# Heroes 3/5: "Parasite" (SPOILERS) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 5, 2007, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-3-5-parasite-spoilers/394745 "2007-03-05T23:22:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2007, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-3-5-parasite-spoilers/394745/101 "2007-03-06T19:44:16Z")
[QUOTE=enigm4tic] my conjecture is that he doesn’t know that he’s teleported to the future yet. As far as he knows, he’s in the same time frame\ [/QUOTE] I thought I heard Hiro say something that indicated he knew he was in the future after New York had blown up real good as soon as he realized where he was (“Oh no! I wasn’t able to stop it!” or something like that.) Good episode. What a fun show! The hour seems to go by in a flash. Was there some meaning in the way Sylar pressed his head onto the gun Mohinder was holding on him at first? He was taunting him to shoot him, it looked like. Was it simply that he thought Mohinder didn’t have the stones to actually do it (which, it turns out, he did), or is it just a symptom of Sylar being crazy as a shithouse rat? ---
**Author:** ![Cuckoorex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ad7895/32.png) [@Cuckoorex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cuckoorex)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2007, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-3-5-parasite-spoilers/394745/102 "2007-03-06T19:45:46Z")
I _like_ the bitchy new illusionist! A character I can love to hate is welcome. Besides, she has hot legs… ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2007, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-3-5-parasite-spoilers/394745/103 "2007-03-06T20:39:10Z")
Just rewatched the Hiro scene in NY… the crane with the beam appears controlled, and you can clearly see a couple of vehicles on the street below (if you watch closely enough) ---
**Author:** ![Cuckoorex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ad7895/32.png) [@Cuckoorex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cuckoorex)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2007, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-3-5-parasite-spoilers/394745/104 "2007-03-06T20:50:06Z")
I just rewatched the scene where I thought Eric Roberts mentions the Haitian’s name, and he he actually says “Prague and Parkman” which for some reason sounded to me like some exotic name when I watched it the first time. Oh well. I noticed that in the preview for the upcoming episodes there were some scenes from previous episodes like Peter flying with Claude on his back to escape Bennet and the Haitian on the rooftop, and there’s a quick flash of what looks like Sylar flying toward Peter feet-first, but it appears to actually be running in reverse…possibly to throw off the viewers to what’s happening, but could it also be Peter bending time and space a la Hiro? ---
**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2007, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-3-5-parasite-spoilers/394745/105 "2007-03-06T21:06:32Z")
[QUOTE=simster] Just rewatched the Hiro scene in NY… the crane with the beam appears controlled, and you can clearly see a couple of vehicles on the street below (if you watch closely enough) [/QUOTE] OK then. I thought the crane was just swinging in the breeze, and I was too busy watching the bird to notice the cars. Was anyone else expecting Sylar to melt the gun in Mohinder’s hands after he stopped the bullet? That would’ve been a nice touch. ---
**Author:** ![NailBunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ecae2f/32.png) [@NailBunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NailBunny)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2007, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-3-5-parasite-spoilers/394745/106 "2007-03-06T21:10:44Z")
Ooh, it just occurred to me that now Peter’s going to have Melty and Hearing as well! I can’t wait to see them battle it out. That’s going to be badass. ---
**Author:** ![enigm4tic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@enigm4tic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enigm4tic)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2007, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-3-5-parasite-spoilers/394745/107 "2007-03-06T21:27:09Z")
not necessarily, it’s possible Peter can only use powers that he has literally been exposed to, such as the telekinesis, and not suddenly assume powers he has never seen (because otherwise how would he know that he was able to do that) ---
**Author:** ![Cuckoorex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ad7895/32.png) [@Cuckoorex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cuckoorex)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2007, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-3-5-parasite-spoilers/394745/108 "2007-03-06T21:29:49Z")
[QUOTE=enigm4tic] not necessarily, it’s possible Peter can only use powers that he has literally been exposed to, such as the telekinesis, and not suddenly assume powers he has never seen (because otherwise how would he know that he was able to do that) [/QUOTE] I thought for sure he got Claire’s healing ability without being in close proximity to her while it was working. ---
**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2007, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-3-5-parasite-spoilers/394745/109 "2007-03-06T21:42:09Z")
And he got Claude’s invisibility without even knowing that Claude existed. ---
**Author:** ![bouv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bc8723/32.png) [@bouv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bouv)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2007, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-3-5-parasite-spoilers/394745/110 "2007-03-06T21:49:05Z")
[QUOTE=enigm4tic] not necessarily, it’s possible Peter can only use powers that he has literally been exposed to, such as the telekinesis, and not suddenly assume powers he has never seen (because otherwise how would he know that he was able to do that) [/QUOTE] He went invisible without ever knowing that Claude was. He doesn’t have to know that he’s being exposed to a power to be able to use it later, since AFAIK, he also didn’t know Claire (and therefore, by extension, he) would heal. So, in theory, after now being with Sylar, peter should be able to: Fly Heal Read minds Erase memories (I \*think[/] he was in close proximity to the Haitian, but I might be wrong.) Paint the future Bend space and time Invisibility Telekinesis Super hearing Melting power Freezing power Super memory (we haven’t seen Sylar use that! He saw the list at one point, in theory, he should never have to see it again. Though, granted, so Mohinder says he can make a new and better list.) Anything I’m missing? ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2007, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-3-5-parasite-spoilers/394745/111 "2007-03-06T22:00:50Z")
[QUOTE=enigm4tic] not necessarily, it’s possible Peter can only use powers that he has literally been exposed to, such as the telekinesis, and not suddenly assume powers he has never seen (because otherwise how would he know that he was able to do that) [/QUOTE] In possible combination with his dream ability, he came to the conclusion he could fly before he was aware of anyone having superpowers so it seems given enough time, he figures out his powers without having to see someone use them first. ---
**Author:** ![Cuckoorex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ad7895/32.png) [@Cuckoorex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cuckoorex)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2007, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-3-5-parasite-spoilers/394745/112 "2007-03-06T22:02:22Z")
[QUOTE=bouv] He went invisible without ever knowing that Claude was. He doesn’t have to know that he’s being exposed to a power to be able to use it later, since AFAIK, he also didn’t know Claire (and therefore, by extension, he) would heal. So, in theory, after now being with Sylar, peter should be able to: Fly Heal Read minds Erase memories (I \*think[/] he was in close proximity to the Haitian, but I might be wrong.) Paint the future Bend space and time Invisibility Telekinesis Super hearing Melting power Freezing power Super memory (we haven’t seen Sylar use that! He saw the list at one point, in theory, he should never have to see it again. Though, granted, so Mohinder says he can make a new and better list.) Anything I’m missing? [/QUOTE] Was he ever near Eden? (the woman, not the mythical garden) ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@Captain\_Carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Carrot)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2007, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-3-5-parasite-spoilers/394745/113 "2007-03-06T22:11:16Z")
When did we see a freezing power? ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2007, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-3-5-parasite-spoilers/394745/114 "2007-03-06T22:16:17Z")
[QUOTE=bouv] He went invisible without ever knowing that Claude was. He doesn’t have to know that he’s being exposed to a power to be able to use it later, since AFAIK, he also didn’t know Claire (and therefore, by extension, he) would heal. So, in theory, after now being with Sylar, peter should be able to: [/QUOTE] It could be an aspect of the TK, but Sylar can move really fast, jump really high and apparently bullets don’t penetrate him. He can also shrug off large doses of drugs, and pretend to be dead. Is that all TK? I dunno. [QUOTE=Captain Carrot] When did we see a freezing power? [/QUOTE] At the beginning of the series we saw a crime scene where one of the victims was frozen solid and these were supposed to be victims of Sylar. ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2007, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-3-5-parasite-spoilers/394745/115 "2007-03-06T22:31:56Z")
[QUOTE=bouv] He went invisible without ever knowing that Claude was. He doesn’t have to know that he’s being exposed to a power to be able to use it later, since AFAIK, he also didn’t know Claire (and therefore, by extension, he) would heal. So, in theory, after now being with Sylar, peter should be able to: Fly Heal Read minds Erase memories (I \*think[/] he was in close proximity to the Haitian, but I might be wrong.) Paint the future Bend space and time Invisibility Telekinesis Super hearing Melting power Freezing power Super memory (we haven’t seen Sylar use that! He saw the list at one point, in theory, he should never have to see it again. Though, granted, so Mohinder says he can make a new and better list.) Anything I’m missing? [/QUOTE] You forgot being able to open people’s heads and eat their brains. ---
**Author:** ![Cuckoorex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ad7895/32.png) [@Cuckoorex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cuckoorex)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2007, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-3-5-parasite-spoilers/394745/116 "2007-03-06T22:32:32Z")
And figure out how anything works by examining it. ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2007, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-3-5-parasite-spoilers/394745/117 "2007-03-06T22:44:35Z")
[QUOTE=Cuckoorex] And figure out how anything works by examining it. [/QUOTE] Yeah. Nothing makes sense with Sylar – either eating brains or examining them to get their powers. Maybe he just **thinks** he has to kill people. Could he be like Peter? ---
**Author:** ![Cuckoorex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ad7895/32.png) [@Cuckoorex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cuckoorex)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2007, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-3-5-parasite-spoilers/394745/118 "2007-03-06T23:00:01Z")
Oh! And we forgot that he can go nuclear like Ted! ---
**Author:** ![enigm4tic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@enigm4tic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enigm4tic)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2007, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-3-5-parasite-spoilers/394745/119 "2007-03-06T23:09:03Z")
> [@](#): > > Oh! And we forgot that he can go nuclear like Ted! no he can’t, he never met Ted. Hrm, so, the thing is, presumably to do all of Sylar’s abilities he channels Sylar (“remember how they made me feel”) and he gets all the Sylar associated powers? I’m of the opinion that Sylar does have to at least observe the brain more directly to understand the power, being able to figure it out visually, perhaps. > [@](#): > > Sylar can move really fast, jump really high and apparently bullets don’t penetrate him. He can also shrug off large doses of drugs, and pretend to be dead. I’m inclined to believe a lot of these are seperate abilities, the TK might have been responsible, for, say stopping his heart temporarily, although he might have figured out how, say, that cockroach went dormant or resisted high doses of poison (note that he can figure things out and alter his DNA to match, nobody ever said it has to be some other super that the “new” DNA is matching). I wonder if Sylar was the one Claude was referencing when Peter asked him, and who he was responsible for “hiding”. ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2007, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-3-5-parasite-spoilers/394745/120 "2007-03-06T23:16:15Z")
[QUOTE=enigm4tic] no he can’t, he never met Ted. Hrm, so, the thing is, presumably to do all of Sylar’s abilities he channels Sylar (“remember how they made me feel”) and he gets all the Sylar associated powers? I’m of the opinion that Sylar does have to at least observe the brain more directly to understand the power, being able to figure it out visually, perhaps. I’m inclined to believe a lot of these are seperate abilities, the TK might have been responsible, for, say stopping his heart temporarily, although he might have figured out how, say, that cockroach went dormant or resisted high doses of poison (note that he can figure things out and alter his DNA to match, nobody ever said it has to be some other super that the “new” DNA is matching). I wonder if Sylar was the one Claude was referencing when Peter asked him, and who he was responsible for “hiding”. [/QUOTE] I think it’s unlikely since from what we’ve been shown about Sylar he only became aware of his abilities recently when visited by Papa Suresh. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-3-5-parasite-spoilers/394745.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-3-5-parasite-spoilers/394745.md?page=7)