/QUOTE] You’re right. I forgot all about that, but I’ll bet the painting, when we see it, will have a sign in it saying, “Odessa High–Odessa, TX”. Or at least show the cheerleader uniform well enough for them to figure the rest out. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-30-better-halves-spoilers/378533.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-30-better-halves-spoilers/378533.md?page=8)