# Heroes 10/6/2008 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 7, 2008, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-6-2008/466784 "2008-10-07T02:30:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2008, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-6-2008/466784/61 "2008-10-08T19:54:01Z")
> [@Lightray](#): > > IIRC, the third triplet was not named “Jessica”, which was (evil) ikiN, yes? Yeah, I thought he said “Barbara” or something. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2008, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-6-2008/466784/62 "2008-10-08T19:55:50Z")
> [@levdrakon](#): > > Yeah, I thought he said “Barbara” or something. He did. He also asked last week if she was Barbara when he answered the door. ---
**Author:** ![Kaio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/c68b51/32.png) [@Kaio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kaio)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2008, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-6-2008/466784/63 "2008-10-08T19:56:27Z")
> [@Homebrew](#): > > Or better yet, why wasn’t the paper on which the formula was written destroyed rather than torn in two and the pieces kept separate? Same reason the virus wasn’t destroyed – the bigwigs in the Company are unwilling to relinquish that power. They didn’t want the virus _gone_, they simply wanted to be the ones controlling it (presumably so they could continue researching other variants to eventually get to the virus that destroys someone’s powers without killing them). Same here – they don’t want just anyone to be able to gain powers, true, but they _do_ want to be the ones to decide who gets them and when. They’ve decided that they’re the best ones to be making those decisions. The Company very sloppily walks the line between “protecting/saving the world” and playing God. They do it very badly, and get very easily corrupted by their power, but they still want to be in charge too much to stop. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2008, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-6-2008/466784/64 "2008-10-08T20:25:10Z")
> [@Lightray](#): > > Also, are identical triplets even possible? Yep. [About one in 150,000 births, it seems.](http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/video/Special-delivery-Rare-identical-triplets.4029254.jp) Richard “John-Boy” Thomas had a set with Alma Gonzales. But if genetic engineering was involved in making the Nikis, all bets are off. It would actually be more realistic if they weren’t exactly identical in appearance, since even genetically-identical children start to diverge by the time they get into their thirties, as Ali Larter is. At the very least, a different hairstyle would’ve helped. ---
**Author:** ![Kivick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/65b543/32.png) [@Kivick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kivick)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2008, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-6-2008/466784/65 "2008-10-08T20:56:50Z")
> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#): > > I really like this show and don’t really like to nitpick it, but am I the only one who found it almost impossible to belive that the Ice Lady was just NOW finding out about her ability? Iam with you on both points. Mohinder figured out the formula because powers were tied to adrenaline. Surely she would have had the fight or flight response growing up. Unless she is a clone recently hatched and rapidly aged.. Also Why did Present Peter cut Future Nathans head with TK if he could just absorb the power that was triggering his “hunger”? And I didnt watch season one: Who is the “ghost” that Nathan is seeing? Some previous bad guy? (besides being Malcom McDowell) ---
**Author:** ![Kaio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/c68b51/32.png) [@Kaio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kaio)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2008, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-6-2008/466784/66 "2008-10-08T20:59:20Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > But if genetic engineering was involved in making the Nikis, all bets are off. It would actually be more realistic if they weren’t exactly identical in appearance, since even genetically-identical children start to diverge by the time they get into their thirties, as Ali Larter is. At the very least, a different hairstyle would’ve helped. Eh. I am acquainted with a set of identical triplets IRL who are in their late 30s and I still can’t tell them apart. My only saving grace is that W is the one most likely to be hanging out in the places I hang out. He’s also married, so if his wife is there it’s a good bet it’s him. However, when W and E were in the same room, I very nearly called E by the wrong name. Someone else called him by the correct name first, so luckily I never had a chance to embarrass myself. 🙂 They don’t help me with hairstyles, either. They’re all shaved bald with a goatee. None of 'em are getting middle-age spread, either, so I can’t even use varying gut sizes to tell them apart. ---
**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2008, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-6-2008/466784/67 "2008-10-08T21:04:38Z")
> [@Kivick](#): > > Iam with you on both points. Mohinder figured out the formula because powers were tied to adrenaline. Surely she would have had the fight or flight response growing up. Unless she is a clone recently hatched and rapidly aged.. > > Also > Why did Present Peter cut Future Nathans head with TK if he could just absorb the power that was triggering his “hunger”? > > And > I didnt watch season one: Who is the “ghost” that Nathan is seeing? Some previous bad guy? (besides being Malcom McDowell) 1. Keep in mind, Mohinder figured out the formula _wrong_. So, whatever is the trigger, his assumption that it is just adrenaline is incorrect. 2. Present Peter already has Future Nathan’s power. The “hunger” was making him want to _figure out what makes Nathan tick_, so to speak. He wanted to see what was going on in Nathan’s brain giving him his power. (or, Sylar lied and Peter now just wants some tasty, tasty braaaaains!). 3. That is the ghost of Mr. Linderman, who was the behind-the-scenes Bad Guy in season 1. He ran The Company that Noah works for, which Mr. Alchemist briefly ran, and which Mama Petrelli is now running. He could heal people as his power, and at one point in time he was setting up Nathan to become a Congressman (with an eye to eventual presidency) in conjunction with their zany “Let’s blow up New York!” plan. He was overcome by an unfortunate case of the deads when someone put a fist into his head. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2008, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-6-2008/466784/68 "2008-10-08T21:11:35Z")
> [@Kivick](#): > > I didnt watch season one: Who is the “ghost” that Nathan is seeing? Some previous bad guy? (besides being Malcom McDowell) Linderman. He was a mysterious, unseen behind-the-scenes rich businessman guy manipulating things in season one. He was supposedly responsible for Nathan & Peter’s father’s death, as well as buying Nathan’s political future. He also had control of Niki. Eventually he was revealed to be one of the elder supers (with the power to heal people) and part of the Company, working to shape humanity to their own ends, basically. He got killeded. ---
**Author:** ![Kaio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/c68b51/32.png) [@Kaio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kaio)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2008, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-6-2008/466784/69 "2008-10-08T21:16:38Z")
> [@Lightray](#): > > 1. Keep in mind, Mohinder figured out the formula _wrong_. So, whatever is the trigger, his assumption that it is just adrenaline is incorrect. There’s probably some sort of brain chemistry thing going on also/instead, given that Sylar pokes through his victims’ brains and not their adrenal glands. For something as complex as a super-power, logically I’d think that the source of it is a whole combination of things. Part brain, part adrenal system, part other hormones, part a few other things. ---
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2008, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-6-2008/466784/70 "2008-10-09T00:21:21Z")
> [@woodstockbirdybird](#): > > The thing that bothered me most about this episode was that Molly (is that the little girl’s name) seemed to be her present age 4 years into the future - shouldn’t they have at least got a different actress for the part of future Molly? Stupid. Sylar in the present doesn’t have a child yet, does he? The kid four years into the future looked 4 or 5…no way that kid was 3. ---
**Author:** ![CaerieD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/da6949/32.png) [@CaerieD](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaerieD)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2008, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-6-2008/466784/71 "2008-10-09T00:43:24Z")
> [@elfkin477](#): > > Sylar in the present doesn’t have a child yet, does he? The kid four years into the future looked 4 or 5…no way that kid was 3. Well, maybe Sylar steals the ability to de-age people and turns Noah into an infant at some point during this season, and this is why Claire accused him of taking everything away from her? It makes almost as much sense as Sylar having a rapidly aged child in the intervening four years. ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2008, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-6-2008/466784/72 "2008-10-09T01:54:44Z")
> [@CaerieD](#): > > Well, maybe Sylar steals the ability to de-age people and turns Noah into an infant at some point during this season, and this is why Claire accused him of taking everything away from her? > > It makes almost as much sense as Sylar having a rapidly aged child in the intervening four years. I love the idea of Sylar raising a de-aged Noah. It’s just so awesomely weird. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_In\_A\_Top\_Hat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f6c823/32.png) [@Cat\_In\_A\_Top\_Hat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_In_A_Top_Hat)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2008, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-6-2008/466784/73 "2008-10-09T02:45:06Z")
> [@Lightray](#): > > I also suspect that Claire turned bad because she ran out of blond hairdye. Yeah, about that. Why does she all of a sudden decide that she’s gotta be tough and express this by putting on lots of eyeliner, putting her hair in a ponytail, dressing in leather, and toting a gun around? “Time to grow up, best way to do that is to bring back the 90’s Anti-Hero”? I wonder if she’s read Kingdom Come… ---
**Author:** ![CaerieD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/da6949/32.png) [@CaerieD](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaerieD)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2008, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-6-2008/466784/74 "2008-10-09T02:53:23Z")
**Wile E** , I sincerely doubt it’s true, but if it is, you read it here first! ---
**Author:** ![Rucksinator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/898d66/32.png) [@Rucksinator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rucksinator)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2008, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-6-2008/466784/75 "2008-10-09T03:26:44Z")
> [@Cat\_In\_A\_Top\_Hat](#): > > Yeah, about that. Why does she all of a sudden decide that she’s gotta be tough and express this by putting on lots of eyeliner, putting her hair in a ponytail, dressing in leather, and toting a gun around? “Time to grow up, best way to do that is to bring back the 90’s Anti-Hero”? I wonder if she’s read Kingdom Come… Claire didn’t turn bad. She turned herself into a “super-hero”, which she was working on in the present version of these latest episodes. (Apparently, her bio-mom didn’t convince her otherwise.) Peter obviously did things that made the world hate him. Claire and her super-friends went on a mission to rid the world of the evil that they consider Peter to be. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2008, 11:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-6-2008/466784/76 "2008-10-09T11:48:28Z")
> [@Rucksinator](#): > > Claire didn’t turn bad. She turned herself into a “super-hero”, which she was working on in the present version of these latest episodes. (Apparently, her bio-mom didn’t convince her otherwise.) Peter obviously did things that made the world hate him. Claire and her super-friends went on a mission to rid the world of the evil that they consider Peter to be. The big question is: Who were they working for? I doubt it was the Company. I couldn’t see Fear Guy going to work for the same people who kept him in Level Five for however many years. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2008, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-6-2008/466784/77 "2008-10-09T13:01:35Z")
> [@CaerieD](#): > > **Wile E** , I sincerely doubt it’s true, but if it is, you read it here first! If we find out it is true 4 or 5 episodes from now, we’ll also know that \*Heroes/i] writers read it here first. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2008, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-6-2008/466784/78 "2008-10-09T13:20:02Z")
> [@Wile\_E](#): > > I love the idea of Sylar raising a de-aged Noah. It’s just so awesomely weird. It would also wrap up nicely how Sylar has a five or six year old child, and is living in the Bennetts’ house. ---
**Author:** ![Cuckoorex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ad7895/32.png) [@Cuckoorex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cuckoorex)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2008, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-6-2008/466784/79 "2008-10-09T13:50:22Z")
He could have adopted the child. Certainly wouldn’t be the first time someone was adopted on this show. ---
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2008, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-6-2008/466784/80 "2008-10-09T16:08:44Z")
> [@CaerieD](#): > > Well, maybe Sylar steals the ability to de-age people and turns Noah into an infant at some point during this season, and this is why Claire accused him of taking everything away from her? That is such a strange idea. I love it. They’ll need to get the [Pacifier](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sky_High_(2005_film)) from Royal Pain to turn him into a baby, though. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-6-2008/466784.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-6-2008/466784.md?page=5)