# Heroes 11/20 - "Homecoming"

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-11-20-homecoming/381234>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [November 21, 2006, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-11-20-homecoming/381234 "2006-11-21T02:05:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2006, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-11-20-homecoming/381234/181 "2006-11-24T15:23:21Z")

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[QUOTE=Ethilrist]

Chandra literally wrote (a) book on the human genome. It’s not unreasonable that he’d have access to a subset of the data; this would also explain why all his hits (except Hiro…) were in the U.S., and the kid in Chennai wasn’t on the list.

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I’m not quite sure what you mean.

In order for him to search some sort of database, a large chunk of the population would have to have their entire mapped genetic structure on file, right? I mean, there’s nothing even remotely like that in the real world, is there?

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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2006, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-11-20-homecoming/381234/182 "2006-11-24T15:30:17Z")

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Having identified which parts of the genome grant powers, Chandra may have figured out how to identify super traits by recognizing other defining characteristics–they’re all left-handed diabetics with a predisposition to early male pattern baldness, or something like that. He wouldn’t necessarily have to have a DNA sample from each of the people he identified, and not having those samples would help to explain why he had identified so _few_ of the supers, since they’re all around us.

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**Author:** ![Lissa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lissa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lissa)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2006, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-11-20-homecoming/381234/183 "2006-11-24T15:57:56Z")

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[QUOTE=GuanoLad]  
How do they know where any of the Supered are? They clearly have a detector of some kind, probably supernatural, that helps when a superpowered person is nearby.  
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It makes me think that this was some kind of experiment, that something was done intentionally to trigger the DNA change in select individuals,. It was done at birth,and the ones who were part of the experiment were tatooed (maybe with some kind of special ink which would only become active when their powers did). Their kids also have the powers because the genes were passed on, but they don’t have the tatoos. (Haven’t noticed one on Claire or Micha.)

Papa Suresh found out about the experiment but not where the individuals were located. Through his investigations, he located a fair number of them and spent his life trying to figure out what the experiment changed about their chemistry.

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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2006, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-11-20-homecoming/381234/184 "2006-11-24T16:05:22Z")

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The interaction between Ted and Matt makes me think the tattoos are new. The fact that Jessica has one (while Niki does not…) says to me that they develop over time as people use their powers. Ted & Matt are newbie supers, so they just have a couple little lines. Other people have the whole insignia.

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**Author:** ![HazelNutCoffee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@HazelNutCoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HazelNutCoffee)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2006, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-11-20-homecoming/381234/185 "2006-11-24T16:17:57Z")

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[QUOTE=Ethilrist]  
The interaction between Ted and Matt makes me think the tattoos are new. The fact that Jessica has one (while Niki does not…) says to me that they develop over time as people use their powers. Ted & Matt are newbie supers, so they just have a couple little lines. Other people have the whole insignia.  
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Ted and Matt have scars, not tattoos, left over from the experiments Bennett did on them.

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**Author:** ![BobT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e8cbc/32.png) [@BobT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobT)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2006, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-11-20-homecoming/381234/186 "2006-11-24T18:41:18Z")

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[QUOTE=Ethilrist]  
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I’m thinking that the current Shrine of Charlie in the diner isn’t a memorial–she’s left on her round-the-world tour or something that’s taken her out of Texas, and they put up a bunch of pictures of her so they don’t forget about her.  
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I don’t believe in the last episode, the cops were still in the diner. If they knew that Hiro was supposed to be around for questioning and Ando was still there, wouldn’t they be bothering him to find his friend, or, more likely, thinking that he’s a suspect who’s fled the scene of the crime.

Instead, Ando is just sitting around drinking coffee and talking to Peter.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2006, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-11-20-homecoming/381234/187 "2006-11-26T00:08:21Z")

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Random thought:

Do you know how many stories would come to a halt if people made their password “rain25door” instead of their birthday/anniversary/loved ones name/etc.?

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2006, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-11-20-homecoming/381234/188 "2006-11-26T00:16:22Z")

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[QUOTE=SenorBeef]  
Random thought:

Do you know how many stories would come to a halt if people made their password “rain25door” instead of their birthday/anniversary/loved ones name/etc.?  
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Damn. Now I have to change my password.

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**Author:** ![Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19adc/32.png) [@Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2006, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-11-20-homecoming/381234/189 "2006-11-26T02:33:33Z")

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[QUOTE=SenorBeef]  
I mean, there’s nothing even remotely like that in the real world, is there?  
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No. The human genome project is _one_ person’s DNA and it cost billions of dollars IIRC. The X-prize people are currently offering a million dollars to any group that can completely sequence the DNA of 100 people in a week, which still has to bring the test down to the thousand-dollar range to be worthwhile – and they estimate that’s 5 to 7 years away.

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**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2006, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-11-20-homecoming/381234/190 "2006-11-26T04:00:36Z")

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BTW, what was that electronic doodad that Claire was texting **A** mbiguously **G** ay **D** ude on?

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**Author:** ![Priam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/77aa72/32.png) [@Priam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Priam)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2006, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-11-20-homecoming/381234/191 "2006-11-26T05:39:52Z")

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[QUOTE=Oslo Ostragoth]  
BTW, what was that electronic doodad that Claire was texting **A** mbiguously **G** ay **D** ude on?  
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That’s a Sidekick, I believe.

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**Author:** ![Annie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/858c86/32.png) [@Annie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2006, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-11-20-homecoming/381234/192 "2006-11-27T02:07:29Z")

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Based on this auction item, [Milo’s a sick little Hero](http://nbcauction.auction.seenon.com/viewitem.php?item=503&SESSID=ad50e9714fd4da93d432c87bdfefc65f)

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**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2006, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-11-20-homecoming/381234/193 "2006-11-27T04:53:26Z")

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[QUOTE=Annie]  
Based on this auction item, [Milo’s a sick little Hero](http://nbcauction.auction.seenon.com/viewitem.php?item=503&SESSID=ad50e9714fd4da93d432c87bdfefc65f)  
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Ah, so Milo _did_ do his own work on the painting Peter finished for Issac.

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**Author:** ![gonzoron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a6a055/32.png) [@gonzoron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzoron)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2006, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-11-20-homecoming/381234/194 "2006-11-27T18:19:59Z")

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It seemed to me like Eden has some resistance to using her power at all. All that stuff like “don’t make me do this” and such… That’s why I think she didn’t use them on Mr. Bennett.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2006, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-11-20-homecoming/381234/195 "2006-11-27T18:54:44Z")

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[QUOTE=gonzoron]  
It seemed to me like Eden has some resistance to using her power at all. All that stuff like “don’t make me do this” and such… That’s why I think she didn’t use them on Mr. Bennett.  
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I didn’t get that impression. I thought she just didn’t want to use it for the purpose of getting Isaac to shoot up.

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**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2006, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-11-20-homecoming/381234/196 "2006-11-27T19:34:46Z")

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[QUOTE=Annie]  
Based on this auction item, [Milo’s a sick little Hero](http://nbcauction.auction.seenon.com/viewitem.php?item=503&SESSID=ad50e9714fd4da93d432c87bdfefc65f)  
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Heh… when Peter was teasing his brother by saying “let’s go flying”, all I could think was that’s like the dumbest thing for someone who mimics powers to do, especially if you don’t know how long your power mimicry lasts.

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2006, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-11-20-homecoming/381234/197 "2006-11-27T20:07:22Z")

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[QUOTE=Lightnin’]  
Heh… when Peter was teasing his brother by saying “let’s go flying”, all I could think was that’s like the dumbest thing for someone who mimics powers to do, especially if you don’t know how long your power mimicry lasts.  
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They’d have to hold hands just to be sure, which would be cute.

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**Author:** ![borschevsky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/97f17d/32.png) [@borschevsky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/borschevsky)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2006, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-11-20-homecoming/381234/198 "2006-11-27T20:13:32Z")

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Sure, and they could take the Telepathic Cop for a ride and reenact the “read my mind” scene from _Superman_.

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**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2006, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-11-20-homecoming/381234/199 "2006-11-27T20:44:58Z")

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[QUOTE=borschevsky]  
Sure, and they could take the Telepathic Cop for a ride and reenact the “read my mind” scene from _Superman_.  
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Only if they make Telepa-Cop wear Margot Kidder’s same outfit.

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**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2006, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-11-20-homecoming/381234/200 "2006-11-28T00:16:55Z")

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Just three thoughts before moving to the latest episode’s thread…

1.) How could they misspell Grants Pass, OR?

2.) Based on how protective Mr. Bennet is being with Claire, saving her saved the world from an unfortunate episode stemming from his attepts at retribution on Sylar.

3.) Hi Opal!

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