# Hey Bernie, go to hell and take all of your Bros with you **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 22, 2018, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-bernie-go-to-hell-and-take-all-of-your-bros-with-you/809322 "2018-02-22T04:12:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Not\_Carlson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bc79bd/32.png) [@Not\_Carlson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Not_Carlson)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-bernie-go-to-hell-and-take-all-of-your-bros-with-you/809322/61 "2018-02-23T16:14:01Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > I’m terrified he’s going to run in 2020 as an independent, split the democratic/liberal ticket and we’ll end up with 4 more years of… Republicans. However, I have reason to hope much will change between now and 2020. This is something that Sander’s critics should not forget. He could have run as an independent in 2016. Many people encouraged him to run as an independent against Hillary and Trump. He chose to run as a Democrat and then chose to support Hillary and the Democratic party in the election precisely because he did not want to split the vote. Once Hillary clinched the nomination, Sanders worked tirelessly to help her secure the vote, in spite of his dissatisfaction with her, because he knew Trump would be a disaster. As far as I can tell, his only concern is improving the sociopolitical environment of the USA so that it benefits the general population. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-bernie-go-to-hell-and-take-all-of-your-bros-with-you/809322/62 "2018-02-23T16:56:02Z")
> [@Not\_Carlson](#): > > After promising to take up Sander’s cause when desperately seeking his approval in the runup to the election, my understanding is that the Dems have since turned their back on him and progressives, so I can understand why he’d be pissed at more people trying to sabotage his cause by implicating him in the Russian election scandal. > I will be royally pissed if this turns out to be an effort by the Dems to take him out of running from the 2020 election (may God grant him long life and good health) in favour of another run from Hillary. I think the progressives turned their backs on the democrats. Clinton and the democrats did embrace sander’s platform. And sander’s supporters didn’t vote for Clinton. Time and time again, the dems have been burned by trying to appeal to the left wing and far left of the party, but they just won’t show up to the polls. The right wing and far right are very reliable voters. That means that the conservatives pander to that part of the party, even though it’s not in the mainstream. If the left wing and far left were that reliable, then the dems would pander to them as well. > [@Airbeck](#): > > Can we all just agree to vote against Trump? Please? We need to focus on our real enemies. This fighting is helping nobody but Trump and the GOP. We need to be smarter than this, or we are doomed. I can, and most of us can, I think. The people who won’t agree to vote against trump are Sander’s followers though. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-bernie-go-to-hell-and-take-all-of-your-bros-with-you/809322/63 "2018-02-23T17:10:23Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > Time and time again, the dems have been burned by trying to appeal to the left wing and far left of the party, but they just won’t show up to the polls. What do you feel constitutes “appeal[ing] to the left wing and the far left?” Because I’m not seeing it. eta: > [@](#): > > The people who won’t agree to vote against trump are Sander’s followers though. Cite, please? . ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-bernie-go-to-hell-and-take-all-of-your-bros-with-you/809322/64 "2018-02-23T17:10:37Z")
> [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](#): > > The difference is that when Hillary lost to Obama she, after a very tough contentious campaign and one that was a hell of a lot closer than Bernie ever was to Hillary (did you know that they were [essentially tied](https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/democratic_vote_count.html) with raw votes?), she got to work and fully endorsed Obama. In fact, she was actually criticized at the time for taking too long. Here’s an [NBC News article from June 2, 2008](http://www.nbcnews.com/id/24953561/ns/politics-decision_08/t/clinton-refuses-concede-nomination/#.Wo-Y_KjwaHs) that goes into this. A whole three days later, she did. > > Meanwhile in 2016, as early as [early March](https://genius.com/discussions/214738-Bernie-sanders-is-all-but-eliminated-already), outlets such were showing, using past results, math and demographics, that he was essentially eliminated from the race. ([Cite](https://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-dem-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/05/math-says-bernie-sanders-is-finished-222775)) ([Cite](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/04/26/math-is-hard-the-bernie-sanders-story/?utm_term=.0c60b5032c18)) ([Cite](http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/04/27/bernie_sanders_refuses_to_quit_a_race_he_can_t_win.html)) > > His response? [Appeal to superdelegates](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/2016/05/01/sanders-tries-sway-democratic-superdelegates/83795524/)! > > Never mind that early in the race Bernie and his backers [screamed about superdelegates](https://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/bernie-sanders-superdelegates-democrats-219286) thwarting the will of the people. When the will of the people were for Hillary Clinton, suddenly that will was far less important. > > No, Bernie despite math and despite going against his own ethics, didn’t concede. He dragged things out. While Donald Trump cleared away the Republican nomination, there was Hillary still dealing with Weekend At Bernie’s, a dead man who didn’t know he was dead but who still caused Clinton to spend money and time and energy she could have used to start against Trump. Only after he got [unprecedented representation](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/sanders-scores-platform-concessions-from-democratic-national-committee/2016/05/23/e9ee8330-20fc-11e6-aa84-42391ba52c91_story.html?utm_term=.4af80464286f) in the Democratic platform, in mid July (!) did he finally give his endorsement. > > There is literally zero comparison to how Bernie handled losing to Hillary compared to how Hillary lost to Obama. Bernie’s endgame sucked, it helped Trump, and he still continues to help Trump today. Fuck him. We may as well also pause in remembrance of the “Bernie Bros”, who sat out the election to spite Clinton, instead of voting against Trump. They helped Trump too. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-bernie-go-to-hell-and-take-all-of-your-bros-with-you/809322/65 "2018-02-23T18:12:10Z")
But how many? Hundreds, thousands, tens of thousands? Do we actually _know_ anything? ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-bernie-go-to-hell-and-take-all-of-your-bros-with-you/809322/66 "2018-02-23T18:21:02Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > But how many? Hundreds, thousands, tens of thousands? Do we actually _know_ anything? Nope. It seems clear at this point that the divisions were played up by the Russian social media machinery. Without actual numbers to support it, the idea that “Sanders supporters refused _en masse_ to vote for Hillary out of spite” is merely propaganda intended to divide. I’m sad to see so many people buying into it on faith. . ---
**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-bernie-go-to-hell-and-take-all-of-your-bros-with-you/809322/67 "2018-02-23T18:52:24Z")
> [@foolsguinea](#): > > Do you really think the title of this OP is helping? > > Maybe it is. Maybe the Sanders campaign needed a cutesy dismissive term for the Clintonistas, so they could hate them openly while begging for their votes. That might have been smart, somehow. > > I don’t know what that name would be, and it sounds kind of counterproductive to me, but someone should tell Mother Clinton that if she’s going to wake up her Little Kittens and send them screaming, that at this point the entire galaxy has heard them and we’re developing an immunity. It’s cute that you allude to some idea that Hillary Clinton put people up to things while Sanders disavows the notion of Russians doing the same thing - despite the evidence. Since you and Bernie are obviously simpatico, tell him to stop helping Donald Trump. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-bernie-go-to-hell-and-take-all-of-your-bros-with-you/809322/68 "2018-02-23T19:03:24Z")
> [@Human\_Action](#): > > I think he’s referring to one of his staffers claiming to have gone to the Clinton campaign with information about Russian interference. So let me get this straight: The man who “did not know the[Russian Bots were promoting my campaign](https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/02/21/bernie_sanders_i_did_not_know_russian_bots_were_promoting_my_campaign_real_question_is_about_clinton.html)” is also claiming: > [@](#): > > "A guy who was on my staff … checked it out and he went to the Clinton campaign, and he said, ‘You know what? I think these guys are Russians,’” Sanders said. > > However, later his former campaign manager, Jeff Weaver, claimed that Sanders had no direct knowledge of Russian interference and instead based his assertion on a recent news article. A former Clinton campaign aide denied that they had ever been contacted about Russian interference by the Sanders camp. > > [Newsweek](http://www.newsweek.com/bernie-sanders-trump-hillary-clinton-816239) So they knew nothing. But had an aide tell the Clinton campaign about this nothing that they knew. And the Clinton campaign doesn’t remember anything about it. These are the kinds of inconsistencies that cause reasonable people to think that maybe someone is not being totally honest. And as for Jeff Weaver, he [already is a known liar](http://www.politifact.com/nevada/statements/2016/may/18/jeff-weaver/allegations-fraud-and-misconduct-nevada-democratic/) and Bernie or Busters still tout his demonstrative bullshit to promote the conspiracy theories that Nevada was a tragedy to justice and the Bernie way. But as long as Bernie can continue to point fingers at Hillary, that’s all his fan club needs to continue to feel their bullshit is justified. Well, I am a little more discerning. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-bernie-go-to-hell-and-take-all-of-your-bros-with-you/809322/69 "2018-02-23T19:12:50Z")
> [@andros](#): > > No. I missed no point. I’m making a completely different one. Wielding a stupid, childish epithet as a cudgel is not helpful, and makes you appear as blindly immature as if you had simply shouted the word “cuck” over and over again. You’re better than that. You are very capable of making your point, and passionately, without that nonsense. I’m better than continuing to trust Bernie Sanders in any way. As you can see from comments in this very thread others are not as discerning. And if calling them “bros” will somehow cause them to stomp their feet and say “that does it, Jill Stein forever,” I would submit that “someone called me a name” is shitty justification for a vote akin to a child holding their breath if they cannot have pudding. Also: This is The pit. I make my point this way because I am angry. I can definitely point out the dozens of things Bernie has done (or hasn’t) that helped Trump. I haven’t even brought up how he was [one of five people](https://ivn.us/2017/08/03/meet-5-lawmakers-voted-against-russia-sanctions-bill/) in both chambers of congress to vote against the Russian sanctions after being only one of four Senators to vote against the [Magnitsky Act](http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/senate/271455-senate-passes-russia-trade-bill). I parroted his lame excuses before for those before, but seeing how he stutters when his name came up from Mueller, it sure makes me wonder why i did. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-bernie-go-to-hell-and-take-all-of-your-bros-with-you/809322/70 "2018-02-23T19:13:52Z")
> [@JackieLikesVariety](#): > > maybe he used to be and no longer is? > > any way you put it, the 2016 election and especially the results has been very bad for the country and other people are losing it. why not this left ear guy? Power to the Left ear guy! ---
**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-bernie-go-to-hell-and-take-all-of-your-bros-with-you/809322/71 "2018-02-23T19:17:47Z")
> [@JackieLikesVariety](#): > > one thing we know for sure is that the Russian Bot Makers would prefer Bernie supporters and Hillary supporters\* not\* get along. Yeah. So maybe Bernie shouldn’t be calling out Clinton over bullshit. I was trying to sing “Kumbaya” as recently as a couple days ago. I’m done. I’ll chose the side that didn’t help and continue to help Trump. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-bernie-go-to-hell-and-take-all-of-your-bros-with-you/809322/72 "2018-02-23T19:20:26Z")
> [@Not\_Carlson](#): > > This is something that Sander’s critics should not forget. > He could have run as an independent in 2016. > Many people encouraged him to run as an independent against Hillary and Trump. > He chose to run as a Democrat and then chose to support Hillary and the Democratic party in the election precisely because he did not want to split the vote. > Once Hillary clinched the nomination, Sanders worked tirelessly to help her secure the vote, in spite of his dissatisfaction with her, because he knew Trump would be a disaster. > > As far as I can tell, his only concern is improving the sociopolitical environment of the USA so that it benefits the general population. The only person less naive than you was Bernie because even he was aware that running as an independent was going to relegate him to the dustbin of history. That’s why he ran as a Dem to begin with. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-bernie-go-to-hell-and-take-all-of-your-bros-with-you/809322/73 "2018-02-23T19:31:53Z")
> [@](#): > > …I was trying to sing “Kumbaya” as recently as a couple days ago. I’m done. I’ll chose the side that didn’t help and continue to help Trump. There are only two. You pull on this end of the rope, or the other, or you stand off to the side with your hands in your pockets and tell the rest of us how much smarter you are. We have about six months before crunch time, and we have to win. Win against gerrymandering, and voter suppression, and the vast herd of idiots willing to follow the alpha lemming right over the cliff. And we have to win decisively, thoroughly, and totally. Butt must be kicked. We could use your help, if you’ve nothing better to do. But, brother…this ain’t it. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-bernie-go-to-hell-and-take-all-of-your-bros-with-you/809322/74 "2018-02-23T19:33:39Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > We may as well also pause in remembrance of the “Bernie Bros”, who sat out the election to spite Clinton, instead of voting against Trump. They helped Trump too. > [@elucidator](#): > > But how many? Hundreds, thousands, tens of thousands? Do we actually _know_ anything? > [@andros](#): > > Nope. Wrong. > [@](#): > > According to the analysis of the 2016 Cooperative Congressional Election Survey, fewer than 80 percent of those who voted for Sanders, an independent, in the Democratic primary did the same for Clinton when she faced off against Trump a few months later. What’s more, 12 percent of those who backed Sanders actually cast a vote for Trump. > > [Newsweek](http://www.newsweek.com/bernie-sanders-trump-2016-election-654320) Now, I understand fully that this kind of bleed happens in every election, but [not to this magnitude](https://www.npr.org/2017/08/24/545812242/1-in-10-sanders-primary-voters-ended-up-supporting-trump-survey-finds). More importantly, Bernie himself assisted in this. He didn’t denounce the racist and misogyny of many of his supporters nearly often enough. His attacks on the “establishment” and the supposed “rigging” of the Primary - some of which were not based in reality - contributed to this. Him staying in the race six weeks to two months longer than he should have contributed to this and also gave the Russians that much more time to continue to stir that pot. And since then? He limped back away from the Democratic party. He [refused to endorse Ralph Northam](https://www.thedailybeast.com/bernie-sanders-sits-out-a-tight-race-in-virginia-after-his-candidate-falls-short) in Virginia when he beat bernie’s chosen candidate Tom Perriello which could have been disastrous. He made the aforementioned vote against Russian sanctions. And now he is pointing fingers at Hillary again. Bernie could have done a dozen things differently and Hillary would have been able to overcome everything else - the sexism, the media, the Russians, her own mistakes - if only the guy who wound up getting most of what he wanted in the Democratic platform had done maybe one less of the shitty things I outlined. But he didn’t. So fuck him. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-bernie-go-to-hell-and-take-all-of-your-bros-with-you/809322/75 "2018-02-23T19:37:50Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > There are only two. You pull on this end of the rope, or the other, or you stand off to the side with your hands in your pockets and tell the rest of us how much smarter you are. We have about six months before crunch time, and we have to win. Win against gerrymandering, and voter suppression, and the vast herd of idiots willing to follow the alpha lemming right over the cliff. And we have to win decisively, thoroughly, and totally. Butt must be kicked. > > We could use your help, if you’ve nothing better to do. But, brother…this ain’t it. If pointing out that the guy who has done so much to help Trump - with evidence of all of those things - is maybe someone we shouldn’t emulate if we want to beat Trump makes me the bad guy, too bad. Bernie helped Trump. Bernie is still helping Trump. If some people have their tongues still so far up Bernie’s sainted ass that they cannot see this, they are going to assist Trump themselves whether I point out loudly and correctly why I am done with him and them or not. So I may as well let off some steam. If we don’t need their votes, we win without them. If we do, we get what we deserve. Again. But I’ll be damned if I am gonna be quiet either way. Fuck him. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-bernie-go-to-hell-and-take-all-of-your-bros-with-you/809322/76 "2018-02-23T19:46:07Z")
> [@andros](#): > > What do you feel constitutes “appeal[ing] to the left wing and the far left?” Because I’m not seeing it. Are you saying that the democrats did not move to the left to try to accommodate the demands made by Bernie and his followers? The reason that you are not seeing it is because the democrats did not win any elections, so what you are seeing is the result of conservative policies. > [@](#): > > Cite, please? > . You remember 2016, when they did not turn out to support the democratic candidate? How about 2014, when they didn’t’ show up for the midterms, or even 2010, where they left Obama high and dry and allowed congress to be swept out from under them. They are not reliable voters. They will only vote for a candidate that promises them everything they want, and that’s not practical. ---
**Author:** ![Human\_Action](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@Human\_Action](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Human_Action)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-bernie-go-to-hell-and-take-all-of-your-bros-with-you/809322/77 "2018-02-23T19:47:54Z")
> [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](#): > > So let me get this straight: The man who “did not know the[Russian Bots were promoting my campaign](https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/02/21/bernie_sanders_i_did_not_know_russian_bots_were_promoting_my_campaign_real_question_is_about_clinton.html)” is also claiming:So they knew nothing. But had an aide tell the Clinton campaign about this nothing that they knew. And the Clinton campaign doesn’t remember anything about it. These are the kinds of inconsistencies that cause reasonable people to think that maybe someone is not being totally honest. > > And as for Jeff Weaver, he [already is a known liar](http://www.politifact.com/nevada/statements/2016/may/18/jeff-weaver/allegations-fraud-and-misconduct-nevada-democratic/) and Bernie or Busters still tout his demonstrative bullshit to promote the conspiracy theories that Nevada was a tragedy to justice and the Bernie way. He “had an aide” tell the Clinton campaign? That’s not what Sanders said. He “knew nothing”? That’s not what Sanders said, he said “in April and May, it appeared that there were lots of strange things happening, attacking Hillary Clinton.” > [@](#): > > But as long as Bernie can continue to point fingers at Hillary, that’s all his fan club needs to continue to feel their bullshit is justified. > > Well, I am a little more discerning. You’ll be right at home in the other fan club, the one where Sanders must be bashed at every opportunity to excuse Clinton’s loss. They love shitty arguments and innuendo, you’ll fit right in. Meanwhile, the sensible people are trying to build a Democratic wave for the next election cycle. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-bernie-go-to-hell-and-take-all-of-your-bros-with-you/809322/78 "2018-02-23T19:53:38Z")
> [@Human\_Action](#): > > He “had an aide” tell the Clinton campaign? That’s not what Sanders said. His exact fucking words on audio: > [@Bernie Sanders](#): > > A guy who was on my staff … checked it out and he went to the Clinton campaign, and he said, ‘You know what? I think these guys are Russians.’ Do I have to post this again? > [@](#): > > You’ll be right at home in the other fan club, the one where Sanders must be bashed at every opportunity to excuse Clinton’s loss. They love shitty arguments and innuendo, you’ll fit right in. Meanwhile, the sensible people are trying to build a Democratic wave for the next election cycle. Haha, you used Bernie and sensible in the same sentence. Sanders deserves to be bashed for a lot of reasons. But do stick up for your lying friend, comrade. ---
**Author:** ![Human\_Action](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@Human\_Action](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Human_Action)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-bernie-go-to-hell-and-take-all-of-your-bros-with-you/809322/79 "2018-02-23T20:00:46Z")
> [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](#): > > His exact fucking words on audio:Do I have to post this again? “…and **he went** to the Clinton campaign.” Not “I sent him to the Clinton campaign.” Now, maybe the guy didn’t really go the Clintons, we don’t know. But he didn’t say what you attributed to him. > [@](#): > > Haha, you used Bernie and sensible in the same sentence. Sanders deserves to be bashed for a lot of reasons. But do stick up for your lying friend, comrade. :rolleyes: Keep trying to divide the Democrats, the Russians sure would hate that. Grow up, you’re acting like a teenager after their first breakup. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-bernie-go-to-hell-and-take-all-of-your-bros-with-you/809322/80 "2018-02-23T21:39:13Z")
> [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](#): > > … > > But as long as Bernie can continue to point fingers at Hillary, that’s all his fan club needs to continue to feel their bullshit is justified. > > Well, I am a little more discerning. Same here. I have a fairly good Bullshit Detector. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-bernie-go-to-hell-and-take-all-of-your-bros-with-you/809322.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-bernie-go-to-hell-and-take-all-of-your-bros-with-you/809322.md?page=5)