# Herschel Walker (need I say more?) **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [October 7, 2022, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/herschel-walker-need-i-say-more/972861 "2022-10-07T01:34:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/herschel-walker-need-i-say-more/972861/261 "2022-11-18T00:47:15Z")
Sign of the times: > ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/herschel-walker-need-i-say-more/972861/262 "2022-11-18T15:39:47Z")
[When Wolf](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BgRjOR9N3E&ab_channel=TotallyRandomFlicks). ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/herschel-walker-need-i-say-more/972861/263 "2022-11-18T18:02:03Z")
> [@Ike\_Witt](#): > > [When Wolf](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BgRjOR9N3E&ab_channel=TotallyRandomFlicks). _During a full Moon_, come on guys this is basic stuff it drives me crazy we’re still covering this. ---
**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2022, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/herschel-walker-need-i-say-more/972861/264 "2022-11-19T02:11:22Z")
> [@dtilque](#): > > Undead Lives Matter Undead, Yes. Unperson, No. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2022, 9:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/herschel-walker-need-i-say-more/972861/265 "2022-11-19T09:36:33Z")
This is why I love you (people). ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2022, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/herschel-walker-need-i-say-more/972861/266 "2022-11-21T21:36:18Z")
Walker explains that it’s Warnock’s fault that _All In The Family_ is off the air: > ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2022, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/herschel-walker-need-i-say-more/972861/267 "2022-11-21T21:40:36Z")
Can I assume that with sufficient brain damage this… sentence, “_But because of Senator Warnock, it wouldn’t be on the air because he’s still living in the past._” will suddenly become coherent? ---
**Author:** ![Cardigan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardigan/32/187_2.png) [@Cardigan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardigan)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2022, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/herschel-walker-need-i-say-more/972861/268 "2022-11-21T21:42:06Z")
You just can’t make this stuff up. 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2022, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/herschel-walker-need-i-say-more/972861/269 "2022-11-21T22:13:49Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > Can I assume that with sufficient brain damage this… sentence, > “_But because of Senator Warnock, it wouldn’t be on the air because he’s still living in the past._” > will suddenly become coherent? I want to bring that remarkable sentence to the attention of linguists and all defenders of descriptivism who claim that humans have an innate instinct for language, and although we may not all be exceptionally eloquent, we adhere to a natural basic grammar and do not randomly utter completely incoherent sentences that cannot possibly be parsed. Either that premise is false, or Walker is not a functional human. I’m open to either interpretation. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2022, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/herschel-walker-need-i-say-more/972861/270 "2022-11-21T22:15:42Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > Can I assume that with sufficient brain damage this… sentence, > “_But because of Senator Warnock, it wouldn’t be on the air because he’s still living in the past._” > will suddenly become coherent? If somebody’s brain is that damaged; it’s time to check their driver’s license for an organ-donor notation. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2022, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/herschel-walker-need-i-say-more/972861/271 "2022-11-21T22:19:46Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > Either that premise is false, or Walker is not a functional human. Even the Pirahã have recursion, so you needn’t go full Chomsky to support this contention. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2022, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/herschel-walker-need-i-say-more/972861/272 "2022-11-21T22:32:49Z")
There’s been debate about whether or not the Pirahã language has recursion, but Chomsky has claimed that even if it doesn’t, it wouldn’t overturn his fundamental theories of linguistics. But Herschel Walker’s utterance, if true, does threaten to undermine Chomsky’s underlying premise for a universal grammar, namely that there are innate constraints on what the grammar of a possible human language could be. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2022, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/herschel-walker-need-i-say-more/972861/273 "2022-11-21T22:40:55Z")
Gotta love the Dope! ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2022, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/herschel-walker-need-i-say-more/972861/274 "2022-11-21T23:29:42Z")
FWIW, I just learned a new word today. ---
**Author:** ![PatrickLondon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/patricklondon/32/4422_2.png) [@PatrickLondon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickLondon)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2022, 6:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/herschel-walker-need-i-say-more/972861/275 "2022-11-22T06:59:48Z")
> [@JKellyMap](#): > > Even the Pirahã have recursion, so you needn’t go full Chomsky to support this contention. I wish I could find a convenient conversation where I could just let that drop. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2022, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/herschel-walker-need-i-say-more/972861/276 "2022-11-22T15:02:03Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > “_But because of Senator Warnock, it wouldn’t be on the air because he’s still living in the past._” Well, I think maybe he is possibly trying to imply that the same way people say “Blazing Saddles” couldn’t be made today, that “All in the Family” also wouldn’t get by the Woke Police. And that reference is going to really resonate with the under 50 crowd. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2022, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/herschel-walker-need-i-say-more/972861/277 "2022-11-22T15:11:49Z")
And which entirely misses the **point** of those works. He’s basically saying Archie should be allowed to go on being Archie and never change or learn a thing or be called out and you should just let them live in the past. ---
**Author:** ![Meltdown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Meltdown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meltdown)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2022, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/herschel-walker-need-i-say-more/972861/278 "2022-11-22T15:13:12Z")
> [@Folacin](#): > > Well, I think maybe he is possibly trying to imply that the same way people say “Blazing Saddles” couldn’t be made today, that “All in the Family” also wouldn’t get by the Woke Police. I was thinking that too – but if that’s what he meant, he undercuts it with the line “because he’s still living in the past.” If Warnock was living in the past, wouldn’t a TV show that was made in the past be something that would be made? In other words, if he’s trying to say that Warnock is woke, then “living in the past” is the complete opposite way to describe him. I know, I’m trying to apply logic where it doesn’t exist… ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2022, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/herschel-walker-need-i-say-more/972861/279 "2022-11-22T15:28:53Z")
> [@Meltdown](#): > > In other words, if he’s trying to say that Warnock is woke, then “living in the past” is the complete opposite way to describe him. You’re not putting the proper Alt-right MAGA spin on it today. Warnock is still “living in the past” because he thinks racism is still a problem. He can’t just let people _enjoy_ racism as part of their culture now that racism doesn’t actually exist anymore, as any good Republican will tell you. ---
**Author:** ![Meltdown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Meltdown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meltdown)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2022, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/herschel-walker-need-i-say-more/972861/280 "2022-11-22T16:13:52Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > You’re not putting the proper Alt-right MAGA spin on it today. Warnock is still “living in the past” because he thinks racism is still a problem. He can’t just let people _enjoy_ racism as part of their culture now that racism doesn’t actually exist anymore, as any good Republican will tell you. Oh, I get it now. There’s a good past and a bad past. Walker wants to return us to the good past, where everybody was chill and no one cared about the opinions of people who weren’t white. Warnock, on the other hand, keeps thinking about the bad past, which clearly ended, um, sometime. But now Warnock wants to make the bad past the real future because he can’t stop living in the bad past, while Walker wants to stop him by making sure only the good past gets through the present to become the real future. I’ve got my talking points for Thanksgiving down now. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/herschel-walker-need-i-say-more/972861.md?page=13) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/herschel-walker-need-i-say-more/972861.md?page=15)