Here is the journal article, fully cited, that supports the claim of fraud. I can’t go into individual’s medical records, but I can trust a cited scientific journal.
Eta: for the record, this is the journal article referred to in the previously linked popular press article. Hardly the author “making up” anything. Just summarizing a research article for the lay person.
I think he did sue already, and he lost.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504763_162-20027552-10391704.html
The evidence of filing a patent is pretty easy to show. Why no evidence?
What patent are you referring to?
How about this one naming Wakefield as one of the inventors of a MMR vaccine. PDF link.
The one mentioned in the OP. Hell, shouldn’t that be a requirement before posting in a thread?
OP = Opening Post
Just in case ignorance is rampant.
I’m pretty used to people not reading, but c’mon. It was the first thing I responded to. I even quoted the OP to make it easy to follow.
Throw me a bone here.
Charming. I read the- what did you call it- Oh- Pee? :rolleyes: a while ago and forgot. My bad frankly I thought you were referring to the link you directly quoted, which was referencing the current conversation.
Any comment on the articles I spent time hunting down for you to counter your bizarre claims that MMR- autism link was a conspiracy theory?
And there’s your evidence, the very patent application for a competing vaccine that Wakefield previously denied submitting.
Note how in Wakefield’s patent filing he claims that the existing MMR vaccine causes inflammatory bowel disease and autism (allegations without merit). So much for the argument by Wakefield’s supporters that his notoriously flawed Lancet study was just a small survey of gut problems in autistic patients and that Wakefield himself never intended to make sweeping claims about the MMR vaccine causing autism. The evidence is solid that not only did Wakefield take in huge sums of money from lawyers hoping to sue the government over alleged vaccine damage, but Wakefield also hoped to profit from the fallout over the MMR vaccine by marketing his competing version.
It’s also interesting that Wakefield’s associate in the patent filing (as “co-inventor”) is Hugh Fudenberg, another researcher with a, um, checkered past.
“In November 1995, the South Carolina Medical Board concluded that Fudenberg was “guilty of engaging in dishonorable, unethical, or unprofessional conduct,” and he was fined $10,000 and ordered to surrender his license to prescribe controlled substances (narcotic drugs). His medical license was also placed on suspension. In March 1996, he was permitted to resume practice under terms of probation that did not permit him to prescribe any drugs. His medical license expired in January 2004; and in March 2004, he applied to have it reinstated. However, after a hearing in which the Board considered a neuropsychatric report issued in 2003, Fudenberg agreed to remain in a “retired” status and withdrew his application for reactivation of his license.”
None of this is a “conspiracy theory”. It’s well-documented fact.
If multiple people were involved, and it was kept secret, it is an actual conspiracy.
My Internet access sucks here in the boonies where I’m on vacation. Missed edit window due to freakish slow loading.
MMR - autism FRAUD link.
Where does it show he denied filing a patent?
Here. Quoted statement by Dr. Wakefield.
Just for fun, 1997 patent application from Royal Free.
Look, that is the same person who wrote the story claiming all of it. You can’t use a story that is being challenged to back up the story being challenged.
OK you can, but it’s worthless.
Again, you are quoting the reporter who was paid to write the article to support the article.
That was from a statement made by Wakefield that was quoted by the reporter.
Again, that was a statement from WAKEFIELD.
I know, I quoted it. It’s quite interesting, all of it.
What’s the matter, you’re not getting enough attention in your nuclear trainwreck thread so you decided to come troll this one?
The way one creates herd immunity was howevr.
I have no problem - I believe I’ve been quite clear on that. Your problem is that you don’t seem to be able to read anything that appears to be against one of your hot buttons without inserting things that haven’t been said.
As I have said, in this case there is no big issue for me. I merely point out that many times we’ve been told by TPTB that such-and-such is safe and good for you, only to find out it ain’t true. Therefore, I do not mindlessly trust all that they claim.
That because that I don’t trust the government and big business? Yeah, I think you’ll find lots of those sorts of folks out there who are not anti-vaxers.
Well, since I’m extremely unlikely to get most of that, and since I could easily get any number of other things that are not vaccinated against, I don’t think I’ll spend much time worrying about it.
This is a perfect example of how you jump to a completely erroneous conclusion. Or you have no idea the difference between chickenpox and smallpox, take your pick.
:rolleyes: I love it. Because I asked questions, I must be something (you consider) evil, eh? No wonder we have so many sheeple out there these days. FTR, vaccines given to pets haven been proven to be toxic and cause harm at times. If that information doesn’t cause you pause and give you any desire to check into what they are pumping into your children, then that is your choice. However, that doesn’t make me some fringe nutter no matter how many times you want to repeat it. Also FTR, as I’ve said before, I give some vaccinations to my pets, and I also have had some myself, including a tetnus shot when I was plenty old enough to say no. On top of that, I don’t have any children to make vaccination choices about. Hardly anti-vax, eh?
You want to really wipe out a dangerous and loathsome disease? Force everyone to get treated for Syph and Gonorrhea. All at the same time. Wipe them off the face of the planet.
Now that would be a good use of medical resources. Don’t have it? No problem, just get tested at the same time. Of all the communicable diseases that would be easy to eradicate, nobody seems to even want to discuss eliminating the really bad shit.