# Heroes 5/7/07 - "The Hard Part" **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 7, 2007, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-5-7-07-the-hard-part/403160 "2007-05-07T22:08:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-5-7-07-the-hard-part/403160/121 "2007-05-10T17:05:48Z")
[QUOTE=Sam Stone] I think she had the ability to be super-annoying. [/QUOTE] You nailed it. 3 seconds into first meeting her I thought so that’s why Sylar is nutty. I would be too. ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-5-7-07-the-hard-part/403160/122 "2007-05-10T17:39:02Z")
[QUOTE=Lightray] Well, there were no signs of daddy (Rick Moranis) around… [/QUOTE] If either parent had a power it would have been daddy. I got the feeling that daddy wasn’t around for some reason other than death. Maybe someone remembers the conversation better but I think she seemed more angry about the dad when Sylar mentioned him, than sad. The way she reacted to Sylar when he demonstrated his powers (“you’re a devil!”) makes me think daddy might have had a bit of the devil, too. ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-5-7-07-the-hard-part/403160/123 "2007-05-10T17:57:15Z")
[QUOTE=Wile E] If either parent had a power it would have been daddy. I got the feeling that daddy wasn’t around for some reason other than death. Maybe someone remembers the conversation better but I think she seemed more angry about the dad when Sylar mentioned him, than sad. The way she reacted to Sylar when he demonstrated his powers (“you’re a devil!”) makes me think daddy might have had a bit of the devil, too. [/QUOTE] I like your thinking. Also I’m wondering why his mom wanted him to be someone “special” like an investment banker or president and why she was opposed to him just being a regular joe fixing time pieces. ---
**Author:** ![enigm4tic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@enigm4tic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enigm4tic)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-5-7-07-the-hard-part/403160/124 "2007-05-10T20:37:55Z")
[QUOTE=Tahssa] I like your thinking. Also I’m wondering why his mom wanted him to be someone “special” like an investment banker or president and why she was opposed to him just being a regular joe fixing time pieces. [/QUOTE] well obviously her fixation on him being “special” it was drove him batty in the first place, that’s why he wanted her to tell him to be normal, so he wouldn’t be so driven to slaughter everybody to be more special. Then again, why would his mother have THAT much power over him anyways :dubious: whatever, that seems to be the reason for Sylar’s wackiness as presented. ---
**Author:** ![CaerieD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/da6949/32.png) [@CaerieD](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaerieD)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-5-7-07-the-hard-part/403160/125 "2007-05-10T21:06:41Z")
My current top Crazy Theory is that it’s going to turn out that Linderman is Sylar’s father and he’s been pulling all of these machinations to make his son the president. Okay, it doesn’t actually make any _sense_, but it amuses me. ---
**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-5-7-07-the-hard-part/403160/126 "2007-05-10T21:07:19Z")
Wait… I thought Sylar’s backstory was that he’d learned fixing watches from his father, wasn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![CaerieD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/da6949/32.png) [@CaerieD](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaerieD)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-5-7-07-the-hard-part/403160/127 "2007-05-10T21:22:37Z")
**Lightray** - correct, which is why it’s my favorite Crazy Theory and not my favorite “oh, that actually explains something” theory. It’s right up there with Hiro having traveled back in time and was the original Takezo Kensei and the ancestor of all the heroes…including himself. 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2007, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-5-7-07-the-hard-part/403160/128 "2007-05-11T01:34:47Z")
[QUOTE=Lightray] Wait… I thought Sylar’s backstory was that he’d learned fixing watches from his father, wasn’t it? [/QUOTE] So Audrey had a fling with Linderman back when she was a Vegas showgirl and he was a superhero, then she broke it off and settled down with a nice boring watchmaker. But knowing that his real father was wealthy, powerful and superhuman, she fills his head with all the “you’re special” talk which he doesn’t believe. It could fit but it’s pretty complicated. ---
**Author:** ![WilhelmGefallen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/9f8e36/32.png) [@WilhelmGefallen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WilhelmGefallen)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2007, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-5-7-07-the-hard-part/403160/129 "2007-05-11T03:19:02Z")
[QUOTE=CaerieD] It’s right up there with Hiro having traveled back in time and was the original Takezo Kensei and the ancestor of all the heroes…including himself. 😕 [/QUOTE] You might be onto something with that, in the picture of Takezo on the About Page on the [http://yamagatofellowship.org/index.shtml](http://yamagatofellowship.org/index.shtml) site he has a Soul Patch, and looks a lot like Future Hiro… (added the word site) ---
**Author:** ![Archergal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c89c15/32.png) [@Archergal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Archergal)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2007, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-5-7-07-the-hard-part/403160/130 "2007-05-11T13:59:07Z")
[QUOTE=WilhelmGefallen] You might be onto something with that, in the picture of Takezo on the About Page on the [http://yamagatofellowship.org/index.shtml](http://yamagatofellowship.org/index.shtml) site he has a Soul Patch, and looks a lot like Future Hiro… [/QUOTE] I saw there was a video and clicked on that. The damn thing’s in Japanese! I was pissed. They’re sucking us in… ---
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2007, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-5-7-07-the-hard-part/403160/131 "2007-05-11T17:16:20Z")
[QUOTE=featherlou] I make my vote for no spoilers for preview info. It’s been broadcast on the public airwaves, for heaven’s sake. It’s not like we’re hunting up double-secret obscure information here. If your personal preference is to not watch previews, well, tough. They’re always misleading and silly, anyway. Better they be dis-regarded than spoiler-boxed. Plus, they’re re-broadcast about a hundred times during the week in commercials. [/QUOTE] The question to me is… is it more of a bother for people-who-watch-previews to have to put things in spoiler boxes, or for people-who-don’t-watch-previews to be innocently reading a thread and then suddenly WHAM find out things they don’t want to know. I come down strongly in the former camp, but then, I don’t watch previews. ---
**Author:** ![WilhelmGefallen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/9f8e36/32.png) [@WilhelmGefallen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WilhelmGefallen)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2007, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-5-7-07-the-hard-part/403160/132 "2007-05-11T21:00:18Z")
[QUOTE=Archergal] I saw there was a video and clicked on that. The damn thing’s in Japanese! I was pissed. They’re sucking us in… [/QUOTE] It took me a couple of seconds to realise it, but the translation for that video is on the main page. ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2007, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-5-7-07-the-hard-part/403160/133 "2007-05-11T22:59:51Z")
[QUOTE=MaxTheVool] The question to me is… is it more of a bother for people-who-watch-previews to have to put things in spoiler boxes, or for people-who-don’t-watch-previews to be innocently reading a thread and then suddenly WHAM find out things they don’t want to know. I come down strongly in the former camp, but then, I don’t watch previews. [/QUOTE] I don’t mind spoiler boxing previews, however, sometimes the previews and the show run together in my mind so I can’t guarantee I won’t ever make a mistake. I don’t mind doing it as long as I won’t have someone try to rip me a new one if I forget. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-5-7-07-the-hard-part/403160.md?page=6)