# Heros and villians with Helmets rather than masks **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 15, 2011, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heros-and-villians-with-helmets-rather-than-masks/582006 "2011-05-15T16:35:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2011, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heros-and-villians-with-helmets-rather-than-masks/582006/21 "2011-05-15T19:44:07Z")
From City of Heroes, there’s [Statesman](http://wiki.cohtitan.com/w/images//d/d3/Statesman.jpg), [Imperious](http://wiki.cohtitan.com/w/images//6/6f/ImperiousContact.JPG), [and](http://wiki.cohtitan.com/w/images//e/ec/Tyrant.jpg) [Tyrant](http://wiki.cohtitan.com/w/images//0/0a/Tyrant.png) (two versions of the latter). ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2011, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heros-and-villians-with-helmets-rather-than-masks/582006/22 "2011-05-15T19:51:29Z")
Is that a helmet that Hawkman wears? ---
**Author:** ![nivlac](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/3bc359/32.png) [@nivlac](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nivlac)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2011, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heros-and-villians-with-helmets-rather-than-masks/582006/23 "2011-05-15T20:13:59Z")
What about Darth Vader??? ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2011, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heros-and-villians-with-helmets-rather-than-masks/582006/24 "2011-05-15T20:43:55Z")
Both Red Hoods wore helmets. The original, and Jason in his second costume, wore tall bucket style helmets that connected to their shoulders. Jason’s first costume is a motorcycle style helmet. Similarly Red X of the Teen Titans cartoon and associated comic. The later Vigilantes (the ones who aren’t styled on a cowboy) also wear motorcycle-style helmets. The [second Ray](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_(Ray_Terrill)) wears a helmet styled after the first Ray’s mask. The Knight, of course, wears a helmet. The first wore a simple spangenhelm, the current one wears a visored helmet styled after Batman’s mask. Several other members of the Club of Heroes wore them as well - Dark Ranger has a motorcycle-style helmet, Legionnairy has a Roman-style crested helm, the second and third Wingmen, like Knight, have helmets styled after Batman’s cowl. On Batman related characters, the second, third, and fourth Owlmen all have helmets - styled after an Owl’s head, of course. (Also, after Batman’s cowl. Which is, itself, sometimes depicted as a helmet!) And, speaking of Crime Syndicate/Society characters, 2 of the 3 evil Johnny Quicks have helmets - the second Crime Syndicate JQ had a silver helmet with a visor that covered his eyes and nose, the Crime Society JQ has one that’s rather like a bicycle helmet that extends down over his eyes and ears. ---
**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2011, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heros-and-villians-with-helmets-rather-than-masks/582006/25 "2011-05-15T20:51:29Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > From City of Heroes, there’s [Statesman](http://wiki.cohtitan.com/w/images//d/d3/Statesman.jpg), [Imperious](http://wiki.cohtitan.com/w/images//6/6f/ImperiousContact.JPG), [and](http://wiki.cohtitan.com/w/images//e/ec/Tyrant.jpg) [Tyrant](http://wiki.cohtitan.com/w/images//0/0a/Tyrant.png) (two versions of the latter). All pretty cool. Bought the game years ago and never played. ---
**Author:** ![cmkeller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmkeller/32/118_2.png) [@cmkeller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmkeller)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2011, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heros-and-villians-with-helmets-rather-than-masks/582006/26 "2011-05-15T22:31:55Z")
Bulletman and Bulletgirl. ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2011, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heros-and-villians-with-helmets-rather-than-masks/582006/27 "2011-05-15T22:50:22Z")
No mention of Thor yet? Also, the 70’s TV movie version of Captain America wore a [motorcycle helmet](http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_hC5TAf87deI/S4Fgma9mSrI/AAAAAAAABTY/eQfkdrGHmPs/s400/captainamerica1.jpg) as part of his costume. ---
**Author:** ![JThunder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e95f7d/32.png) [@JThunder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JThunder)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heros-and-villians-with-helmets-rather-than-masks/582006/28 "2011-05-16T05:59:04Z")
Does Ma Hunkle count? ---
**Author:** ![drastic\_quench](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e36b37/32.png) [@drastic\_quench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drastic_quench)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 6:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heros-and-villians-with-helmets-rather-than-masks/582006/29 "2011-05-16T06:52:21Z")
The Rocketeer has the coolest helmet ever. Art Deco FTW. Boba Fett’s is alright. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 11:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heros-and-villians-with-helmets-rather-than-masks/582006/30 "2011-05-16T11:31:34Z")
> [@JThunder](#): > > Does Ma Hunkle count? Can a bucket be a helmet? ---
**Author:** ![ExTank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@ExTank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ExTank)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heros-and-villians-with-helmets-rather-than-masks/582006/31 "2011-05-16T13:46:10Z")
[The](http://www.mysteriousworld.com/Content/Images/Journal/2003/Summer/Giants/TheKurgan.jpg) [Kurgan.](http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.movievillains.com/images/kurgan.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.movievillains.com/archives/2004/08/the_kurgan.html&usg=__WvUQg6ZMOOa5wxV0xmDvdi2SFGM=&h=301&w=225&sz=26&hl=en&start=2&zoom=1&itbs=1&tbnid=NlrctM9LdfJRVM:&tbnh=116&tbnw=87&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dthe%2Bkurgan%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DX%26rls%3Dcom.microsoft:en-US%26biw%3D1259%26bih%3D656%26tbm%3Disch%26prmd%3Divns&ei=lCnRTZ25LIbd0QHSid3mDQ) ---
**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heros-and-villians-with-helmets-rather-than-masks/582006/32 "2011-05-16T15:56:32Z")
> [@nivlac](#): > > What about Darth Vader??? I’ll lobby for “full face mask as part of a helmet” qualifies as a helmet. I’m understanding this thread as treating “mask” as “something to hide the wearer’s identity”, whereas Lord Vader’s mask is part of his life-support system. Plus samurai helmets incorporated full face masks; there are plenty of real world examples of other combat helmets providing full face protection. ---
**Author:** ![Satchmo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/satchmo/32/4223_2.png) [@Satchmo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Satchmo)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heros-and-villians-with-helmets-rather-than-masks/582006/33 "2011-05-16T20:00:44Z")
Ant-man always wore a helmet, though I’m a little confused about what counts and what doesn’t in this tread. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Tildrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e95f7d/32.png) [@Tom\_Tildrum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Tildrum)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heros-and-villians-with-helmets-rather-than-masks/582006/34 "2011-05-16T20:37:04Z")
The [Whizzer](http://www.cracked.com/article_16547_the-7-crappiest-super-heroes-in-comic-book-history_p2.html). ---
**Author:** ![Scissorjack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@Scissorjack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scissorjack)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heros-and-villians-with-helmets-rather-than-masks/582006/35 "2011-05-16T20:59:40Z")
[Judge Death](http://www.dialbforblog.com/archives/148/jdeath_bolland.gif) and [Judge Fear](http://www.byrnerobotics.com/forum/uploads/JohnByrne2/2011-04-19_120432_Gaze_Into_the_Fist_of_Dredd.jpg) {pictured being punched out}. ---
**Author:** ![Scissorjack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@Scissorjack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scissorjack)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heros-and-villians-with-helmets-rather-than-masks/582006/36 "2011-05-16T21:08:30Z")
And while I’m on 2000AD characters, [Rogue Trooper](http://www.grovel.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/2000ad-02.jpg) and [Johnny Alpha](http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/13925/286128-64737-johnny-alpha_super.jpg). ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heros-and-villians-with-helmets-rather-than-masks/582006/37 "2011-05-16T21:16:11Z")
Golden Age Atom, in his second costume. Golden Age Starman. Lots o helmets in the JSA, didja ever notice? ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_Prize](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d2c977/32.png) [@Sir\_Prize](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_Prize)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heros-and-villians-with-helmets-rather-than-masks/582006/38 "2011-05-16T21:54:10Z")
Tank from the DNAgents. Speed Racer ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heros-and-villians-with-helmets-rather-than-masks/582006/39 "2011-05-16T22:02:43Z")
Von Doom. And Hawkman. Yes, he once called it a helmet, in the Silver Age. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Peyote\_Coyote](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5f8ce5/32.png) [@The\_Peyote\_Coyote](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Peyote_Coyote)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heros-and-villians-with-helmets-rather-than-masks/582006/40 "2011-05-16T22:19:45Z")
Dream of the Endless wore a helmet made of one of his enemies. Conan the Barbarian wore a helmet (quite frequently in Howard’s work, sometimes in the Marvel Comics) Mysterio, could his globe be considered a helmet? Doc Savage sometimes wore a bronze skullcap to protect his head. Could that be considered a helmet? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heros-and-villians-with-helmets-rather-than-masks/582006.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heros-and-villians-with-helmets-rather-than-masks/582006.md?page=3)