# Heroes 3.14 "A Clear and Present Danger" **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 3, 2009, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-3-14-a-clear-and-present-danger/484193 "2009-02-03T01:40:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Annie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/858c86/32.png) [@Annie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2009, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-3-14-a-clear-and-present-danger/484193/1 "2009-02-03T01:40:26Z")
Last time on **Heroes,** a lot of buildings blew up. And our gang of mutants are still looking for a way to use their abilities [without completely screwing up.](http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=frFf909PWwg) Now, \*finally, \* law enforcement has developed an interest in these ordinary weirdos. Have at 'er kids. ---
**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2009, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-3-14-a-clear-and-present-danger/484193/2 "2009-02-03T01:54:04Z")
Well, crap. I’d completely forgotten this was on again. Thanks for starting the thread, **Annie**! … No give-backs! 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2009, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-3-14-a-clear-and-present-danger/484193/3 "2009-02-03T01:58:55Z")
I was about to create this thread. We few, we gluttons for punishment, let’s meet here to discuss what’s wrong with Heroes. ---
**Author:** ![Rattlehead02](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rattlehead02/32/3944_2.png) [@Rattlehead02](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rattlehead02)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2009, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-3-14-a-clear-and-present-danger/484193/4 "2009-02-03T02:02:38Z")
Nitpick It’s actually 3.14 /Nitpick ---
**Author:** ![Annie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/858c86/32.png) [@Annie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2009, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-3-14-a-clear-and-present-danger/484193/5 "2009-02-03T02:05:02Z")
That’s what I get for trusting TwoP! ---
**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2009, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-3-14-a-clear-and-present-danger/484193/6 "2009-02-03T03:04:21Z")
Ah, the unjoys of being the thread starter. heh. Anyway: seem like Peter’s powers may have gone all radiation accident on him? (i.e., changed). I thought this was a better start than last season’s, even. Although I did find myself hoping that it was Maya who got sucked out of the plane, all strapped-in and still hooded… ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2009, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-3-14-a-clear-and-present-danger/484193/7 "2009-02-03T03:10:22Z")
Why the hell was Peter even bothering holding on at the end? He can fly, he told Nathan himself. Hell he should have been out there trying to save whoever got sucked out. ---
**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2009, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-3-14-a-clear-and-present-danger/484193/8 "2009-02-03T03:12:08Z")
Ah, see, that’s why I think Peter’s powers have changed – once he got… damn, forgot her name already… Not!Niki’s freeze-power, it seemed like he didn’t have Mohinder’s superstrength anymore. If so, no flying, either. ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2009, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-3-14-a-clear-and-present-danger/484193/9 "2009-02-03T03:15:22Z")
Peter needs to learn to stop hugging family members. Except Claire, but from what I hear the actors do plenty of that off set, if ya know what I mean, wink, wink, nudge, nudge. So how many people were hoping Nikki/Tracey/Whosit would get sucked out of the plane? I could have sworn the previews showed a blonde woman getting sucked out of the plane, I thought it would either be Claire or her. I wonder how long Claire would take to heal if she went splat from 30,000 feet? ---
**Author:** ![Annie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/858c86/32.png) [@Annie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2009, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-3-14-a-clear-and-present-danger/484193/10 "2009-02-03T03:44:14Z")
> [@Lightray](#): > > Ah, see, that’s why I think Peter’s powers have changed – once he got… damn, forgot her name already… Not!Niki’s freeze-power, it seemed like he didn’t have Mohinder’s superstrength anymore. > > If so, no flying, either. Now, that would be interesting he’s the PVR that only holds 1 show at a time. He’s be great in a fight as long as it was a tag team match- Strength slap! Frost hand-grab! Invisi-shit, where’s the invisible guy!😃 ---
**Author:** ![LawMonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d6d6ee/32.png) [@LawMonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LawMonkey)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2009, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-3-14-a-clear-and-present-danger/484193/11 "2009-02-03T03:49:35Z")
> [@Wile\_E](#): > > So how many people were hoping Nikki/Tracey/Whosit would get sucked out of the plane? I could have sworn the previews showed a blonde woman getting sucked out of the plane, I thought it would either be Claire or her. I wonder how long Claire would take to heal if she went splat from 30,000 feet? For about two seconds I thought Claire’s plan was to jump into the jet intake. She’d have had to re-form from tiny Claire-bits like a frozen and shattered T-1000… ---
**Author:** ![Waffle\_Decider](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/77aa72/32.png) [@Waffle\_Decider](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waffle_Decider)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2009, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-3-14-a-clear-and-present-danger/484193/12 "2009-02-03T03:51:10Z")
I just want to say the plane is cool. It looks like it has 2 prop engines plus 2 jet engines. Does that exist in reality? ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2009, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-3-14-a-clear-and-present-danger/484193/13 "2009-02-03T05:10:22Z")
Eeeesh. This show. I’m in it until the bitter end, and I’m hoping the quality greatly improves once Bryan Fuller’s influence comes on board (ep 3.19). But I just don’t care about any of these people any more. The cataract-future-writing ability that everybody seems to get is so played out in this series. And now we’re gonna have a “chosen one” who will be the new prophet du jour. Old, tired, played, and trite. They need to get back to a bigger scope, but with a tight focus, like the first season. No more end-of-the-world shit though. Make me connect with these characters again. Bring in some complicated and intriguing plot again. And for all that is holy, give Hiro his powers back. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Controvert](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dec6dc/32.png) [@The\_Controvert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Controvert)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2009, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-3-14-a-clear-and-present-danger/484193/14 "2009-02-03T05:46:16Z")
> [@LawMonkey](#): > > For about two seconds I thought Claire’s plan was to jump into the jet intake. She’d have had to re-form from tiny Claire-bits like a frozen and shattered T-1000… If she did that, would the garish make-up reform on her face? Or might she go from Dee Snyder back to fresh faced teen? ---
**Author:** ![audit1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ed8c4c/32.png) [@audit1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/audit1)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2009, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-3-14-a-clear-and-present-danger/484193/15 "2009-02-03T05:51:48Z")
> [@Waffle\_Decider](#): > > I just want to say the plane is cool. It looks like it has 2 prop engines plus 2 jet engines. Does that exist in reality? Yes, the aircraft if a C-123 Provider, originally just the 2 props, the jets were added to provide extra speed. no longer in service with the USAF, some are in civilian hands and do a lot of movie work. However Claire , you can not get from the wheel well to the inside of the plane. ---
**Author:** ![Annie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/858c86/32.png) [@Annie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2009, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-3-14-a-clear-and-present-danger/484193/16 "2009-02-03T05:53:04Z")
TV News guy: So, Senator Petrelli, how is it a guy appointed to the senate six weeks ago gets so many top secret meetings with President Worf? Senator Rasputin: I introduced him to my mother. She has a way with people. Tracey: Governor Sheridan, are all these ninjas your idea? You kinky sonofa- hey, darts? Not cool! Angela: Claire, here, pick a prestigious school we can buy your way into. And go wash a layer of that makeup off; I’m the only one here who gets to use a whole tube of lipstick at a time. Claire: Sylar’s still alive Angela: Dead! Dental remains!!! Claire: Hey, I had a branch stuck in my head and was in my house during an exploding nuclear accident and you know what? _I got better too_! He isn’t dead until- hell, ever. It’s an evil thing Hiro: I bought us the Ghostbuster HQ, Ando- Ando: Why am I still hanging out with you? I could be in New York with Nemesis travelling back in time and working out that incredible sexual tension of mutual contempt thing with her. I could be getting laid! Hiro: Costume! Ando: You are dead to me. Hiro: Kawasaki! Ando: OK, I’m your bitch Matt: Hi honey, did you cheat at work today? Nemesis: You bitch when I steal for a living, now you bitch when I deliver lawyer papers really fast? Why am I even here with you? Matt: Fate! We’re destined to get married, have a baby and have you die horribly. That African dude over there told me. Nemesis: What-evah. I should go look up Ando. Usutu: Quit talking to the damn turtle, you have to paint the future-I brought some of that peyote mud you love so much. Peter: Still cute and noble! Taxi! Mohinder: Peter? Peter: Do you ever get this crazy deja-vu feeling? Mohinder: Yes, I’m fully expecting that when you leave this cab a scary man with a gun will get in and make cryptic threatening statements, and I’ll run away like a big girl. Scary gun man: So, you’re psychic? Mohinder: No, I drive a cab in Manhattan. That happens twice a shift. SGM: Into the van, buddy Mohinder: No! I unleash my defensive weaponized door mastery! Take that! SGM: Dude, ninja gun guys Mohinder: OK, big girl running away HRG: Get in if you want to live Mohinder: Oooooh, I know I’ll regret this! HRG: No shit Sherlock, the last time I saw you, you shot me in the eye. Look, ninjas! Sylar: Oh yeah, I’m so not dead they don’t even have to explain why I’m not dead. Daddy, you in here? Oooh, toys! Daddy Gray: Hands off my shit buster. Sylar: How many heads must a man rip open, before you can call him a man? Are you my daddy? DaddyUncle Gray: Naw, my brother sold you to me and I thought hey, I’ll dump the bitch and leave this helpless baby boy as an emotional surrogate for her missing husband. What could possibly go wrong? Sylar: I accidentally stabbed her and painted the apocalypse with her blood Uncle Gray: Well, these things happen. Do you need anything? How are you for money? Hiro: Ando, where are you? Ando: All these bar girls need saving, really Hiro: oof, ugh, THUD Ando: Yeah, make me work for the bike. Some friend you are Claire: I overhear my father and grandmother talking about a plot to incarcerate a race of people, she catches me, and she lets me walk out of the house? I have to send her the link to the Evil Overlord List, that is just sloppy. Matt- evil plot, you’re in danger. Matt: look, I drew a picture of us. And look, another picture of you and me in front of a window with a bullet hole in it. _What does it mean???_ Claire: They didn’t let you keep your NYPD detective badge? I’m shocked. SGM: Now you are _Bzzzzzzzzztttttttttt_ Matt: Now would have been a good time for your window jumping trick, Claire Peter: Nathan, why do you hate us so? Nathan: Really? I’m not sure. So, are you going to interfere with my dastardly plans? Peter: You know I am Nathan: Yeah, I knew you are. Come give your fa-brother a hug Peter: Sure, that’s never backfired on me. _And he does it! So we know Peter’s got his abilities back, his IQ’s back to Phoenix room temperature_ Nathan: See- I didn’t stab you in the back. HRG: That’s my job _Outside the workshop of Samson Gray, Taxidermist_ Sylar: Hey, I may debrain people but at least I don’t decorate with the corpses. Dad, you in here? Ninjas: Just us with the tranq guns Sylar:Cool, I usually don’t get to work a room full! Where’s my daddy? Ninja-who’s-damn-lucky-to-still-be-breathing: _Can they ever be superpowered and sane? Just once, can they send us to bag someone who doesn’t have daddy issues?_ _At the Air Daddy Issues Terminal:_ Nathan: OK, did you put everyone on that chocolate milk drip that neutralizes abilities? SGM: Yes. So, just how did you know that worked? Nathan: Oop, lucky guess, I absolutely can’t fly you know. SGM: We found this little blonde one for you. No harm in handing over a heavily drugged nubile teen to some guy in his 40’s I suppose. Nathan: Nope, nothing sketchy about that. Pour her into my car and take her back to my place. SGM: Sure, and while you’re doing that I’ll put all these powered people in the same cargo hold. No chance some invulnerable person will be able to get loose and raise hell. We have chocolate milk! Claire, Peter, Tracey: We are impervious to your chocolate milk! Mohinder: And look- all these doors! May as well leave me an arsenal of microscopes Peter: Hope those redshirts who just got sucked out of the plane had some 30,000 foot fall recovery ability Random Fed guy: Nope. You just killed 3 Marines and some guy who had the ability to learn languages really fast, asshole. Clarie: Damn. All my dads are assholes. _Next week: the gang huddles up at the picnic tables, the producers buy some stabilizers for the jiggy-cams._ ---
**Author:** ![Encinitas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@Encinitas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Encinitas)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2009, 7:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-3-14-a-clear-and-present-danger/484193/17 "2009-02-03T07:02:43Z")
Next week on **Heros** … **LOST**! ---
**Author:** ![Snifit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5fc32e/32.png) [@Snifit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snifit)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2009, 9:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-3-14-a-clear-and-present-danger/484193/18 "2009-02-03T09:22:36Z")
Fantastic summary, **Annie**! I think you’ve just convinced me to keep watching the show. ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2009, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-3-14-a-clear-and-present-danger/484193/19 "2009-02-03T14:47:27Z")
> [@Encinitas](#): > > Next week on **Heros** … **LOST**! That was my same thought when they showed the plane crash. One other comment. It’s nice to have pretty not-so-evil Mohinder again. He’s so pretty. ---
**Author:** ![Tupug\_Anachi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@Tupug\_Anachi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tupug_Anachi)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2009, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-3-14-a-clear-and-present-danger/484193/20 "2009-02-03T14:58:28Z")
> [@Encinitas](#): > > Next week on **Heros** … **LOST**! 'Zactly what I was thinkin. :mad: **Annie** , keep em comin! 😃 [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-3-14-a-clear-and-present-danger/484193.md?page=2)