# Heroes 12/4: "Fallout" **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [December 4, 2006, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-12-4-fallout/382882 "2006-12-04T23:17:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2006, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-12-4-fallout/382882/1 "2006-12-04T23:17:58Z")
Alternate title - “Suck on this until January, bitches!” Last week, we learned more about our [del]Five Little Peppers[/del] Eight Little Heroes and How They Grew (and wicked bonus points to anyone who recognizes the reference) while Hiro learned that he would do anything for love but he can’t do that. Tonight the threads pick back up from two weeks ago, with Peter under arrest for the possible murder of the possibly dead Jackie, Sylar in the hands of Mr Bennet and a bullet whizzing toward DL’s head. We are promised that a hero will “be lost” (which may not mean “die”) and that in a show known for surprise ending we ain’t seen nothin’ yet. ---
**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2006, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-12-4-fallout/382882/2 "2006-12-04T23:36:29Z")
[QUOTE=Otto] We are promised that a hero will “be lost” . [/QUOTE] One of the goes to “[The Island](http://www.hanttula.com/projects/lost/)” ? It’s all becoming clear now… well maybe not so much. ---
**Author:** ![HazelNutCoffee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@HazelNutCoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HazelNutCoffee)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2006, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-12-4-fallout/382882/3 "2006-12-04T23:43:19Z")
[QUOTE=Otto] Alternate title - “Suck on this until January, bitches!” Last week, we learned more about our [del]Five Little Peppers[/del] Eight Little Heroes and How They Grew [/QUOTE] Ben - can chop wood like a mofo Polly - charms rich boys into sending her canaries Phronsie - knows how to turn crusty old men into emo saps Joel - has the power needed to beat up rich brats Davie - resistance to measles Argh. What will I do on Monday evenings for the next month? ---
**Author:** ![sturmhauke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47c2d/32.png) [@sturmhauke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sturmhauke)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2006, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-12-4-fallout/382882/4 "2006-12-04T23:57:49Z")
Did they say “lost”? In that case, it might be Hiro, getting lost in spacetime, as it were. He’d be back at some point obviously. ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2006, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-12-4-fallout/382882/5 "2006-12-05T00:20:48Z")
Oh, and as for nicknames…use them, don’t use them, makes me no never mind, I ain’t getting mixed up in that mess again this week. Refer to the OP from last week’s thread if you find a nickname confusing. ---
**Author:** ![jacob\_wrestling](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/76d3ee/32.png) [@jacob\_wrestling](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jacob_wrestling)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2006, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-12-4-fallout/382882/6 "2006-12-05T00:24:05Z")
[QUOTE=HazelNutCoffee] Polly - charms rich boys into sending her canaries Phronsie - knows how to turn crusty old men into emo saps [/QUOTE] Best book ever. My older sister and I used to play 5 Little Peppers all the time. She was Polly, and I was Phronsie. Gah, I miss being a kid. Here’s hoping it’s Niki/Jessica that’s “lost” for good. PleasedieNikidieNikiboringboringhate **diediedie**! I saw a thing on E! that said a main character was leaving the show because of a contract dispute - apparently, one of our Heroes wanted too much money. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2006, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-12-4-fallout/382882/7 "2006-12-05T00:55:43Z")
[QUOTE=astro] One of the goes to “[The Island](http://www.hanttula.com/projects/lost/)” ? It’s all becoming clear now… well maybe not so much. [/QUOTE] Well, in January it moves to Wed at 8PM (according to my paper), so it’s a nice “Lost” lead-in. Seems like the “fall finale” procedure is catching on with lots of shows now. I only watched 1 1/2 episodes of this show, but I’m kinda liking it. I’ll watch tonight and then pick it up again in Jan. I just hope they’re not going where I think they might be going with the whole “next stage of human evolution” thing. Still, looks like a fun show. ---
**Author:** ![Nefarious\_Chipmunk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nefarious_chipmunk/32/1045_2.png) [@Nefarious\_Chipmunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nefarious_Chipmunk)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2006, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-12-4-fallout/382882/8 "2006-12-05T01:11:59Z")
I wonder if the hero that is lost is Jessica. Maybe Niki finally conquers her and takes over her power, and Jessica “disappears.” ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2006, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-12-4-fallout/382882/9 "2006-12-05T01:19:52Z")
[QUOTE=John Mace] Well, in January it moves to Wed at 8PM (according to my paper), so it’s a nice “Lost” lead-in. [/QUOTE] Yeah, it’s a nice “Lost” lead-in if you’re home on Wednesdays and can watch shows on different networks, which I’m not and I can’t, so why the hell must they fuck with my schedule? Not that I’m gonna weep a copious number of bitter tears if I _have_ to choose one over the other (“Lost” loses; not even a contest). I blame 24. ---
**Author:** ![HazelNutCoffee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@HazelNutCoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HazelNutCoffee)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2006, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-12-4-fallout/382882/10 "2006-12-05T01:43:51Z")
[QUOTE=heraldgwena] I wonder if the hero that is lost is Jessica. Maybe Niki finally conquers her and takes over her power, and Jessica “disappears.” [/QUOTE] Well, if what **jacob wrestling** posted is correct, they’re going to get rid of an actor altogether. That would mean it can’t be Jessica, unless she and Niki both die together. (Not that I’d mind.) ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2006, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-12-4-fallout/382882/11 "2006-12-05T01:44:01Z")
Are they pitting _Heroes_ against _Lost_, or _Heroes_ comes on before _Lost_? _Lost_ loses if it’s a Sophies choice, hands down. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2006, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-12-4-fallout/382882/12 "2006-12-05T01:46:43Z")
[QUOTE=levdrakon] Are they pitting _Heroes_ against _Lost_, or _Heroes_ comes on before _Lost_? _Lost_ loses if it’s a Sophies choice, hands down. [/QUOTE] Before. \*Lost \*is at 9. But I thought eveyone had a DVR by now, so it really shouldn’t matter. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2006, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-12-4-fallout/382882/13 "2006-12-05T01:55:43Z")
[QUOTE=John Mace] Before. \*Lost \*is at 9. But I thought eveyone had a DVR by now, so it really shouldn’t matter. [/QUOTE] I won’t get a DVR because I have no interest in sending off marketing information to the people who sell them. Give me one that isn’t also a snitch and I’ll gladly use it. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2006, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-12-4-fallout/382882/14 "2006-12-05T02:04:08Z")
[QUOTE=Otto] I won’t get a DVR because I have no interest in sending off marketing information to the people who sell them. Give me one that isn’t also a snitch and I’ll gladly use it. [/QUOTE] How do you get your TV? We have Dishnetwork satellite TV and we told them when they installed it we have no house phone service and as far as I know, the DVR’s in the house have no way of phoning home without that. ---
**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2006, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-12-4-fallout/382882/15 "2006-12-05T02:18:38Z")
OMG, I just loved the telepathic ‘feedback screech’ between officer troi and Peter petrelli mimicking his telepathy. That’s an idea I’ve used in some of my stories, that two telepaths trying to read each other at the same time could get locked into a feedback loop, like a microphone picking up its own monitor. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2006, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-12-4-fallout/382882/16 "2006-12-05T02:20:57Z")
Micahs Dad So his arm can be BOTH tangible and intangible? …How can you phase into the door, and then still “touch” the lock? Mind-reading Cop, and and Petrelli Cop: I’m going to read your mind now. Petrelli: No dice stranger. Cop: No, I have this abillity. Peterelli: Yeah, and Ive got it too! And yet, the cop could get it to work long enough to get the “truth” out ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2006, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-12-4-fallout/382882/17 "2006-12-05T02:24:14Z")
Hiro and Ando are busting out the Computer Geek Power!! ---
**Author:** ![Only\_Mostly\_Dead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/f19dbf/32.png) [@Only\_Mostly\_Dead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Only_Mostly_Dead)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2006, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-12-4-fallout/382882/18 "2006-12-05T02:28:08Z")
Damn, so excited that ProbablyNotEvilDad might be showing some of the same super mojo as the Haitian. But, alas, the Hatian was just lurking in the area. I want ProbablyNotEvilDad to be more than just a ringleader. So far, no luck. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2006, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-12-4-fallout/382882/19 "2006-12-05T02:28:22Z")
By that, I meant the “If Then” statement statements. * * * “We are doing everything in our POWER to protect them”. heh heh. ooh ooh Dopple skanker(s) are on. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2006, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-12-4-fallout/382882/20 "2006-12-05T02:29:43Z")
[QUOTE=Only Mostly Dead] Damn, so excited that ProbablyNotEvilDad might be showing some of the same super mojo as the Haitian. But, alas, the Hatian was just lurking in the area. I want ProbablyNotEvilDad to be more than just a ringleader. So far, no luck. [/QUOTE] Ah but We have learned that the Hatian (probably) is a mute. Seems as if every ‘hero’ has a drawback someplace else. The ‘drive’ needed to evolve [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-12-4-fallout/382882.md?page=2)