# Heroes 10/9 - "One Giant Leap"

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-9-one-giant-leap/375856>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [October 9, 2006, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-9-one-giant-leap/375856 "2006-10-09T23:22:34Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![HazelNutCoffee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@HazelNutCoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HazelNutCoffee)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2006, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-9-one-giant-leap/375856/21 "2006-10-10T02:22:04Z")

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Assuming it is Syler, what exactly are his powers? Mind control? Maybe that links to why he eats brains? Does he only eat the brains of other heroes? So perhaps the little girl has powers as well?

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**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2006, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-9-one-giant-leap/375856/22 "2006-10-10T02:22:37Z")

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I need to type faster or not think so much.

[QUOTE=AuntiePam]  
After Hiro saved the little girl, my station went to four minutes of commercials --the same three ads, shown twice, with the NBC logo in the middle of them. It was odd.

When they finally got back to the show, Nikki’s son was getting into the car, it was daylight and she was pulling the car onto the highway and saying “We’re on our way to grandma’s house.”

Did I miss anything?  
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You missed Niki (only one “k”, y’all) finding the skull ring and finishing burying the two dead thugs. And Micah wasn’t getting into the car; he’d been asleep in th back seat.

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**Author:** ![Achren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/898d66/32.png) [@Achren](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Achren)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2006, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-9-one-giant-leap/375856/23 "2006-10-10T02:25:14Z")

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Whoever it was…threw the female FBI agent, get her to point her gun at her own head, healed or something after being shot and then vanished.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2006, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-9-one-giant-leap/375856/24 "2006-10-10T02:25:18Z")

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Thanks for the glyph info. I’ll keep an eye out for them next week.

Re Syler: last week I thought he was Claire’s dad. Now, I think he isn’t. It seems there may be two sets of bad guys.

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**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2006, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-9-one-giant-leap/375856/25 "2006-10-10T02:26:09Z")

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[QUOTE=Otto]

Do we think the mysterious figure after the girl is actually Syler?  
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No. Lindeman is just a mobster. He has flunkies. He is fallible.

Syler has evaded the cops shown a variety of powers, broken into a police station, survived being shot (seemingly without injury) and can fly, teleport, or turn invisible (whatever he did to get away).

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**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2006, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-9-one-giant-leap/375856/26 "2006-10-10T02:27:56Z")

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[Glyph](http://www.9thwonders.com/gallery/12.gif)

It may also be a drawing of the edges of the sun and moon (along with some clouds) during an apocalypse.

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**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2006, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-9-one-giant-leap/375856/27 "2006-10-10T02:29:58Z")

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[QUOTE=DocCathode]  
[Glyph](http://www.9thwonders.com/gallery/12.gif)

It may also be a drawing of the edges of the sun and moon (along with some clouds) during an apocalypse.  
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during an _eclipse_! during an eclipse.

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**Author:** ![HazelNutCoffee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@HazelNutCoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HazelNutCoffee)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2006, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-9-one-giant-leap/375856/28 "2006-10-10T02:33:03Z")

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[QUOTE=DocCathode]  
No. Lindeman is just a mobster. He has flunkies. He is fallible.

Syler has evaded the cops shown a variety of powers, broken into a police station, survived being shot (seemingly without injury) and can fly, teleport, or turn invisible (whatever he did to get away).  
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Um. That is the “mysterious figure after the girl.” We’ve never seen Linderman on this show, just heard his name mentioned.

Syler, it seems, is another superhuman, but one that’s apparently evil. He can move things with his mind, I think, which would explain how he forced the agent to almost shoot herself. He eats brains. He is looking for other superhumans, which suggests he eats their brains specifically (which is why I think that the surviving girl may have powers as well, since Syler came back for her). Perhaps that strengthens his powers, or gives him new ones. Last week’s episode suggests that Mohinder’s father discovered Syler in his own quest to find these superhumans and helped Syler realize the potential of his abilities.

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**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2006, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-9-one-giant-leap/375856/29 "2006-10-10T02:36:15Z")

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[QUOTE=Otto]

You missed Niki (only one “k”, y’all) finding the skull ring and finishing burying the two dead thugs. And Micah wasn’t getting into the car; he’d been asleep in the back seat.  
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Okay. I didn’t see any burying. I did see Niki find the skull ring – that was in an earlier scene.

I just replayed the scene after the commercials, and it looks like Niki’s son was moving from the back seat into the front seat.

But I didn’t see him wake up. Niki’s saying “on our way to grandma’s house”, like he had asked where they were going. Maybe the station screwed up with the ads and they ran a bit long.

I’m a bit disappointed that the previews removed any doubt about Claire’s dad being evil.

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**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2006, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-9-one-giant-leap/375856/30 "2006-10-10T02:43:42Z")

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[QUOTE=DocCathode]  
No. Lindeman is just a mobster. He has flunkies. He is fallible.

Syler has evaded the cops shown a variety of powers, broken into a police station, survived being shot (seemingly without injury) and can fly, teleport, or turn invisible (whatever he did to get away).  
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Not sure why you brought Linderman into this since I was talking about the mysterious figure who was after the young girl who was saved by telepa-cop. I generally don’t refer to adult women as “girls” and I refer to Niki as “Niki.”

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**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2006, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-9-one-giant-leap/375856/31 "2006-10-10T02:46:40Z")

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[QUOTE=Otto]  
Not sure why you brought Linderman into this since I was talking about the mysterious figure who was after the young girl who was saved by telepa-cop. I generally don’t refer to adult women as “girls” and I refer to Niki as “Niki.”  
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Nobody mentioned an apocalypse either. I’ve got too many windows open

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**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2006, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-9-one-giant-leap/375856/32 "2006-10-10T02:58:49Z")

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It was on Claire’s books as she removed 'em from her locker.

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**Author:** ![Misnomer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misnomer/32/14897_2.png) [@Misnomer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Misnomer)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2006, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-9-one-giant-leap/375856/33 "2006-10-10T02:59:29Z")

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[QUOTE=AuntiePam]  
I’m a bit disappointed that the previews removed any doubt about Claire’s dad being evil.  
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I thought we knew that in the first episode. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2006, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-9-one-giant-leap/375856/34 "2006-10-10T03:02:11Z")

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[QUOTE=E-Sabbath]  
It was on Claire’s books as she removed 'em from her locker.  
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[Gotta be quicker than that](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=7853817&postcount=4).

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**Author:** ![Priam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/77aa72/32.png) [@Priam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Priam)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2006, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-9-one-giant-leap/375856/35 "2006-10-10T03:10:30Z")

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RE: The glyph

I’m totally favoring the interpretation that it’s a stylized DNA strand, given the shows “mutant” or “evolutionary” premise for superhero abilities.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2006, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-9-one-giant-leap/375856/36 "2006-10-10T03:13:16Z")

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For all of Claire’s healing ability, she sure does suffer “fatal” accidents a lot. Normal people would get tackled and break an arm. She gets her neck broken. Normal people would fight off a rapist and break an arm. She gets a tree through her head. One such incident would be unusual. Two is just weird.

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**Author:** ![HazelNutCoffee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@HazelNutCoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HazelNutCoffee)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2006, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-9-one-giant-leap/375856/37 "2006-10-10T03:19:49Z")

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[QUOTE=jsgoddess]  
For all of Claire’s healing ability, she sure does suffer “fatal” accidents a lot. Normal people would get tackled and break an arm. She gets her neck broken. Normal people would fight off a rapist and break an arm. She gets a tree through her head. One such incident would be unusual. Two is just weird.  
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And it was the same guy both times, wasn’t it?

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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2006, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-9-one-giant-leap/375856/38 "2006-10-10T03:21:53Z")

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Blatant product placement is funny.

Sylar, or his accomplice\* that went after the girl, looks to be telekinetic - explains throwing the cop chick, and holding her gun to her head, and flying away. Might have other powers, as well, but those are the powers he’s displaying here.

- Either he has at least one accomplice, or he has a really broad set of powers, based on the scene where the little girl was originally found, with the flash frozen father, and the mother lifted higher than should have been possible.

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**Author:** ![Misnomer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misnomer/32/14897_2.png) [@Misnomer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Misnomer)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2006, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-9-one-giant-leap/375856/39 "2006-10-10T03:37:13Z")

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[QUOTE=HazelNutCoffee]  
And it was the same guy both times, wasn’t it?  
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Woah. :eek:

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**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2006, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-9-one-giant-leap/375856/40 "2006-10-10T03:39:31Z")

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Questions: Where is Claire, in a morgue, or a Secret Morgue? How long has she been dead for?

Sylar: Well, we have a name spelling… but what was that key for?

Hiro: This guy won’t look good in spandex. Any thoughts on a costume?

Observation: There’s a Superman theme to the politician thread. Red and blue popping up everywhere. And a distinct reference to a ‘nosy reporter poking around.’

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