# Hey! Bush likes gay people after all! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 26, 2004, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-bush-likes-gay-people-after-all/271275 "2004-10-26T18:31:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2004, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-bush-likes-gay-people-after-all/271275/41 "2004-10-27T00:05:34Z")
gobear’s right: [the fundies are pissed](http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-4576919,00.html?gusrc=ticker-103704): > [@](#): > > Some conservative organizations sharply disagreed with Bush and pressed him to seek a constitutional amendment that would ban both gay marriage and civil unions. > > "Civil unions are a government endorsement of homosexuality,’’ said Robert Knight, director of the Culture and Family Institute, an affiliate of Concerned Women For America. "But I don’t think President Bush has thought about it in that way. He seems to be striving for neutrality while defending marriage itself.’’ > > Knight said "counterfeits’’ of marriage, such as civil unions, "hurt the real thing.’’ > > The head of another group, the Campaign for California Families, said it, too, wants a sweeping constitutional amendment that bars civil unions and same-sex marriage. > > "Here’s the truth, civil unions are homosexual marriage by another name,’’ said Randy Thomasson, the group’s executive director. "Civil unions rob marriage of its uniqueness and award homosexuals all the rights of marriage available under state law.’’ > > "Bush needs to understand what’s going on and resist counterfeit marriages with all his might no matter what they’re called,’’ Thomasson said. ---
**Author:** ![t-keela](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a3d4f5/32.png) [@t-keela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/t-keela)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2004, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-bush-likes-gay-people-after-all/271275/42 "2004-10-27T00:25:05Z")
**Is this true? Really true?** :eek: I must admit I just kinda skimmed the thread so I haven’t really had a chance to read everyone’s comments. Well, hell that changes everything. Why didn’t he say this a long time ago. I think I’m gonna go ahead and vote for the guy now…this just makes everything else okay. I’ll be damned…just fuck me runnin why don’t ya. er…wait a minute now…guys I was just kiddin…wait a minute…goddamnit, :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2004, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-bush-likes-gay-people-after-all/271275/43 "2004-10-27T00:42:31Z")
I just got back from dental surgery, and am in pain, and am feeling extra venomous right now. SO, my reply to Pres. Bush is … Too little too late, and after 4 years of so-called family this and values that, Mr GWB you can fuck off you two faced lying bastard. You’ve been pushing your pseudo Christian blather for four years, pandering to the folks who want no equality for us and we’re supposed to believe you now? Lie down with dogs, get up with fleas. Again GWB go fuck yourself, you two faced lying bastard. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2004, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-bush-likes-gay-people-after-all/271275/44 "2004-10-27T01:10:32Z")
> [@](#): > > "Bush needs to understand what’s going on and resist counterfeit marriages with all his might no matter what they’re called,’’ Thomasson said. Hey, I had of those counterfeit marriages once. Someone passed it to me in a dark pub. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2004, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-bush-likes-gay-people-after-all/271275/45 "2004-10-27T01:15:41Z")
So does Bush’s newfound compassion affect his position on the _federal_ rights of gay folks. Does he believe that state sanctioned “civil unions” should be afforded the same federal benefits as “marriages?” ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2004, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-bush-likes-gay-people-after-all/271275/46 "2004-10-27T01:35:33Z")
> [@](#): > > "Civil unions rob marriage of its uniqueness and award homosexuals all the rights of marriage available under state law.’’ > > "Bush needs to understand what’s going on and resist counterfeit marriages with all his might no matter what they’re called,’’ Thomasson said. Is this guy for real? Are you sure this isn’t taken from SNL? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2004, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-bush-likes-gay-people-after-all/271275/47 "2004-10-27T01:42:43Z")
> [@](#): > > Bush likes gay people after all! And yet, not all gay people like Bush. But **half** like Bush a whole lot… ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2004, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-bush-likes-gay-people-after-all/271275/48 "2004-10-27T02:29:48Z")
> [@iampunha](#): > > Rick Santorum was almost beside himself in masturbatory glee. **punha** , you know I love you to pieces, but putting the words “Rick Santorum” and “Masturbatory glee” in the same sentence is just fucking EVIL. Unless you’re talking about the OTHER kind of “Santorum.” Then it’s gross, but kinda funny. Anyways, my reaction? Goddamn lying fundy weasel!!! A goddamn WEEK before the election? You fucking syphillitic troll sucking snail shit snorting brain-damaged fuck of a shithead! It’s not just the gay marriage thing-the fact that he so completely changed his position, one WEEK before the goddamn election, uh, I believe the Republicans have a word for that…starts with…“F?” I can think of another word, too…it starts with an “H.” And one that starts with “M.” ---
**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2004, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-bush-likes-gay-people-after-all/271275/49 "2004-10-27T03:01:51Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > **punha** , you know I love you to pieces, but putting the words “Rick Santorum” and “Masturbatory glee” in the same sentence is just fucking EVIL. Unless you’re talking about the OTHER kind of “Santorum.” Then it’s gross, but kinda funny. See, I knew you’d react that way, but how often does a guy (who doesn’t write slasher fic) get to write the phrase “masturbatory glee”? Hmm?😃 ---
**Author:** ![t-keela](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a3d4f5/32.png) [@t-keela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/t-keela)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2004, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-bush-likes-gay-people-after-all/271275/50 "2004-10-27T04:11:37Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Anyways, my reaction? > > You fucking syphillitic troll sucking snail shit snorting brain-damaged fuck of a shithead! I don’t suppose DNFTT really applies here does it? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![DMark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@DMark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMark)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2004, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-bush-likes-gay-people-after-all/271275/51 "2004-10-27T05:40:05Z")
Wonder how the Log Cabin Republicans (the Gay and Lesbian Republican organization) are going to react, since they have already withdrawn their support of Dubya this time. Sounds to me like the Republicans are reading some different, less positive polls and are trying desperately to get a few more votes in the Gay ghettos. ---
**Author:** ![Blalron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/35a633/32.png) [@Blalron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blalron)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2004, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-bush-likes-gay-people-after-all/271275/52 "2004-10-27T06:16:47Z")
Looks like Bush has flip flopped. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![MisterThyristor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecccb3/32.png) [@MisterThyristor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MisterThyristor)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2004, 9:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-bush-likes-gay-people-after-all/271275/53 "2004-10-27T09:50:49Z")
I don’t think this hurts GWB with his fundamentalist base at all. The conservative/fundamentalist voter guides are already out with him listed as being in favor of a federal amendment. That’s what they will be carrying to the polls. A lot of them don’t even read newpapers, or think that newspapers are that “liberal media”, and won’t believe a word they read anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2004, 10:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-bush-likes-gay-people-after-all/271275/54 "2004-10-27T10:44:12Z")
Besides, what will they do, vote for Kerry? ---
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2004, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-bush-likes-gay-people-after-all/271275/55 "2004-10-27T13:47:53Z")
> [@iampunha](#): > > See, I knew you’d react that way, but how often does a guy (who doesn’t write slasher fic) get to write the phrase “masturbatory glee”? Hmm?😃 Slashfic, not **slasher** fic. I suppose Slasher fic would be the love life of Jack the Ripper. It’s called slash fic because it is written for “masturbatory glee” regarding the characters involved, which are often characters from a popular work given unusual libidos, and the stories are identified by the inserting of a virgule\* between the character names. For example, LOTR Frodo/Sam slashfic is almost a natural – canonical Tolkien goes halfway there. - Slashfic rather than Virgulefic, because nobody wants to read the Aeneid! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2004, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-bush-likes-gay-people-after-all/271275/56 "2004-10-27T16:56:44Z")
> [@gobear](#): > > Since when am I **Miller** ’s dummy? I’m definitely a dummy in the common sense, but not so much in the ventriloquism line. You’re just thinking about where he might put his hand… ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2004, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-bush-likes-gay-people-after-all/271275/57 "2004-10-27T19:36:31Z")
> [@Liberal](#): > > Besides, what will they do, vote for Kerry? No, but “not voting” is a possibility. In a race as close as this one, losing just 1% of the planned evangelical turnout could be decisive. ---
**Author:** ![Slacker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6bbea6/32.png) [@Slacker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slacker)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2004, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-bush-likes-gay-people-after-all/271275/58 "2004-10-27T20:13:58Z")
The left should have went after Bush a little harder on this stuff, IMO. If people are going to vote for someone because he’s such a great Christian, they need to know what he believes. He doesn’t know if homosexuals are born that way or if it’s a choice, he’s against abortion except in cases of rape and incest, and he thinks Christians and Muslims worship the same God. Didn’t he also backpedal after he said that the only way through heaven is Jesus Christ? People who disagree with him on all these things are still voting for him because he’s a good Christian. It boggles the mind. ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2004, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-bush-likes-gay-people-after-all/271275/59 "2004-10-27T20:21:26Z")
> [@Slacker](#): > > People who disagree with him on all these things are still voting for him because he’s a good Christian. It boggles the mind. To get the support of “good Christians” all you have to do is dole out federal money to churches, whip up hate at all the right groups, and mention Jesus a lot. Bush succeeds admirably in all these areas. ---
**Author:** ![Slacker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6bbea6/32.png) [@Slacker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slacker)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2004, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-bush-likes-gay-people-after-all/271275/60 "2004-10-27T20:50:08Z")
> [@gobear](#): > > To get the support of “good Christians” all you have to do is dole out federal money to churches, whip up hate at all the right groups, and mention Jesus a lot. Bush succeeds admirably in all these areas. Hey, don’t paint us with too broad a brush dude, there are a [few](http://go.sojo.net/campaign/takebackourfaith) of us that see though him. 😉 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-bush-likes-gay-people-after-all/271275.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-bush-likes-gay-people-after-all/271275.md?page=4)