# Hey!  Bush likes gay people after all!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-bush-likes-gay-people-after-all/271275>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 26, 2004, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-bush-likes-gay-people-after-all/271275 "2004-10-26T18:31:34Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 8\
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**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2004, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-bush-likes-gay-people-after-all/271275/61 "2004-10-27T21:02:08Z")

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> [@Slacker](#):
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> Hey, don’t paint us with too broad a brush dude, there are a [few](http://go.sojo.net/campaign/takebackourfaith) of us that see though him. 😉

Note the quotation marks, indicating that I’m using the term ironically. The “good Christians” have nothng to do with Christ. I doubt he’d be welcome at their churches.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2004, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-bush-likes-gay-people-after-all/271275/62 "2004-10-27T21:06:26Z")

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> [@gobear](#):
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> Note the quotation marks, indicating that I’m using the term ironically. The “good Christians” have nothng to do with Christ. I doubt he’d be welcome at their churches.

Poor? Check.  
Unkempt? Check.  
Annoyingly insightful? Check.  
Overly generous? Check.  
Too lovey-dovey? Check.  
Hangs out with the wrong crowd? Check.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2004, 6:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-bush-likes-gay-people-after-all/271275/63 "2004-10-28T06:25:40Z")

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> [@Slacker](#):
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> The left should have went after Bush a little harder on this stuff, IMO. If people are going to vote for someone because he’s such a great Christian, they need to know what he believes. He doesn’t know if homosexuals are born that way or if it’s a choice, he’s against abortion except in cases of rape and incest, **and he thinks Christians and Muslims worship the same God**. Didn’t he also backpedal after he said that the only way through heaven is Jesus Christ?

Uh… they _do_.

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**Author:** ![Punoqllads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@Punoqllads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Punoqllads)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2004, 8:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-bush-likes-gay-people-after-all/271275/64 "2004-10-28T08:32:56Z")

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> [@Really Not All That Bright](#):
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> > [@Slacker](#):
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> > **and [GWB] thinks Christians and Muslims worship the same God**
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> Uh… they _do_.

Right. But the wacko-fringe of the evangelical-right (yes, there are non-wacko evangelicals…) put Allah and Satan in the same bucket. Remember, these are the people who are gung-ho about supporting Israel solely for the purpose of rebuilding it into a kingdom. The faster that happens, the sooner the Anti-christ can rule it for seven years, and then Jesus comes back and puts the Holy Smackdown on all those heathens.

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**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2004, 11:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-bush-likes-gay-people-after-all/271275/65 "2004-10-28T11:27:00Z")

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> [@Really Not All That Bright](#):
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> Uh… they _do_.

See, statements like that on a fundie Web forum will only elicit hate-filled screeds like, “NO, they aren’t! The Muzzies worship an Arab moon god, but we worship Jesus!” and then you’ll get banned for “blasphemy.”

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**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2004, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-bush-likes-gay-people-after-all/271275/66 "2004-10-28T14:02:02Z")

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> [@gobear](#):
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> See, statements like that on a fundie Web forum will only elicit hate-filled screeds like, “NO, they aren’t! The Muzzies worship an Arab moon god, but we worship Jesus!” and then you’ll get banned for “blasphemy.”

Check. We had a long and detailed argument on this on Christian Forums (which has more breadth than the crazy-fundie forums), with some evangelicals getting into details about Allah the moon god and others (including me) pointing out that the Antiochan Orthodox have been referring to God the Holy Trinity by His title in Arabic since about 650 AD.

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2004, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-bush-likes-gay-people-after-all/271275/67 "2004-10-28T14:08:21Z")

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IRL conversations, I sometimes get to mention that Christians, Jews, and Muslims all worship the God of Abraham.

And then the fun starts.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2004, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-bush-likes-gay-people-after-all/271275/68 "2004-10-29T03:08:11Z")

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> [@Polycarp](#):
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> Check. We had a long and detailed argument on this on Christian Forums (which has more breadth than the crazy-fundie forums), with some evangelicals getting into details about Allah the moon god and others (including me) pointing out that the Antiochan Orthodox have been referring to God the Holy Trinity by His title in Arabic since about 650 AD.

Yeah, but most of these groups would say that the Antioch and such aren’t REAL Christians. (They’d lump them in with the Catholics/Eastern Orthodox)

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