# Hey, Cecil - your turn in the barrel. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 24, 2008, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-cecil-your-turn-in-the-barrel/474180 "2008-11-24T02:37:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-cecil-your-turn-in-the-barrel/474180/41 "2008-11-24T14:55:52Z")
I _wish_ I could have been responsible for us being stuck with Obama for the next four years, but I can’t vote. I hope to be able to in time for 2012. > [@Equipoise](#): > > Right wingers would poke their eyes out with red hot pokers before they’d admit to any major Bush mistake or that Palin would make Bush look like Ghandi. While I don’t think Palin would have been a very good President, you’re committing the same offense here that **Clothahump** did- writing off a (hypothetical, in this case) presidency before it actually occurs. ---
**Author:** ![Giles](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giles/32/60_2.png) [@Giles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giles)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-cecil-your-turn-in-the-barrel/474180/42 "2008-11-24T15:10:35Z")
> [@Enfant Terrible](#): > > I’m afraid you’re letting your partisanship show, my friend. > > Name one other president who managed to plunge the country into a recession, single-handed, before taking office. Didn’t Franklin Roosevelt do that, three years before taking office? (And while giving a fireside chat on TV, too, according to Senator (and VP-elect) Biden.) ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-cecil-your-turn-in-the-barrel/474180/43 "2008-11-24T15:20:07Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > While I don’t think Palin would have been a very good President, you’re committing the same offense here that **Clothahump** did- writing off a (hypothetical, in this case) presidency before it actually occurs. Yes, but we know a lot about Obama and Palin. Obama is at worst inexperienced with some overzealous fans. Palin is a lying, corrupt scary fundamentalist with frightening, racist followers. Nobody who knows anything can equate Obama and Palin. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@Captain\_Carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Carrot)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-cecil-your-turn-in-the-barrel/474180/44 "2008-11-24T15:33:28Z")
> [@Equipoise](#): > > Nobody who knows anything can equate Obama and Palin. Lots of people who don’t know anything do that, though. ---
**Author:** ![Ponder\_Stibbons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponder_stibbons/32/343_2.png) [@Ponder\_Stibbons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponder_Stibbons)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-cecil-your-turn-in-the-barrel/474180/45 "2008-11-24T15:51:46Z")
> [@Squink](#): > > Yeah, color me puzzled. I always figured Cecil for a Nader man. Way to lower the Barr. :mad: 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-cecil-your-turn-in-the-barrel/474180/46 "2008-11-24T16:54:11Z")
arcane\_eye and Clothahump are indeed ninnies, but Cecil goes a bit overboard when he writes: > [@](#): > > The logic of the absolutist position is that at any time prior to birth — presumably even five minutes before — the life of the unborn child may be ended without a pang. The notion seems primitive, like something out of the Old Testament. No wonder abortion opponents go nuts. I’m comfortable with full-term abortion rights simply because I’ve never heard of a purely elective “five minutes shy” abortion, and I’m disinclined to imagine up a boogeyman or -woman who would perform one. In fact, the whole “partial-birth abortion” argument is an exercise in propaganda until and unless someone can present a case where it actually happened without a massively compelling medical reason. My concern is that some clueless law-enforcement agent is going to forcibly insert himself into a medical situation that is already difficult enough just so people not involved can feel that wickedness is being punished. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-cecil-your-turn-in-the-barrel/474180/47 "2008-11-24T18:33:45Z")
Our Stupidest Poster. There are many aspirants, but there can be only One. ---
**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-cecil-your-turn-in-the-barrel/474180/48 "2008-11-24T21:06:34Z")
> [@Enfant Terrible](#): > > I’m afraid you’re letting your partisanship show, my friend. > > Name one other president who managed to plunge the country into a recession, single-handed, before taking office. This is quite possibly the stupidest thing ever posted on the internet. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-cecil-your-turn-in-the-barrel/474180/49 "2008-11-24T21:18:49Z")
> [@zoid](#): > > This is quite possibly the stupidest thing ever posted on the internet. Except it was a joke. ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-cecil-your-turn-in-the-barrel/474180/50 "2008-11-24T21:31:41Z")
> [@zoid](#): > > This is quite possibly the stupidest thing ever posted on the internet. Now, there’s some unintentional irony for ya. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![sailor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a587f6/32.png) [@sailor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sailor)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-cecil-your-turn-in-the-barrel/474180/51 "2008-11-24T23:00:29Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > Bush does not deserve the bullshit being slung about him. Bush deserves a trial at the Hague and the people who voted for him deserve a kick in the balls. ---
**Author:** ![photopat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e95f7d/32.png) [@photopat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/photopat)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-cecil-your-turn-in-the-barrel/474180/52 "2008-11-24T23:12:16Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > Bush does not deserve the bullshit being slung about him. Actually I think _this_ is the stupidest thing on the internet. Well, okay, maybe second to Time Cube. ---
**Author:** ![Olentzero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90ced4/32.png) [@Olentzero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Olentzero)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-cecil-your-turn-in-the-barrel/474180/53 "2008-11-24T23:20:41Z")
> [@Giles](#): > > Didn’t Franklin Roosevelt do that, three years before taking office? (And while giving a fireside chat on TV, too, according to Senator (and VP-elect) Biden.) FDR? Barack Obama? _Pikers_. Abraham Lincoln plunged the country into _war_ before he took office. ---
**Author:** ![Omegaman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e480ec/32.png) [@Omegaman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omegaman)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-cecil-your-turn-in-the-barrel/474180/54 "2008-11-24T23:53:35Z")
> [@photopat](#): > > Actually I think _this_ is the stupidest thing on the internet. Well, okay, maybe second to Time Cube. And now I’m one of the suckers. Google once had 89,000,000 links to Time Cube site. Click here to view a mass of links to Time Cube site. * * * ---
**Author:** ![neutron\_star](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/51bf81/32.png) [@neutron\_star](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/neutron_star)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-cecil-your-turn-in-the-barrel/474180/55 "2008-11-24T23:57:58Z")
> [@Terrifel](#): > > Sigh… You Obashers really need to get some new material. There’s absolutely no reason to believe that anyone else taking office would have prevented Obama from single-handedly plunging the country into a recession. But just because he was elected President, you want to blame him for everything he causes. > [@Red\_Barchetta](#): > > Single handily, eh? You dumb. > [@zoid](#): > > This is quite possibly the stupidest thing ever posted on the internet. You real dumb. ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2008, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-cecil-your-turn-in-the-barrel/474180/56 "2008-11-25T01:16:29Z")
> [@samclem](#): > > Cecil was judging Bush on 7 3/4 years of failed ideas/policies. Sam, that statement is incorrect and you know it. Why do you and the rest of the libs insist on squawking it over and over and over like parrots on crack? ---
**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2008, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-cecil-your-turn-in-the-barrel/474180/57 "2008-11-25T01:47:59Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > Sam, that statement is incorrect and you know it. Why do you and the rest of the libs insist on squawking it over and over and over like parrots on crack? Why would I post that statement if I knew it to be incorrect? Seriously. I don’t post things for the fun of it or to troll the board. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2008, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-cecil-your-turn-in-the-barrel/474180/58 "2008-11-25T01:56:54Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > Sam, that statement is incorrect and you know it. Why do you and the rest of the libs insist on squawking it over and over and over like parrots on crack? So what ideas/policies of Bush/Cheney were good/successful? ---
**Author:** ![brownie55](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f14d63/32.png) [@brownie55](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brownie55)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2008, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-cecil-your-turn-in-the-barrel/474180/59 "2008-11-25T01:58:21Z")
> [@samclem](#): > > Why would I post that statement if I knew it to be incorrect? Seriously. I don’t post things for the fun of it or to troll the board. He’s right, it was 7 5/6 years at the time of Cecil’s writing. ---
**Author:** ![Camus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ba8739/32.png) [@Camus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Camus)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2008, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-cecil-your-turn-in-the-barrel/474180/60 "2008-11-25T03:03:47Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > So what ideas/policies of Bush/Cheney were good/successful? He did promise to increase humanitarian assistance to African countries for AIDS and malaria and came through. Even if some of the AIDS programs features abstinence-only education, the funds as a whole have gone to a good cause. As for being successful, any such definition involving a fight against sexually transmitted disease apart from HPV is relative. But as for good ideas or policies, that’s probably it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-cecil-your-turn-in-the-barrel/474180.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hey-cecil-your-turn-in-the-barrel/474180.md?page=4)