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Had my first Kael’Thas exploiter in a game today. I told him he’s an asshole for cheating, and that even if we win, it’s tainted because he cheated to get there. He kept talking about how I was “a white knight” and a mormon. He even tried the “it’s not cheating, it’s in the game” even though they hotfixed it to remove KT from HL and are patching it out ASAP. Delusional.

Even though he cheated, he was still awful, racking up 9 deaths in 14 minutes and getting outdamaged by every other player in the game. And we got crushed.

I honestly don’t think you can cheat at video games and be a good person. If you’re so emotionally immature that you get gratification from cheating, as though you were actually successful, you’re developmentally retarded. And if you’re doing it just to ruin everyone else’s time, you’re just an asshole.

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They’re fixing the bug today, which is good.

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Today’s patch is buffing the secondary heroics of a lot of under/unused heroic tier abilities. Funnily, I’m one of those scrubs who almost always picks Falling Sword for Johanna so I am quite stoked about the massive damage boost. After the last buff that increased the “targeting reticle” speed to the same as the regular movement rate, I think this makes it much better than most folks give it credit for.

On the whole I don’t think we’ll see much overall change in pick percentages except perhaps for Stage Dive, which already sees play against team comps with heavy CC.

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Playing another Lost Vikings game. On battlefield of eternity, so already a bad map for TLV. The first 2 immortals we lost by about 15% hp. I said “I’ll lane during immortal fights, everyone go”, but our azmodan wouldn’t leave his lane to go fight the immortal, which is why we narrowly lost twice. He wasn’t even pushing a base or anything, just normal laning as if he was unaware of what was going on.

I said “azmo, during the immortal fight go help the team, I can lane, you need to help the objective”

And he says “Oh I don’t help with the objective? fine” and then during the immortal phase for the rest of the game, he would hearth back to the fountain and sit there.

I’m not making it up - I’ll send people the replays if they think I’m lying. I can be toxic when people are being fucking deliberate idiots, so I’m not trying to cover for myself, but I really was just normal/constructive/explanatory and he fucking took such great offense that he decided to tank the game.

I think this may be the end of me playing QM except when I have to. I was worried TLV would get teammates mad if I picked them in HL, but fuck them, I’m actually a really good TLV.

In fact, if you count the two games where we were ahead when a teammate deliberately went AFK both times as wins, I’m 9-1 in my first 10 games with them.

I had two of my longest games today. By the HOTSlog counter (which I think counts pregame time which the game clock doesn’t), I had a match of 35:08, and then 3 games later, 35:35. The latter game was 2 seconds shorter than my all time longest game.

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So what was the Kael’Thas exploit?

And I can sort of see where that Azmodan player was coming from: Az is a very good laner, and so ordinarily it would be a reasonable use of his time to lane for XP while the rest of the team went after the objective. But just because I can see where he’s coming from, doesn’t mean I agree with where he ended up: Vikings are better at that job, and regardless, just hanging out in the Hall is certainly not the right course of action.

And for what it’s worth, All Shall Burn works quite nicely at burning down an immortal. And you can do that and still toss an occasional fireball into the nearest lane, or send a trooper or lieutenant down.

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Living bomb could be spammed with no cooldown or mana cost.

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Okay, I guess I should stop having hope that anyone with a higher rank and in HL is any less retarded than the QM scrubs. Played my first HL game with vikings today. Map is cursed hollow.

They pick Falstead.
We get second two picks: TLV, Jaina
They pick Muradin, Lunara
We pick… Abathur, Zagara. Our last guy is showing sylvanas all match. I ask if the last guy can heal.
They pick Sylvanas, Kharazim.

Oh, whew, at least our guy won’t entertain the notion of picking Sylvanas because they took her, and he can heal now.

He instant picks Gazlowe.

On a team with lost vikings, abathur, zagara, jaina, no healer and no tank, with more than its share of specialist heroes, he picked Gazlowe.

And within 8 minutes, Mr. Gazlowe is apparently unhappy with the amount of success his team is having in teamfights, so he then proceeds to AFK for the next 5 minutes before finally being picked.

And we weren’t even scrub tier. I was playing with someone with a higher MMR than me, so we were all mid-20s rank.

So my hope of climbing out of my pit to get to games where at least people had two brain cells to rub together is apparently doomed.

Oh, and in chat, they blamed me, first (second) pick vikings. Not 4th pick Abathur or last pick Gazlowe. Even though I was the only reason we were in the game at all.

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I have literally very had nearly as bad experiences that you’ve had.

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We should try out team league.

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BOE is actually pretty good for TLV. Just have the team drag out the immortal and soak like wooooooo

But you were already doing that.
That Azmodan sounds pretty toxic. I would report for non-participation.

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Woo boy. Senor, if this is you HOTS Logs - Heroes of the Storm Stats, Builds, & More

I feel sorry for you. Enjoy your stay in MMR hell, hopefully you get out soon.

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Yeah, it sounds brutal. Like I’ve said, and I’m not saying this just to be nice, but I’ve played with him and he really isn’t that bad. He deserves to be higher than he is.

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Yeah, the tip off is the winstreak just giving single (!!) or low double digit MMR.

Also, Mr. AFK Azmodan was actually level 16 (!!!)

Like, yeesh.

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Yeah, that’s me. Could you be more specific in terms of what about my profile is pitiable?

High praise! I’m usually pretty bad with new heroes (you saw me just fuck it up with Morales over the weekend) but I’m good with most of the heroes I play regularly. I somehow seem to be a magnet for getting the guy on my team that’s so bad that he single handedly sinks the team by going 1v5 at critical moments or doing other fuckups.

I’ve been slowly digging my way out. I was at the bottom not too long ago - 950 in QM and rank 40 in HL. Got up to 1250 and 33. But it’s a slow grind out.

I can only hope that when they release the season (kinda ridiculous that we’re in preseason) that it gives everyone a true reset, and doesn’t just continue to place you based on what your previous MMR says.

Rand has two accounts - on one, he’s 1600 MMR, then he got a fresh start and his new one is 2500 MMR. I mean, if the same guy can have a 1600 MMR and be stuck there, and then create a new account and have a 2500 MMR… clearly your system is broken.

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Yeah, there have been cases where people make new accounts and shoot to rank 1 in 30 games or something ridiculous.

It seems like MMR is getting too confident too quickly, which means that people that have been playing for a while (especially new players perform badly initially but who have improved quickly) get stuck with TERRIBLE MMR. And since the system is confident in your MMR it doesn’t move you unless you play many many games. Hopefully they do a reset soon.

Yours seems like a pretty clear case of MMR hell. Those teammates, yeesh.

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Yeah, it’s worse with HL. Old account MMR: 1500. New account MMR: 3000. That doesn’t make much sense. I agree that MMR settles way too quickly. A lot of people are hit hard by learning the game early on but then the game thinks they’re still at their level a year later.

I do feel like I’m where I should be in QM. Rounds have been fairly balanced for me, with a lot of back and forth. When we lose it’s because we messed up somewhere.

I feel out of depth with my new HL. I’ve been winning, but it’s possible I’ve been carried (although I main support). Matches feel frantic and I’m mentally drained after.

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Dustin Browder’s teasing the impending end of the HL preseason, but I’ll believe it when I see it.

I don’t know if they ever plan on resetting QM MMR.

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Playing infernal shrines. We’re behind in the hero kill count 5-15. But we’re up 1 level because of vikings awesomeness. Game is tied at 28-28 in core health.

Rehgar sits AFK in the corner. I say “rehgar is afk, report” and he says “no rehgar is sitting out, you guys are pathetic, 5-15”

We play 3 minutes and get behind until he’s finally kicked. When the bot replaces him, we start doing well again. He comes back 5 minutes later and then proceeds to AFK again. We lost the game when the enemy had a core health of 3. Super close game.

Gee, do you think the 8 minutes of the game that one of our players, and our only healer, voluntarily sat out because we were so bad and the game just couldn’t be won might’ve made a difference?

I now have 18 games as vikings. I have 6 losses. 3 of those losses, fully half of them, would’ve otherwise been wins if not for deliberate AFK by teammates. I would be 15-3 if not for complete shitbags. This is absurd.

Edit: Oh, in that same game, we were at the 13 minute mark. Rexxar says “Hammer, are you trolling?” - Hammer has 60k siege damage and 30k hero damage at this point. Rexxar has 9k siege damage and 8k hero damage. For perspective, the enemy lili has 22k siege damage and 11k hero damage. I said “uh Rexxar, considering lili has more than twice your damage I don’t think hammer is the problem” and he says “lol I’m a tank”

So yes, even with a deliberate AFKer, and a terrible rexxar, I almost carried that team to a win, losing only by 3-0. And I lose matchmaking rating. It’s like I’m the victim of some weird social experiment to see how much I’ll take before quiting the game.

And yeah, I said I wasn’t going to keep playing QM. I don’t plan to. I’ve just really wanted to play vikings, and I would only pick them in hero league in the right map/team composition/absense of enemy Li-ming, so I’ve been playing QM just to play them. But with 50% of my losses coming from QM shitbags deliberately losing the game, I may have to give that up.

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I did have a game the other night when the enemy got a couple of picks the first few minutes, so our Sonya said, “I’m not playing with scrubs” then proceeded to fuck around the the first three shrines, which we lost. Luckily for us, deaths for the first few minutes don’t really matter, soaking is more important. But despite being down our warrior we kept playing and doing pretty well.

Look who decided to start playing again once we started winning? We won the match but I still reported. Dick.

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I don’t even play Azmodan but I’m pretty sure I need Azmodunk