# Heroic tv show characters who have committed cold-blooded murder (spoilers inevitable) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 28, 2009, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroic-tv-show-characters-who-have-committed-cold-blooded-murder-spoilers-inevitable/511881 "2009-09-28T19:16:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2009, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroic-tv-show-characters-who-have-committed-cold-blooded-murder-spoilers-inevitable/511881/21 "2009-09-28T20:21:24Z")
> [@Skammer](#): > > If not, there’s probably another Jack Bauer moment out there that does… Blowing away Nina after she was arrested in season three definitely counts. Nina was Evil with a capital E, but she was cornered and only going back to jail. ---
**Author:** ![Grumman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@Grumman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grumman)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2009, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroic-tv-show-characters-who-have-committed-cold-blooded-murder-spoilers-inevitable/511881/22 "2009-09-28T20:22:27Z")
> [@labtrash](#): > > If sending wave after wave of solidiers to their doom is cold blooded murder, I’d nominate Zap Brannigan from **Futurama**. The OP said _heroic_ characters. ---
**Author:** ![borschevsky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/97f17d/32.png) [@borschevsky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/borschevsky)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2009, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroic-tv-show-characters-who-have-committed-cold-blooded-murder-spoilers-inevitable/511881/23 "2009-09-28T20:31:29Z")
Jack cut off that dude’s head at the start of season 2 as well. How about President Bartlett? He had what’s-his-name killed at the end of season 3. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2009, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroic-tv-show-characters-who-have-committed-cold-blooded-murder-spoilers-inevitable/511881/24 "2009-09-28T20:31:48Z")
Captain Janeway of\* Voyager\*. She killed the character Tuvix who was created by the merger of Neelix and Tuvok in a transporter accident by having him separated into his components. Arguably B’Elanna Torres in _Voyager_ when she breaks the robot she’s just created for a race of robots who need her skills to make more of themselves. Arguable because it’s uncertain if they qualify as people; and even more arguable if that particular robot was. Captain Picard ( although it was in one of the movies ) killed a Starfleet officer who’d been infected by the Borg rather than letting the assimilation process finish. ---
**Author:** ![tr0psn4j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/958977/32.png) [@tr0psn4j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tr0psn4j)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2009, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroic-tv-show-characters-who-have-committed-cold-blooded-murder-spoilers-inevitable/511881/25 "2009-09-28T20:34:03Z")
What did Micheal Westin from Burn Notice do? ---
**Author:** ![aruvqan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aruvqan/32/2891_2.png) [@aruvqan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aruvqan)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2009, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroic-tv-show-characters-who-have-committed-cold-blooded-murder-spoilers-inevitable/511881/26 "2009-09-28T20:34:18Z")
> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#): > > Which is not to deny that Mrs. Fletcher was quite likely an extremely clever serial killer. Who the hell were these people who invited her _anywhere_? Personally, if I was the random peace officer of wherever Mrs Fletcher was showing up, the first thing I would do is run her out of town or arrest her and put her in the jail … _someone_ always turns up dead… ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2009, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroic-tv-show-characters-who-have-committed-cold-blooded-murder-spoilers-inevitable/511881/27 "2009-09-28T20:40:46Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > Captain Janeway of\* Voyager\*. She killed the character Tuvix who was created by the merger of Neelix and Tuvok in a transporter accident by having him separated into his components. I’m pretty sure you have to discount Janeway. As Grumman pointed out above, the OP specifies **heroic** characters, and Voyager only makes sense if you assume that Kate was a deep cover Cardassian operative. > [@](#): > > Arguably B’Elanna Torres in _Voyager_ when she breaks the robot she’s just created for a race of robots who need her skills to make more of themselves. Arguable because it’s uncertain if they qualify as people; and even more arguable if that particular robot was. Oh, no one cares. Next you’ll be arguing that the HoloDoc should be allowed to turn himself on and off. > [@](#): > > Captain Picard ( although it was in one of the movies ) killed a Starfleet officer who’d been infected by the Borg rather than letting the assimilation process finish. I think that was justifable. Certainly there was no malice; he wasn’t doing it to punish the Borg but to save the officer from a horrible fate. ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2009, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroic-tv-show-characters-who-have-committed-cold-blooded-murder-spoilers-inevitable/511881/28 "2009-09-28T21:01:56Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > I’m surprised that Willow (of _Buffy_ fame) has yet to be mentioned. Her killing of Warren at the end of S6 wasn’t “in the heat of battle” and was done with plenty of malice and aforethought. Spoilers for Season 8 (comics)Warren didn’t really die, Amy the [del]bitch[/del] witch somehow saved him :rolleyes: You can say it’s non-canon, but considering these were done by Joss himself, not just some writer the comic company hired to write a licensed comic… Anyway, I nominate Bill from True Blood. Not for all the people he must have eaten over the years, but for Sookie’s uncle. That was murder, no two ways about it. ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2009, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroic-tv-show-characters-who-have-committed-cold-blooded-murder-spoilers-inevitable/511881/29 "2009-09-28T21:16:09Z")
There was an episode of Star Trek TNG where [Data had been captured by a collector](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0708809/). It was pointed out several times that Data was programmed not to kill, but at the end of the episode it was revealed that he had fired his phaser, which had been set to kill. ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2009, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroic-tv-show-characters-who-have-committed-cold-blooded-murder-spoilers-inevitable/511881/30 "2009-09-28T21:23:45Z")
> [@kunilou](#): > > There was an episode of Star Trek TNG where [Data had been captured by a collector](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0708809/). It was pointed out several times that Data was programmed not to kill, but at the end of the episode it was revealed that he had fired his phaser, which had been set to kill. Even worse, that collector was clearly just a future Warehouse 13 agent, trying to keep things out of the wrong hands!😉 ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2009, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroic-tv-show-characters-who-have-committed-cold-blooded-murder-spoilers-inevitable/511881/31 "2009-09-28T21:33:31Z")
> [@TBG](#): > > Spoilers for Season 8 (comics)Warren didn’t really die, Amy the [del]bitch[/del] witch somehow saved him :rolleyes: > > You can say it’s non-canon, but considering these were done by Joss himself, not just some writer the comic company hired to write a licensed comic… Nah, it’s canon I guess. But this means that the First (S7 badguy for those not Wise In The Ways Of Buffy) _can_ impersonate living people, which wasn’t the case back in S7. ---
**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2009, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroic-tv-show-characters-who-have-committed-cold-blooded-murder-spoilers-inevitable/511881/32 "2009-09-28T21:35:26Z")
> [@labtrash](#): > > If sending wave after wave of solidiers to their doom is cold blooded murder, I’d nominate Zap Brannigan from **Futurama**. Well if you’ve got a better way to stop killbots, then I’d like to hear it. ---
**Author:** ![BrotherCadfael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@BrotherCadfael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrotherCadfael)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2009, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroic-tv-show-characters-who-have-committed-cold-blooded-murder-spoilers-inevitable/511881/33 "2009-09-28T21:45:45Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > I’m surprised that Willow (of _Buffy_ fame) has yet to be mentioned. Her killing of Warren at the end of S6 wasn’t “in the heat of battle” and was done with plenty of malice and aforethought. > > Yet she got away with it. > > Then there’s, oh, what’s his name… you know: Tucker’s brother. 😉 He killed Jonathan and didn’t have to pay for his crime. Other than the “punishment” of being locked up in a house with a dozen or so hot chicks… Well, given Andrew’ fairly clearly expressed orienttion, that might just have been punishment… (You may recall him sighing over Scott Bakula.) ---
**Author:** ![The\_Peyote\_Coyote](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5f8ce5/32.png) [@The\_Peyote\_Coyote](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Peyote_Coyote)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2009, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroic-tv-show-characters-who-have-committed-cold-blooded-murder-spoilers-inevitable/511881/34 "2009-09-28T21:49:07Z")
On an old issue of Hill Street Blues, a thug was out after Furillo’s wife. Two officers, Neal and his assholish white partner, followed the guy around all day, breaking up a couple of deals and forcing him into cold turkey conditions. He finally ran amok and they blew him away. I would say that counts. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2009, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroic-tv-show-characters-who-have-committed-cold-blooded-murder-spoilers-inevitable/511881/35 "2009-09-28T21:51:34Z")
> [@BrotherCadfael](#): > > Well, given Andrew’ fairly clearly expressed orienttion, that might just have been punishment… > > (You may recall him sighing over Scott Bakula.) Not to mention the fact that he was entirely uninterested in watching the wondrous Willow make out with her girlfriend. Of course, given that said girlfriend was an irritating skank whom Rosenberg became involved with only on the rebound and who was not worthy to lick the dirt off Tara’s spats, his uninterest may be forgiven. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2009, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroic-tv-show-characters-who-have-committed-cold-blooded-murder-spoilers-inevitable/511881/36 "2009-09-28T22:06:28Z")
> [@BrotherCadfael](#): > > Well, given Andrew’ fairly clearly expressed orienttion, that might just have been punishment… > > (You may recall him sighing over Scott Bakula.) Yeah, I was just speaking from _my_ POV. 😉 Even though the situation would be more along the lines of “They’re all hot… and _under eighteen_? WHY, GOD, WHY???” Don’t forget the scene where the Nerd Cameras catch Anya and Spike doin’ the nasty and Andrews comment was “He’s so cool… uh, and the girl’s hot too!” ---
**Author:** ![Lakai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de0a6/32.png) [@Lakai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lakai)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2009, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroic-tv-show-characters-who-have-committed-cold-blooded-murder-spoilers-inevitable/511881/37 "2009-09-28T22:06:40Z")
> [@tr0psn4j](#): > > What did Micheal Westin from Burn Notice do? We see him kill at least two people on screen. One was going to be killed anyway, but the other was threatening to kill Fiona. He has also killed a lot of bad guys indirectly. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2009, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroic-tv-show-characters-who-have-committed-cold-blooded-murder-spoilers-inevitable/511881/38 "2009-09-28T22:09:02Z")
> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#): > > Not to mention the fact that he was entirely uninterested in watching the wondrous Willow make out with her girlfriend. Of course, given that said girlfriend was an irritating skank whom Rosenberg became involved with only on the rebound and who was not worthy to lick the dirt off Tara’s spats, his uninterest may be forgiven. Yeah, but since Iyari Limon played peek-a-boo with my little girl some years ago at a [Cleveland Vulkon](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=180325), I’ve forgiven her for the travesty that was Kennedy and properly placed the blame on Joss. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2009, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroic-tv-show-characters-who-have-committed-cold-blooded-murder-spoilers-inevitable/511881/39 "2009-09-28T22:11:30Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Yeah, but since Iyari Limon played peek-a-boo with my little girl some years ago at a [Cleveland Vulkon](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=180325), I’ve forgiven her for the travesty that was Kennedy and properly placed the blame on Joss. Oh, I have nothing against Ms. Limon; I didn’t even know her name till you posted it. I would even say that she was cuter than Amber Benson. But I was speaking of the characters, not the actresses; I liked Tara and despised she-who-shall-not-be-named. ---
**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2009, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroic-tv-show-characters-who-have-committed-cold-blooded-murder-spoilers-inevitable/511881/40 "2009-09-28T22:14:14Z")
> [@BrotherCadfael](#): > > Well, given Andrew’ fairly clearly expressed orienttion, that might just have been punishment… > > (You may recall him sighing over Scott Bakula.) However, his appearance in ANGEL with his lady entourage suggests that Andrew may have expanded his range a tad. (One day, my mom walked in when I was expanding my range a tad. I was pretty embarrassed.) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroic-tv-show-characters-who-have-committed-cold-blooded-murder-spoilers-inevitable/511881.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heroic-tv-show-characters-who-have-committed-cold-blooded-murder-spoilers-inevitable/511881.md?page=3)