# Hey, Cecil - your turn in the barrel.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-cecil-your-turn-in-the-barrel/474180>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 24, 2008, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-cecil-your-turn-in-the-barrel/474180 "2008-11-24T02:37:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-cecil-your-turn-in-the-barrel/474180/21 "2008-11-24T04:03:00Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> Bush does not deserve the bullshit being slung about him.

Thread over.

C’mon, people, nothin to see here. Don’t torment the retard.

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**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-cecil-your-turn-in-the-barrel/474180/22 "2008-11-24T04:06:49Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> I posted what I did on purpose to see what the reaction would be. Same thing that Cecil said, I just turned it around and made it about Obama. And naturally, I got bitched out about it, but nobody sees anything wrong with his comment about Bush.

Cecil was judging Bush on 7 3/4 years of failed ideas/policies. _You’re_ judging Obama on a _negative_ 1/4 year of …well, nothing. He ain’t the President. Yet.

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**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-cecil-your-turn-in-the-barrel/474180/23 "2008-11-24T04:08:45Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> No. I pitted him for making a stupid, snarky remark about the sitting President of the United States. Bush does not deserve the bullshit being slung about him. He hasn’t been a great President, but he sure as hell has been a better President than what’s said about him. And if Cecil is really the smartest person in the world, he should have known better than to be that rude.
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> And so should the rest of you. I posted what I did on purpose to see what the reaction would be. Same thing that Cecil said, I just turned it around and made it about Obama. And naturally, I got bitched out about it, but nobody sees anything wrong with his comment about Bush.

Bush has earned a lot more disrespect than is sent his way. Electing Bush turns out to have been the worst thing to happen to this country since the Great Depression. I don’t expect his loving and loyal followers to ever realize that, but the rest of the country does already.

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**Author:** ![The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tao_s_Revenge)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-cecil-your-turn-in-the-barrel/474180/24 "2008-11-24T04:09:58Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> And so should the rest of you. I posted what I did on purpose to see what the reaction would be. Same thing that Cecil said, I just turned it around and made it about Obama. And naturally, I got bitched out about it, but nobody sees anything wrong with his comment about Bush.

Because Obama has had 0 years to be president so far, where as Bush has had 8 years, and last I checked he ran the country into a flaming wreck with his stupid war, war crimes (torture), fear mongering, and incredibly brain dead tax policy.

Bush is a fool and a monster. He deserves a war crimes tribunal.

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**Author:** ![Red\_Barchetta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/da6949/32.png) [@Red\_Barchetta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Barchetta)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-cecil-your-turn-in-the-barrel/474180/25 "2008-11-24T04:14:29Z")

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> [@Enfant Terrible](#):
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> I’m afraid you’re letting your partisanship show, my friend.
> 
> Name one other president who managed to plunge the country into a recession, single-handed, before taking office.

Single handily, eh?

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**Author:** ![The\_Understander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3da27b/32.png) [@The\_Understander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Understander)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-cecil-your-turn-in-the-barrel/474180/26 "2008-11-24T04:20:43Z")

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> [@Red\_Barchetta](#):
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> Single handily, eh?

He used the other hand to sign the bill making Islam the official religion of the United States. Darn unimpeachable signing statements.

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**Author:** ![Terrifel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@Terrifel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terrifel)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-cecil-your-turn-in-the-barrel/474180/27 "2008-11-24T04:22:20Z")

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> [@Enfant Terrible](#):
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> I’m afraid you’re letting your partisanship show, my friend.
> 
> Name one other president who managed to plunge the country into a recession, single-handed, before taking office.

Sigh… You Obashers really need to get some new material. There’s absolutely no reason to believe that anyone else taking office would have prevented Obama from single-handedly plunging the country into a recession. But just because he was elected President, you want to blame him for everything he causes.  
HISTORICAL MARKER

On this site  
24 Nov 2008  
SDMB member  
**Terrifel**  
coined the term  
“Obasher.”

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**Author:** ![The\_Understander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3da27b/32.png) [@The\_Understander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Understander)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-cecil-your-turn-in-the-barrel/474180/28 "2008-11-24T04:28:21Z")

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> [@Terrifel](#):
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> Sigh… You Obashers really need to get some new material. There’s absolutely no reason to believe that anyone else taking office would have prevented Obama from single-handedly plunging the country into a recession. But just because he was elected President, you want to blame him for everything he causes.  
> HISTORICAL MARKER
> 
> On this site  
> 24 Nov 2008  
> SDMB member  
> **Terrifel**  
> coined the term  
> “Obasher.”

New material?

We’ve been at this for… what… three weeks?

_takes photo of historical marker for posterity_

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**Author:** ![The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tao_s_Revenge)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-cecil-your-turn-in-the-barrel/474180/29 "2008-11-24T04:32:15Z")

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[QUOTE=Terrifel]

HISTORICAL MARKER

On this site  
24 Nov 2008  
SDMB member  
**Terrifel**  
coined the term  
“Obasher.”  
[/QUOTE]

I had to google it to see if you were the first. Apparently Obasher is a last name.

There’s prolly whole families of Obashers. Raising kids. Little Suzy Obasher got an A on her science project.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-cecil-your-turn-in-the-barrel/474180/30 "2008-11-24T04:44:45Z")

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Well?

What was the science project about?

Probably something more intelligent than the OP above, at any rate.

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**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-cecil-your-turn-in-the-barrel/474180/31 "2008-11-24T04:50:56Z")

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> [@Enfant Terrible](#):
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> Name one other president who managed to plunge the country into a recession, single-handed, before taking office.

I’m laughing at how many people are being whooshed by this. Good one!

[QUOTE=Clothahump]  
I pitted him for making a stupid, snarky remark about the sitting President of the United States.  
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I’m also laughing at what a hypocrite Clothahump is going to be during the next 8 years.

Mustn’t make stupid, snarky remarks about the sitting President of the United States indeed. We’ll see how long you adhere to that one.

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**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-cecil-your-turn-in-the-barrel/474180/32 "2008-11-24T05:17:24Z")

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> [@Equipoise](#):
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> I’m also laughing at what a hypocrite Clothahump is going to be during the next 8 years.
> 
> Mustn’t make stupid, snarky remarks about the sitting President of the United States indeed. We’ll see how long you adhere to that one.

Excellent point. Bookmarking this thread, **Humpy**.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-cecil-your-turn-in-the-barrel/474180/33 "2008-11-24T05:29:21Z")

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> [@Frostillicus](#):
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> Cecil vs. Clothahump. Kinda like the NY Giants vs. Detroit.

This is unfair to Detroit. They’re probably not going to end up with negative points.

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**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-cecil-your-turn-in-the-barrel/474180/34 "2008-11-24T05:31:31Z")

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> [@Frostillicus](#):
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> Cecil vs. Clothahump. Kinda like the NY Giants vs. Detroit.

Gah, more like the NY Giants vs. Peoria Jr. High.

ETA, no offense to Peoria’s Jr. High Schools.

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**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-cecil-your-turn-in-the-barrel/474180/35 "2008-11-24T05:37:55Z")

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> [@lissener](#):
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> Excellent point. Bookmarking this thread, **Humpy**.

Truly no need y’all. His first and only necessary response will be to say that he’s only giving as good as \< cue swelling, patriotic music \> President Bush \< one hand over heart and the other saluting \> has gotten.

But if you expect anything more out him than that initial drive by, we’ll be shit outta luck. 'Cause the **hump** don’t _play_ man.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-cecil-your-turn-in-the-barrel/474180/36 "2008-11-24T05:38:11Z")

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I quite take the point about the dignity due a “sitting President”, and hasten to remind that I have faithfully adhered to that principle throughout this administration. My expressed opinions are considerably more temperate as a result, as I am chastened by the dignity of the office to “tone down” until this coming January, when such limitations will no longer apply.

Suffice to say I am quite cross with him, and have some rather sharp things to say. The sort of things one simply doesn’t say about a “sitting President”.

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**Author:** ![The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tao_s_Revenge)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-cecil-your-turn-in-the-barrel/474180/37 "2008-11-24T06:14:03Z")

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> [@Equipoise](#):
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> Gah, more like the NY Giants vs. Peoria Jr. High.
> 
> ETA, no offense to Peoria’s Jr. High Schools.

And Suzy Obasher and her brother go to Peoria juniour high too!

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**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 8:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-cecil-your-turn-in-the-barrel/474180/38 "2008-11-24T08:05:29Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> And so should the rest of you. I posted what I did on purpose to see what the reaction would be.

Ah, I see. You endeavoured to use trolling to make your point. I think I may just see where the flaw in that lies.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-cecil-your-turn-in-the-barrel/474180/39 "2008-11-24T12:59:58Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> No. I pitted him for making a stupid, snarky remark about the sitting President of the United States. Bush does not deserve the bullshit being slung about him. He hasn’t been a great President, but he sure as hell has been a better President than what’s said about him. And if Cecil is really the smartest person in the world, he should have known better than to be that rude.
> 
> And so should the rest of you. I posted what I did on purpose to see what the reaction would be. Same thing that Cecil said, I just turned it around and made it about Obama. And naturally, I got bitched out about it, but nobody sees anything wrong with his comment about Bush.

Have we lived through the same 8 years? The only President I can think of that was as unsuccessful as Bush was Carter and we bounced him on his ass after only 4. No President since Buchanan has handled national crisis worse than Bush in my view. When the CIC is a dismal failure he does lose the respect of the nation. He is no God-king he is a failure that has seriously damaged the reputation of this great country around the world and at home.

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**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-cecil-your-turn-in-the-barrel/474180/40 "2008-11-24T13:18:53Z")

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One of the many differences between left wingers and right wingers is that left wingers are very quick to criticize their soon-to-be President. It’s amazing some of the howling that’s going on about his Cabinet picks! At least, their criticisms (those from actual left wingers and not right wing rabble rousers posing as left wingers) stems from a desire for things to be better and not loonball nutso crap like his birth certificate or antichrist hallucinations. Normal Liberals and sane Republicans are generally taking a wait-and-see attitude even if they have some qualms (like me, I’m very unhappy with the thought of Eric Holder as AG, and I don’t like Hillary Clinton at all, but I’ll give them a chance).

Sane Republicans can see Bush’s shortcomings and flaws and mistakes, that’s why a lot of them voted for Obama or didn’t vote at all because they saw what a frightening ditzbat Palin was. Right wingers would poke their eyes out with red hot pokers before they’d admit to any major Bush mistake or that Palin would make Bush look like Ghandi.

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