# Heroes Episode (26 Feb 2007) - SPOILERS

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**Created:** [February 25, 2007, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-episode-26-feb-2007-spoilers/393633 "2007-02-25T19:48:23Z")\
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**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2007, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-episode-26-feb-2007-spoilers/393633/101 "2007-02-27T20:18:19Z")

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[QUOTE=crazyjoe]  
Also, if you follow the comics, you would know that Hana used to work for HRG, so he would have recognized her pretty easily.  
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There are no comics. There is nothing but the tv show. If I have to go elsewhere for information I stop watching.

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**Author:** ![NailBunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ecae2f/32.png) [@NailBunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NailBunny)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2007, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-episode-26-feb-2007-spoilers/393633/102 "2007-02-27T21:07:11Z")

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Regarding next week’s preview:

Oh my god, I’d completely forgotten about Simone! That’ll teach me to have a couple too many sips of Irish whiskey before Heroes. 🙂

So after my post last week bemoaning the fact that, according to IMDB, it didn’t look like Christopher Eccleston was going to be in any more episodes, last night I jumped for joy and then yelled at the TV: “IMDB **lied** to me!!!”

Spectacular episode. Burnt!Claire was awesome.

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**Author:** ![bouv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bc8723/32.png) [@bouv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bouv)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2007, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-episode-26-feb-2007-spoilers/393633/103 "2007-02-27T21:13:26Z")

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[QUOTE=NailBunny]

Spectacular episode. Burnt!Claire was awesome.  
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Did anyone else think she looked a lot like that old, anti-smoking ad that showed what appeared to be a burnt up woman? I tried to find a picture of it online, but couldn’t, but you know what I’m talking about, right?

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**Author:** ![enigm4tic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@enigm4tic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enigm4tic)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2007, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-episode-26-feb-2007-spoilers/393633/104 "2007-02-27T21:19:28Z")

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haha yeah she did look a lot like that. Interesting to see what parts of the plot get tied up next week since the preview (no spoilers just an obs) seemed to have a little bit of a lot of plotlines.

Re the confusion over the schedule of the remaining episodes, does anybody have the actual air-date schedule or a link to it?

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**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2007, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-episode-26-feb-2007-spoilers/393633/105 "2007-02-27T21:19:29Z")

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Oh, and I had a dream last night where I could pull memories out of people’s heads like worms.

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**Author:** ![HazelNutCoffee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@HazelNutCoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HazelNutCoffee)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2007, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-episode-26-feb-2007-spoilers/393633/106 "2007-02-27T21:30:40Z")

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[QUOTE=Morbo]  
I have a theory about that, but since it involves something from next week’s preview, I’ll spoiler it.

The super Claude had found and was protecting was Simone; he never did tell Bennet who it was, and it sure looked from the previews like she had a super power like Claire’s. Maybe she can also heal - she could’ve healed Claude and then started working as a nurse in the same building where Claude lurks on the roof, watching over her.

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Re your theory regarding Simone (don’t read unless you want to know for sure, because the spoiler bellow is not speculation and is taken from [spoilerfix.com](http://spoilerfix.com)):

[spoilerfix.com](http://spoilerfix.com) says that Simone and Mohinder will not be revealed to have powers, and that Simone will definitely die on the March 5 ep.

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**Author:** ![akira5822](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/53a042/32.png) [@akira5822](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/akira5822)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2007, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-episode-26-feb-2007-spoilers/393633/107 "2007-02-27T21:37:49Z")

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[QUOTE=dropzone]  
I looked at the [Primatech Paper](http://www.primatechpaper.com/career_form.shtml) website, especially the pre-employment quiz, and one question left me confused: “2. If you see a turtle lying upside-down on its shell in the middle of the road, you: Run over it/Take it to safety/Avoid it.”

What’s a turtle?  
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So, Dropzone tell me a little more about your mother…

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**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2007, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-episode-26-feb-2007-spoilers/393633/108 "2007-02-27T21:38:13Z")

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[QUOTE=HazelNutCoffee]  
Re your theory regarding Simone (don’t read unless you want to know for sure, because the spoiler bellow is not speculation and is taken from [spoilerfix.com](http://spoilerfix.com)):

[spoilerfix.com](http://spoilerfix.com) says that Simone and Mohinder will not be revealed to have powers, and that Simone will definitely die on the March 5 ep.

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Great - another preview that isn’t what it claims - what, did she stand up full of bullet holes, say something pithy, then collapse, or was it her ghost that was standing there, or what? Bah. I think I’m going to stop watching the previews.

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2007, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-episode-26-feb-2007-spoilers/393633/109 "2007-02-27T21:45:22Z")

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[QUOTE=Morbo]

Great - another preview that isn’t what it claims - what, did she stand up full of bullet holes, say something pithy, then collapse, or was it her ghost that was standing there, or what? Bah. I think I’m going to stop watching the previews.

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I’m guessing dream sequence of some sort, traditional spoiler trash.

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**Author:** ![crazyjoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f14d63/32.png) [@crazyjoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crazyjoe)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2007, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-episode-26-feb-2007-spoilers/393633/110 "2007-02-27T21:56:12Z")

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[QUOTE=Exapno Mapcase]  
There are no comics. There is nothing but the tv show. If I have to go elsewhere for information I stop watching.  
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OK, I understand this line of thinking, and I can respect it. Especially when they take things to the extent they dod with LOST. But, the answer remains that it was not Hana, and you’d probably find that out next week anyhow.

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**Author:** ![Sir\_Prize](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d2c977/32.png) [@Sir\_Prize](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_Prize)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2007, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-episode-26-feb-2007-spoilers/393633/111 "2007-02-27T22:05:03Z")

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Simone and Claude:

[spoiler]Simone has to die because otherwise she expose the whole situation.

Alternative scenario: The same shapeshifter (who can survive bullet wounds) that was shot by HRG on the bridge (while Claude invisibly pressed the trigger) was sent by Claude to impersonate Simone.[/spoiler]

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**Author:** ![Saltire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saltire/32/553_2.png) [@Saltire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saltire)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2007, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-episode-26-feb-2007-spoilers/393633/112 "2007-02-27T23:04:11Z")

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Is it possible that Hiro is adopted, much the same as Claire? He could have had powered parents who may now be dead due to Company activities. When Mr. Nakamura spoke of not getting too attached, perhaps he was speaking somewhat from experience.

I can’t wait to find out about the new woman at Primatech. I know some people don’t like an overabundance of characters, but I love when we get new supers.

From the preview, I’m guessing she’ll replace the Haitian as Bennet’s partner.

Speculating on the end of last ep–Peter can disappear, but Isaac will be stuck with a gun and a dead woman in his studio. He’ll have to be arrested, and Bennet will have to get him out of it somehow. So Primatech will hide him and will get the benefit of his abilities, not Peter and Hiro.

I’m sure hoping that Claire, Peter and Nathan meet up soon, possibly with the Haitian. Hiro should be able to deal with his Linderman/sword mission in the next ep, and then he can go to NYC to meed up with the burgeoning Pettrelli supergroup. Maybe DL, Micah and Jessica/Niki will be brought in on the nuke-prevention storyline. I’d like to see more of the heroes working together.

On that subject, Matt was just really, really cool in this episode. I loved how the thoughts he heard were edited in. And it was pretty neat how Dad and Daughter both thought of getting Claire shot to save Mom at the same time. “You do exactly what I think.”

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2007, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-episode-26-feb-2007-spoilers/393633/113 "2007-02-27T23:22:58Z")

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[QUOTE=Saltire]  
On that subject, Matt was just really, really cool in this episode. I loved how the thoughts he heard were edited in. And it was pretty neat how Dad and Daughter both thought of getting Claire shot to save Mom at the same time. “You do exactly what I think.”  
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I thought Bennet’s thinking in Japanese was very cool. Usually in comics telepaths can read anyone’s thoughts, regardless of language. Not being able to understand Japanese thoughts was a nice detail about how it might work in the “real” world.

Since Matt can only hear what you say to yourself, a good way to block him would be to simply start chanting “la la la” to yourself.

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2007, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-episode-26-feb-2007-spoilers/393633/114 "2007-02-27T23:41:00Z")

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Best episode of the series so far.

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**Author:** ![carterba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/85e7bf/32.png) [@carterba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carterba)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2007, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-episode-26-feb-2007-spoilers/393633/115 "2007-02-27T23:59:12Z")

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Hana was a pretty blatant _deus ex machina_ inserted into the story to get Ted and Matt to the Bennet house. The writers tried to cover up their _machina_tions by giving her a backstory in the comics, but I somehow doubt we’re going to see her again this season. That was definitely not her at the end.

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**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2007, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-episode-26-feb-2007-spoilers/393633/116 "2007-02-28T00:13:24Z")

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[QUOTE=levdrakon]  
Since Matt can only hear what you say to yourself, a good way to block him would be to simply start chanting “la la la” to yourself.  
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I’ve thought, right from the beginning, that Matt got the short end of the evolutionary stick. I mean, sure, he’s a telepath… but he can’t send his thoughts to anyone else, he can only “hear” thoughts that you’re actively thinking, and now we find out that if you think in another language, he can’t understand you. Oh, and he gets headaches.

The Haitian, on the other hand- that guy pretty much has to be an incredibly strong telepath, otherwise, how would he know what thoughts need to be erased?

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**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2007, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-episode-26-feb-2007-spoilers/393633/117 "2007-02-28T00:14:13Z")

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[QUOTE=akira5822]  
So, Dropzone tell me a little more about your mother…  
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OK, time to let me in on the joke.

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2007, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-episode-26-feb-2007-spoilers/393633/118 "2007-02-28T00:38:17Z")

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[QUOTE=Oslo Ostragoth]  
OK, time to let me in on the joke.  
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:eek: You missed a Bladerunner reference? Shame! 😛

It’s from the beginning of the movie: There are some escaped Replicants (basically genetically engineered humans) on earth. One of them applies for a job at the Tyrell corporation - which is the corporation which makes replicants. As part of the application process they have a Bladerunner give you a “Void-comp” test, which is basically a polygraph but it measures you’re emotional responses, to see if you have the same responses a human would have. The Bladerunner gives the guy a serious of questions to see how he reacts. He asks, “you see a turtle on its back, what do you do?” “What’s a turtle?” “You know what a tortoise is?” “Sure” “Same thing.” The gig is pretty much already up. The Bladerunner asks, “tell me about your mother.” “My mother, I’ll tell you about my mother,” then blows the guy away with a gun he had under the table.

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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2007, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-episode-26-feb-2007-spoilers/393633/119 "2007-02-28T00:47:15Z")

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Despoilering, because the context is removed…

[QUOTE=levdrakon]  
“Void-comp” test  
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Nitpick: Voight-Kampff.

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**Author:** ![Fiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e274bd/32.png) [@Fiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiver)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2007, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroes-episode-26-feb-2007-spoilers/393633/120 "2007-02-28T00:48:15Z")

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[QUOTE=Lightnin’]  
I’ve thought, right from the beginning, that Matt got the short end of the evolutionary stick. I mean, sure, he’s a telepath… but he can’t send his thoughts to anyone else, he can only “hear” thoughts that you’re actively thinking, and now we find out that if you think in another language, he can’t understand you. Oh, and he gets headaches.  
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But maybe Matt’s only on the lower slope of the learning curve, and can improve with training, like Peter.

I’d bet a dollar that Simone is entirely, thoroughly dead, and that’s one of Peter’s dream sequences in the preview.

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