# Heroes 12/03/07 - "Powerless" (SPOILERS) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [December 3, 2007, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-12-03-07-powerless-spoilers/428710 "2007-12-03T21:51:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![FlyingCowOfDoom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/flyingcowofdoom/32/21776_2.png) [@FlyingCowOfDoom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlyingCowOfDoom)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2007, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-12-03-07-powerless-spoilers/428710/161 "2007-12-05T17:59:32Z")
[QUOTE=bouv] I was expecting Peter to leave Adam several thousand (million?) years in the past, but stuck in a coffin is pretty harsh, too. [/QUOTE] Yeah, I thought this too, but then I realized that Adam would just show up again in the present, several thousand/million years more pissed off. I got the impression that Mama Petrelli could have been the shooter… And Revtim and The Controvert, you guys are just plain disgusting 😛 –FCOD ---
**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2007, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-12-03-07-powerless-spoilers/428710/162 "2007-12-05T20:41:18Z")
[QUOTE=Skammer] I haven’t read this whole thread yet, because I just saw the episode last night, but has anyone asked this: If Claire’s blood healed Noah’s eye(s), why does he still need glasses? [/QUOTE] I actually brought that up in [last episode’s](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=9216698&postcount=66) Heroes thread. > [@](#): > > I’m getting confused. Wasn’t Parkman Sr. in cahoots with Adam? Wasn’t it in fact Parkman Sr. doing his magic illusionary attack that causes MomP to injure herself fighting the invisible attacker? I speculated during the episode that showed her attack that she was [faking](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=9079616&postcount=100) it or was in on it. There was a little smirk she gave right after she talked to Parkman after her attack that made me think it was misdirection. Of course, I could be reading more into it than the writers are… ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2007, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-12-03-07-powerless-spoilers/428710/163 "2007-12-05T21:06:40Z")
[QUOTE=Morbo] I actually brought that up in [last episode’s](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=9216698&postcount=66) Heroes thread. [/QUOTE] And I [tried to answer it](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=9216873&postcount=69) a few posts later 😛 My explanation wasn’t phrased very well though. The short answer is that Noah’s lens shape may be a result of genetics that result in less than perfect eyes, but from the perspective of his body they aren’t damaged, they’re following his genetics. So the blood restored his eyes to what his genetics would dictate they would be, rather than some objective ideal. Similarly if someone were born only with 4 toes because of their genetics, and got the end of their foot chopped off, I wouldn’t expect it to grow back with 5. ---
**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2007, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-12-03-07-powerless-spoilers/428710/164 "2007-12-05T21:21:46Z")
[QUOTE=SenorBeef] And I [tried to answer it](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=9216873&postcount=69) a few posts later 😛 [/QUOTE] I thought your explanation was fine; he wondered if it was brought up before so I obliged. I’m OK with that even if it’s an oversight. More so than I am with Peter’s disappearing Kensei symbol. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![amarinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@amarinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarinth)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2007, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-12-03-07-powerless-spoilers/428710/165 "2007-12-06T23:31:10Z")
[Post from the Seattle PI TV critic’s blog](http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/tv/archives/127170.asp) where she compares “Powerless” with R. Kelly’s “Trapped in the Closet.” ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2007, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-12-03-07-powerless-spoilers/428710/166 "2007-12-07T00:11:04Z")
[QUOTE=amarinth] [Post from the Seattle PI TV critic’s blog](http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/tv/archives/127170.asp) where she compares “Powerless” with R. Kelly’s “Trapped in the Closet.” [/QUOTE] Didn’t read the whole thing, but the part about Nightmare Man was one of my big peeves too. He was supposed to be really scary. I was scared at the end of season one. What he ended up being was a huge disappointment. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2007, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-12-03-07-powerless-spoilers/428710/167 "2007-12-07T04:52:54Z")
[QUOTE=Baldwin] Well, that’s just the thing. When the show started, I actually had hopes that they’d stick to the basic premise (not an original one, of course, but a good one) of a story about how people with superpowers would interact with the real world. Imagine if the show had used rigorous, real-world logic instead of idiot plots and coincidences that Dickens would have passed on. Actually, just picture the same show, but _well-written_. Ahhh.\ [/QUOTE] I think it would be a lot like “The 4400” then. 😃 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-12-03-07-powerless-spoilers/428710.md?page=8)