# Heros and villians with Helmets rather than masks **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 15, 2011, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heros-and-villians-with-helmets-rather-than-masks/582006 "2011-05-15T16:35:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2011, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heros-and-villians-with-helmets-rather-than-masks/582006/1 "2011-05-15T16:35:50Z")
For a costume for a concept character with a helmet rather than a mask I wanted to look at heroic and/or costumed characters that also had helmets. Magneto, Juggernaut, I’m familiar with. Nothing too Camelot. What other comic heroes or villains have helmets? ---
**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2011, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heros-and-villians-with-helmets-rather-than-masks/582006/2 "2011-05-15T16:38:43Z")
Dr Fate wears one as well although the full head covering is not the way I’m going to go. ---
**Author:** ![Capitaine\_Zombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e95f7d/32.png) [@Capitaine\_Zombie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capitaine_Zombie)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2011, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heros-and-villians-with-helmets-rather-than-masks/582006/3 "2011-05-15T16:41:43Z")
Marvel: Villains: Loki, Galactus, Wizard Heroes: Black Knight, Nova, I guess Iron Man is out since it is a mask/helmet. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2011, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heros-and-villians-with-helmets-rather-than-masks/582006/4 "2011-05-15T16:48:56Z")
Golden age Flash Jay Garrick. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2011, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heros-and-villians-with-helmets-rather-than-masks/582006/5 "2011-05-15T17:00:18Z")
Any of the powered armor types, like Iron Man. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2011, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heros-and-villians-with-helmets-rather-than-masks/582006/6 "2011-05-15T17:05:22Z")
Dark Helmet. ---
**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2011, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heros-and-villians-with-helmets-rather-than-masks/582006/7 "2011-05-15T17:17:38Z")
> [@Capitaine\_Zombie](#): > > Marvel: > Villains: Loki, Galactus, Wizard > Heroes: Black Knight, Nova, I guess Iron Man is out since it is a mask/helmet. Nova, Something along those lines. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2011, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heros-and-villians-with-helmets-rather-than-masks/582006/8 "2011-05-15T17:24:17Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Any of the powered armor types, like Iron Man. True, I’m thinking Helmet mask, something like Nova or the [DC Universe Cyclotron](http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/3/38734/1352095-cyclotron_super.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.comicvine.com/cyclotron/29-70916/&usg=__EMnn4TA3sS-brnsvyrw9IuyTm7I=&h=902&w=600&sz=34&hl=en&start=0&zoom=1&tbnid=8IPOUVEQS4klSM:&tbnh=188&tbnw=143&ei=BQvQTZidG4PKgQfuwujSDA&prev=/search%3Fq%3DCyclotron%2Bcomic%2Bbook%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26channel%3Dnp%26biw%3D1360%26bih%3D704%26tbm%3Disch&um=1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=250&vpy=118&dur=7853&hovh=275&hovw=183&tx=136&ty=108&page=1&ndsp=25&ved=1t:429,r:1,s:0) so the character looks more human than robot. Although that cool auto descending helmet thing might work. Extends down for action, slides up for talking. ---
**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2011, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heros-and-villians-with-helmets-rather-than-masks/582006/9 "2011-05-15T17:25:20Z")
> [@John\_DiFool](#): > > Dark Helmet. 😃 {I can’t breath in this thing} ---
**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2011, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heros-and-villians-with-helmets-rather-than-masks/582006/10 "2011-05-15T17:29:09Z")
btw; looking up Cyclotron, I wasn’t familiar with [this guy](http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/15696/308976-84893-cyclotron_large.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.comicvine.com/cyclotron/29-32284/&usg=__BdOIja7tyjuLmEWOAtt4NcnfipY=&h=635&w=300&sz=49&hl=en&start=0&zoom=1&tbnid=jPD78IMHboWbgM:&tbnh=188&tbnw=89&ei=7gzQTfjiFcLo0QGnsvXsDQ&prev=/search%3Fq%3DCyclotron%2Bcomic%2Bbook%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26channel%3Dnp%26biw%3D1360%26bih%3D704%26tbm%3Disch&um=1&itbs=1&iact=rc&dur=481&page=1&ndsp=25&ved=1t:429,r:0,s:0&tx=29&ty=57), who looks way to much like early Captain Atom. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2011, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heros-and-villians-with-helmets-rather-than-masks/582006/11 "2011-05-15T17:51:49Z")
It seems to me that some versions of Captain America have worn an infantry helmet, but I’m having a hard time finding pictures. ---
**Author:** ![Capitaine\_Zombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e95f7d/32.png) [@Capitaine\_Zombie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capitaine_Zombie)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2011, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heros-and-villians-with-helmets-rather-than-masks/582006/12 "2011-05-15T17:54:11Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > It seems to me that some versions of Captain America have worn an infantry helmet, but I’m having a hard time finding pictures. Ultimate version I guess. Google Bryan Hitch+Captain America ---
**Author:** ![Alan\_Smithee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/2acd7d/32.png) [@Alan\_Smithee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alan_Smithee)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2011, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heros-and-villians-with-helmets-rather-than-masks/582006/13 "2011-05-15T17:55:54Z")
Never heard of Cyclotron, but he reminded me of Judge Dredd. He has a cool helmet. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2011, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heros-and-villians-with-helmets-rather-than-masks/582006/14 "2011-05-15T18:33:21Z")
> [@cosmosdan](#): > > Dr Fate wears one as well although the full head covering is not the way I’m going to go. He switched to a more conventional half-helmet during WWII. ---
**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2011, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heros-and-villians-with-helmets-rather-than-masks/582006/15 "2011-05-15T19:01:07Z")
> [@Alan\_Smithee](#): > > Never heard of Cyclotron, but he reminded me of Judge Dredd. He has a cool helmet. Ah yes. He definitely does and [this](http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://img.listal.com/image/299301/600full-judge-dredd-poster.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.listal.com/viewimage/299301&usg=__BsEwLxI5Cfw1amC3c1jder1gs2w=&h=408&w=272&sz=10&hl=en&start=15&zoom=1&tbnid=9_HZMxVeauRQeM:&tbnh=125&tbnw=83&ei=-SHQTeSuPIbWgQeD79DSDA&prev=/search%3Fq%3DJudge%2BDredd%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26sa%3DN%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26channel%3Dnp%26biw%3D1360%26bih%3D704%26tbm%3Disch0%2C228&um=1&itbs=1&biw=1360&bih=704)seems to be more of what I had in mind. I can image a play of light, and or energy across the visor as well. I was looking at DC Who’s who and came across [ye old Peacemaker](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Peacemakercc0.jpg) from Charlton comics. Liked the character, but the helmet was to big. ---
**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2011, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heros-and-villians-with-helmets-rather-than-masks/582006/16 "2011-05-15T19:05:07Z")
The [Black Knight’s more contemporary helmet](http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?p=5108670) isn’t too bad but I think something close to the Dredd style is going to work. ---
**Author:** ![Clark\_K](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c77e96/32.png) [@Clark\_K](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clark_K)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2011, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heros-and-villians-with-helmets-rather-than-masks/582006/17 "2011-05-15T19:08:17Z")
DC’s Guardian wears a helmet _and_ a mask, or at least he has at times. > **[James Harper (New Earth)](https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/James_Harper_(New_Earth))** > > "Super-hero"? There's a phrase I haven't heard before. I'm sort of a guardian, I guess -- Yes, a Guardian of society, against your kind. Guardian James Jacob "Jim" Harper was the street-level vigilante the Guardian. In his civilian life, he was a... ---
**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2011, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heros-and-villians-with-helmets-rather-than-masks/582006/18 "2011-05-15T19:09:38Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > He switched to a more conventional half-helmet during WWII. I seem to remember that but I couldn’t find an image. Must have been similar to [Guardian](http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://ryanlb.com/images/dc/wantlist/guardian-1.jpg&imgrefurl=http://clonesparadise.blogspot.com/2009/02/dcuc-wave-9-announced-at-nycc.html&usg=__oWLpg61_kySXR1izTXK9VRrUfnc=&h=1310&w=730&sz=239&hl=en&start=14&zoom=1&tbnid=TfbsO6FXtPe1bM:&tbnh=150&tbnw=84&ei=_iPQTdefCKnt0gG3z7nyDQ&prev=/search%3Fq%3DDr%2BFate%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26sa%3DN%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26channel%3Dnp%26biw%3D1360%26bih%3D704%26tbm%3Disch0%2C5700%2C342&um=1&itbs=1&biw=1360&bih=704) ---
**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2011, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heros-and-villians-with-helmets-rather-than-masks/582006/19 "2011-05-15T19:13:03Z")
> [@Clark\_K](#): > > DC’s Guardian wears a helmet _and_ a mask, or at least he has at times. > > [James Harper (New Earth) | DC Database | Fandom](http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/James_Harper_(New_Earth)) Well, that’s in case his helmet falls off in a fight. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2011, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heros-and-villians-with-helmets-rather-than-masks/582006/20 "2011-05-15T19:18:12Z")
> [@cosmosdan](#): > > I seem to remember that but I couldn’t find an image. Must have been similar to [Guardian](http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://ryanlb.com/images/dc/wantlist/guardian-1.jpg&imgrefurl=http://clonesparadise.blogspot.com/2009/02/dcuc-wave-9-announced-at-nycc.html&usg=__oWLpg61_kySXR1izTXK9VRrUfnc=&h=1310&w=730&sz=239&hl=en&start=14&zoom=1&tbnid=TfbsO6FXtPe1bM:&tbnh=150&tbnw=84&ei=_iPQTdefCKnt0gG3z7nyDQ&prev=/search%3Fq%3DDr%2BFate%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26sa%3DN%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26channel%3Dnp%26biw%3D1360%26bih%3D704%26tbm%3Disch0%2C5700%2C342&um=1&itbs=1&biw=1360&bih=704) [http://images.wikia.com/marvel\_dc/images/b/b6/All-Star\_Squadron\_Vol\_1\_0\_001.jpg](http://images.wikia.com/marvel_dc/images/b/b6/All-Star_Squadron_Vol_1_0_001.jpg) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heros-and-villians-with-helmets-rather-than-masks/582006.md?page=2)