# Heroes 10/9 - "One Giant Leap" **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 9, 2006, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-9-one-giant-leap/375856 "2006-10-09T23:22:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Archergal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c89c15/32.png) [@Archergal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Archergal)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2006, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-9-one-giant-leap/375856/81 "2006-10-10T19:00:17Z")
[QUOTE=DocCathode] Mysterious brown guy (I thought the glyph was a crest on the knot in his tie)- Is his power not thinking? He could be Presidential material. [/QUOTE] Just got through rewatching the episode on [nbc.com](http://nbc.com) (Great Og, I love broadband!). I’m pretty sure it was a necklace, since he was wearing a collarless shirt. Of course, I hadn’t even noticed the glyph at all before y’all mentioned it. :smack: Color me oblivious. ---
**Author:** ![Achren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/898d66/32.png) [@Achren](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Achren)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2006, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-9-one-giant-leap/375856/82 "2006-10-10T19:04:17Z")
[QUOTE=kurilla] Hm. I still feel like the “Holy --!” should’ve come WHILE she was looking at her chest, not after she looked away. Yes, it’s a technical detail; yes, I can be anal retentive. Although if the person she looked at offscreen was holding up an organ, then I agree fully with your agreement. (Assuming there was a person she saw; we don’t know that yet.) Further comments on that bit: I agree that having her autopsied (assuming that’s what it is) so soon and in these circumstances doesn’t make sense. So, therefore, whoever cut her open knows or at least has an idea of what she is. The only person we know for sure who fits that description at the moment is EvilDad. I may have to start keeping a scorecard… [/QUOTE] I saw it as, she looks down, then around at her surroundings and then it hits her as to what has/is happening. Kind of “What? Where…oh crap!” ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2006, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-9-one-giant-leap/375856/83 "2006-10-10T19:14:54Z")
[QUOTE=kurilla] So, therefore, whoever cut her open knows or at least has an idea of what she is. The only person we know for sure who fits that description at the moment is EvilDad. [/QUOTE] And he is deliciously evil, isn’t he? In episode two, didn’t he actually have a tear in his eye when he said, “yes, it _does_ break my heart,” after watching the tape of his daughter? And this week, he might well have been monitoring his daughter’s activities - almost certainly is; let her get date-raped, took her to a secret lab, and performed an autopsy on her. Ew! [QUOTE=middleman] And if someone could kill off the Murse character, the show would be so much better. [/QUOTE] Noooooooo! I like him! He’s so sappy & sympathetic. Poor guy. He just loves his big brother. Idol-worships him even. All he wants is his respect and he thought he’d finally earn it by having powers. Then his adorable but big ol’ meany brother goes & tells the news he’s got emotional problems and tried to commit suicide. :mad: ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Some\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ad7895/32.png) [@Just\_Some\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Some_Guy)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2006, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-9-one-giant-leap/375856/84 "2006-10-10T19:25:21Z")
I am convinced after last night’s episode that Hiro is doomed. His powers are essentially a deus ex machina (“Something bad happened? Let me just pop back in time five minutes and undo it! And if I fail, I’ll just keep trying!”) and he’s the only person who is even remotely enjoying his abilities. In a post-modern take on superheroes this equals dead character. The most powerful characters are taken out to demonstrate that god-like power doesn’t make them unstoppable and anyone with special abilities is supposed to be miserable and self-loathing. Look for Syler to telekinetically pop his head off like a champange cork with no warning at the end of an episode during a sweeps period. ---
**Author:** ![cbawlmer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/71e660/32.png) [@cbawlmer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cbawlmer)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2006, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-9-one-giant-leap/375856/85 "2006-10-10T19:32:40Z")
Hey, if they kill Hiro they’re going to kill their ratings. The only characters I care much about are Hiro and the psychic cop, whose name I don’t even know. I just know I like him. ---
**Author:** ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2006, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-9-one-giant-leap/375856/86 "2006-10-10T19:36:23Z")
[QUOTE=Shayna] Well, yeah, it does sound odd, considering that this show, basically, _is_ a comic book come to life. I’m really enjoying it! [/QUOTE] There is certain dialogue that I can accept in comic form, but hearing it come out of the mouth of a real life actor? It sounds so stilted. Plus, there is too MUCH dialogue. Good screenwriting tells a story without beinf so…TALKY! There is a problem with over-explaining in this series. Too many long monologues explaning what is going on around them. - Eden. I agree she is a plant. One other thing that bothered me. Just because you have a spare set of keys from the previous tenant does not mean you can open the door of the new tenant. - **levdrakon** - C’Mon. He doesn’t understand why his brother might be frustrated with him talking LOUDLY in his congressional campaign office about being able to fly? Dudes a nutjob! His scenes annoy me most of all. In order of enjoyment: Hiro (his dialogue is just as bad, but it is more acceptable because I read it and not hear it. Plus the guy makes me laugh.) Cop/Sylar Cheerleader Artist Ali Larter Professor Overexplainer Opening Credits Commercials DVR Fast Forward Screen The playdough sculpture my kid made Test of the emergency broadcast system Murse guy ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2006, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-9-one-giant-leap/375856/87 "2006-10-10T19:38:35Z")
[QUOTE=Just Some Guy] I am convinced after last night’s episode that Hiro is doomed. His powers are essentially a deus ex machina (“Something bad happened? Let me just pop back in time five minutes and undo it! And if I fail, I’ll just keep trying!”) [/QUOTE] Oh, have your never read a comic book? No matter how powerful you are, you can always be knocked unconscious, or be otherwise occupied, or be too exhausted, or have someone deactivate your powers. Whatever the writers need. ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2006, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-9-one-giant-leap/375856/88 "2006-10-10T19:43:58Z")
[QUOTE=cbawlmer] Hey, if they kill Hiro they’re going to kill their ratings. The only characters I care much about are Hiro and the psychic cop, whose name I don’t even know. I just know I like him. [/QUOTE] Telepa-cop is named [del]Sean[/del] [del]Weiss[/del] _Matt!_ ---
**Author:** ![Misnomer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misnomer/32/14897_2.png) [@Misnomer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Misnomer)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2006, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-9-one-giant-leap/375856/89 "2006-10-10T19:48:35Z")
“Telepa-cop” … heh! I have neglected to mention how happy I am to see Greg Grunberg again. 😃 (But it was _Eric_ Weiss. :)) ---
**Author:** ![Misnomer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misnomer/32/14897_2.png) [@Misnomer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Misnomer)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2006, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-9-one-giant-leap/375856/90 "2006-10-10T19:50:05Z")
[QUOTE=Misnomer] (But it was _Eric_ Weiss. :)) [/QUOTE] Crap, never mind, I somehow managed to forget about _Felicity_. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2006, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-9-one-giant-leap/375856/91 "2006-10-10T19:50:15Z")
I vote for boxing stuff that’s in the previews. I wish shows would stop doing previews altogether. I don’t need enticement to keep tuning in, and lately, it seems that previews give away too much. Or, as was the case with Deadwood, they’re totally misleading. Previews didn’t use to bother me but I recently realized I’d rather be surprised. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![jaderabbit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9fc29f/32.png) [@jaderabbit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jaderabbit)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2006, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-9-one-giant-leap/375856/92 "2006-10-10T19:59:26Z")
[QUOTE=levdrakon] No, you’re not being dense. We don’t know who took the branch out. Here’s the thing. A cheerleader is found dead with a branch in her neck. Without finding and notifying the parents, you take her to the coroner’s and perform an autopsy? Is that legal? It’s only been a few hours I assume. If they had notified dad I highly doubt he’d allow an autopsy to be performed. It’s almost as if whoever was performing the autopsy knew she’d stay dead until they removed the branch from her brain, so they left it there until they were finished. Then yank it out, leave the room and let Claire pull herself together, as it were. [/QUOTE] I don’t think you need to get familial consent for an autopsy if it appears a crime has been committed–just for malpractice and so forth. It might vary by state, though. Depending on how fast she healed from minor abrasions, whether she still had all her clothes on, etc., her body might show signs of attempted rape and thus make the cops think of murder as well. It does seem odd that they didn’t remove the branch before starting the rest of the autopsy. I watched it with a pathologist who commented that the autopsy appeared incomplete; her ribcage was still intact. He also said that the incision didn’t look standard (of course, this is TV we’re talking about). He was most interested in whether her organs had been removed or not. If her organs are in the buckets and she’s still alive, that’s pretty interesting. ---
**Author:** ![Gozu\_Tashoya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/7993a0/32.png) [@Gozu\_Tashoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gozu_Tashoya)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2006, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-9-one-giant-leap/375856/93 "2006-10-10T20:13:42Z")
I missed a bit of the first episode, but I get the impression that Mohindar’s been chased around a bit by EvilDad and Company, and that his father’s apartment was ransacked(?) and almost bugged. So what makes him think it’s a good idea to take up residence there? (Granted, if I had that particular neighbor, I’d probably be willing to live in a death trap too, but that’s largely beside the point.) ---
**Author:** ![jaderabbit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9fc29f/32.png) [@jaderabbit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jaderabbit)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2006, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-9-one-giant-leap/375856/94 "2006-10-10T20:18:28Z")
[QUOTE=HazelNutCoffee] When Claire was going off with that quarterback dude, who was the girl staring after them worriedly? I swear she looked just like Claire. [/QUOTE] I think her photo was on Syler’s map. Any Tivo’ers care to confirm or deny? ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2006, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-9-one-giant-leap/375856/95 "2006-10-10T20:18:32Z")
I vote for not having to spoiler box things the day after they’ve aired. Haven’t seen the show yet? Don’t read the freakin’ thread with the date right there in the thread title! However, spoilers from other websites, interviews, or other sources of not-broadcast-as-part-of-the-show should be spoilered on account of being, you know, spoilers, even for people who _have_ seen the episode. ---
**Author:** ![HazelNutCoffee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@HazelNutCoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HazelNutCoffee)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2006, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-9-one-giant-leap/375856/96 "2006-10-10T20:25:04Z")
[QUOTE=jaderabbit] I think her photo was on Syler’s map. Any Tivo’ers care to confirm or deny? [/QUOTE] Thank you for responding to this! Did no one else notice the girl who was watching Claire and the would-be rapist leave? Who is she? ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2006, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-9-one-giant-leap/375856/97 "2006-10-10T20:33:27Z")
[QUOTE=HazelNutCoffee] Thank you for responding to this! Did no one else notice the girl who was watching Claire and the would-be rapist leave? Who is she? [/QUOTE] Oh, I definitely noticed her. I was wrapped up in the show and didn’t think about it too much. It could be she was just the girlfriend who spots her boyfriend leaving with another girl. But you’re right, there could be much more to it. Maybe she’s connected to Evil Dad, and the look on her face was “good, everything’s going according to plan.” ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2006, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-9-one-giant-leap/375856/98 "2006-10-10T20:34:41Z")
[QUOTE=HazelNutCoffee] Thank you for responding to this! Did no one else notice the girl who was watching Claire and the would-be rapist leave? Who is she? [/QUOTE] Quarterback’s girlfriend? I don’t know. I can’t decide if she looked angry or worried. She’d be angry if she was his girlfriend, but worried if she was a prior victim of the guy. I wonder if the girl taking the credit for the fire rescue will be mistaken for Claire at some point. ---
**Author:** ![mazinger\_z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5f9b8f/32.png) [@mazinger\_z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mazinger_z)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2006, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-9-one-giant-leap/375856/99 "2006-10-10T20:35:10Z")
[QUOTE=HazelNutCoffee] Thank you for responding to this! Did no one else notice the girl who was watching Claire and the would-be rapist leave? Who is she? [/QUOTE] Didn’t they show this girl in, I think, the 1st ep? Well, now that I think about it, she was in the 2nd one as well. The only scene I vaguely remember her in was when Claire was looking longingly at QB, and the camera dude was walking with her. The QB dude looked at Claire and while the girl you mentioned was talking to QB dude. She gave the look of: “Get away from my man, you skank whore!” She was shown in passing in the 2nd ep, I believe, in one of the hallway scenes. Sorry for being less than exact, it’s time for my afternoon siesta. ---
**Author:** ![HazelNutCoffee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@HazelNutCoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HazelNutCoffee)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2006, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-9-one-giant-leap/375856/100 "2006-10-10T20:38:53Z")
You mean the girl that’s taking credit for Claire’s heroics? That wasn’t her, she was dressed differently. I don’t think QB has a girlfriend. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-9-one-giant-leap/375856.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-10-9-one-giant-leap/375856.md?page=6)